RAY AGAINST THE MACHINE

Not a fan of cheap trick on record . However, I went to see them at the Islington academy ( iirc) in the '90s as my mates are big fans of theirs . I ended up seeing them on a few more occasions . Great live band . 

19 minutes ago, itu said:

 

 

Dyson's vacuums use all their electrical power to make an incredible amount of noise. No suction power at all. I managed to sell the top of the line unit to a colleague. She does not talk to me anymore.

😂😂I'm really sorry , but I think this is the winning post in this thread 

Facebook , gilette, FA, Premier league, , England football team, uefa, fifa, BBC , itv, channel 4, Netflix ,Sky, guardian , daily mail, the Sun ..just stop oill, extinction rebellion . Woke Disney +, woka cola , the Green Party , the Labour Party , the Conservative Party .snp , Liberal Democrats 
 

As for BT , they're infinity set top box was pants when I was with them . Being told my wardrobe was the problem with their crap signals proves how rubbish they were . When I moved home , they sent a letter threatening me with debt collectors to my post office temporary address for £38 . Thing is I settled up when I moved , but their administration system said otherwise .Also, they were the last utility company to get disconnected when I moved . Truly awful company . 
 

I could put Unilever , procter and gamble and edf also . However, as procter and gamble and Unilever have so many household staple items , it would be nigh on impossible to avoid completely . As for Edf , they are one of the big energy companies that are going nowhere and smaller companies can still be swallowed up , amalgamated or dissolved etc. If edf stopped harassing me for smart meters they wouldn't be a problem .

Apple for example should be on my list , but I still use their electronics . 

I was thinking of logos today, when I saw this . 
I honestly can't make out the names of some of these bands . I saw a flyer in the London Astoria going back a few years promoting a death metal gig . Death may well have been on the bill, but really the standard is poor . I'm sure your logo will be much better ..

As a semi amateur GarageBand user, I hope you don't mind me chipping in .: 

I will end up getting Logic Pro at some stage , as it's seen as the natural progression etc. I seem to have a phobia about certain audio interfaces . By that I mean , that  having downloaded ableton live lite , and paying for Reason many moons ago, lacking confidence as I do , I still go straight to GarageBand .  
 

Looking at various sites about recording , a lot of people seem to rave about ablleton . I purchased a launchpad mini a few years back and I use that with launchpad on my iPad now and again . As mentioned the launchpad  is an ideal companion with ableton live . 
I really should do more with it . The launchpad is more of a drag and drop from a menu of clips and samples etc. I jjust need to spend more time to record my own clips into it , and I'd say I'd be happy enough as an ableton live user. 
 

Logic is now on iPad , but if you've got it on your iMac etc then paying for it again is not good imho.  
 

Haven't used reaper, but so many use it happily on here ..

On 16/02/2024 at 18:20, sammybee said:

The RD-6 is a fun little box, very immediately gratifying and slightly different from the ubiquitous TR-909/808 sounds - you'll have a blast with it!

 

The JD4000 is an interesting little thing - let us know how you get on with it (I'm very tempted to get one of these)

My goodies arrived yesterday afternoon . I briefly checked them over . I have a fair bit to lean with the drum machine , but I do like it .

The clap 👏from the boss dr 110? Sounds great on it . 

Regarding the jd -4000..that took a fair bit longer to setup. As it's about half the size of my hand, compromises were obviously made .

One headphone socket which is the output is okay. However onky one usb c socket is to me a pita . 🤐
I have  however got it going this morning . As I am semi amateur at recording, ( I use GarageBand ) , it initially wouldn't work at all.

I do have Reason 12 , which has a midi rack on there which recognises it instantly .  It may give my backside a kick ,and encourage me to,use Reason instead of GarageBand . Having said that , I find that if I have both applications open the I can infact record on GarageBand if I want to continue doing so .  One other thing regarding connections : it does recognise my Artruria key step:so that helps .  Regarding the audio output from the jd -4000 I expected it to be louder , but that may be because it's early stages using it.

It is not a dawlless instrument / toy. It takes getting used to due o limitations , but sounds good .

Hooe that helps 

Almost forgot to add , you may have to download a sysex application to get it working . 

3 hours ago, Lfalex v1.1 said:

Urgh! 

These things are as bad as basses!

The Roland is like a gateway drug;

 

"I wish I could control the envelope of the sounds more (at all!)"

 

Enter: Synth Gas.

Candidates: Novation Bass Station 2, Arturia MiniFreak, and my current fave; The ASM Hydrasynth Explorer...

Ah, sounds like you're being sucked in also ! 😂 The moog Grandmother was my gateway drug ..

I do know of these models you listed . I haven't any of those , but the Hydrasynth looks fantastic from what I've seen .

In my defence , I just noodle and record efforts on soundcloud with the intention of improving etc. and have stopped the band malarkey years ago. 

I don't know your situation though , whether you gig in a band or not .  If you are still a regular bass player in a band , then you may not need much more . If on the other hand you are like me then , yeah ..go ahead within your budget.

I'm trying very hard to limit the stuff I really need ( want 😬) , and having started off with lower cost moogs I just pulled the trigger on a £45 Behringher polysynth which hopefully will be my lot for some time . 

You have a nice tidy setup. I'm getting peed off with the amount of spaghetti wires etc . Something to bare n mind .

@Bigredx should be along soon ..🙂

Okay ...

Due to plumber bills and times being extremely hard etc , I've pulled the trigger on..Behringer RD-6 + jd4000micro .

Total outlay including Saturday delivery from Gear 4 music £ 139.99 

Other reasons : this drum machine is more compact and gives me mor3 space on my cramped desk . Plus when Behringher releaee a Linn Drum knockoff , I'll get that further down the line . 😬

1 hour ago, Earbrass said:

Soma are certainly one of the more interesting manufacturers out there. I recently sold a Lyra-8 after I'd owned it a little over a year. Built like a tank. I used it to record weird space noises and textures for use in the space-rock band I play keys for, and it's great for that, but not really for much else. I have many hours of recordings from it that I can sample from to use live, and plenty of weird plug-ins so I can make many different versions of any given bit of the recordings, so it seemed like time to move it on.

Good points here . Glad you got to make good use of it . Yes " interesting " is the way many of us woukd view soma instruments 😹

When I first saw the tree like  terra , I wasn't impressed tbh . After seeing various demonstrations , I am more impressed. It would certainly fit in with the stuff I'm into . I'm trying to only purchase maybe 2 or 3 synth and drum like instruments in total over the next couplle of years ..funds permitting whenever that will be . Living in a small flat determines  a lot also .  Too many synths out there , and being disciplined I know that I can't keep pursuing an ideal sound . It'd cost £££££ 😹
 

I only started properly in this alternative synth malarkey in 2018 , with the purchase of the moog grandmother . I did purchase the boss sp202 and dr202 years before that , but didn't really use them . A couple of Waldorf synths , but my next purchase will be the drum machine ..plus the behringher poly synth that costs about £45 . Can't remember the name of it off my head . 
That'll be enough for a while 😬

I looked at the soma pulsar 23, and love it . However, I will have to wait some time to get that due to cost 🙀

It's messy with the alligator clip type / meccano setup but apart from that , I'm blown away by it . 
Soma make some odd and pricey instruments . The terra may replace the moog grandmother one day . Who knows ? 🤔🙂

12 hours ago, sammybee said:

 

Could you stretch to an Electron model samples? (£285 at Andertons) They get a lot of love & it's a sampler too

 

Have you thought about the Behringer RD-8 (TR-808 copy) or RD-6 (TR-606 copy)? nice analog boxes with a lot of hands on control and some modern embelishments? Both easily within budget for a mint used one. With the rest of your gear I think the RD-8 would fit in quite nicely, esp for ambient type stuff

Well....you're pointing me in the right direction .infact, I think you've more or less made my decision 🙂

I looked at the Electron , and the RD-8 . I will be getting the RD-8 mk 2! 
I watch Bad Gear channel every week , and he did a great review of the electron. Having said that, audiopilz always makes anything sound good . I prefer the look of the Behringher , and it sounds great imho . I hope it's easy to use . I'll check on YouTube to confirm .

Thanks for recommendations . 😼👍

8 hours ago, sammybee said:

 

A lot of people don't get on with the Drum Brute(s) - which is why you see so many for sale - same with the Akai Tomcat/Rhythm Wolf (they are really marmite pieces)

 

What's your idea of not expensive, and what style of music are you creating? Those two bits of info would help the suggestions

Good points about the drum brute and tomcat . I do like the tomcat nevertheless , but no cowbell 🐄 .

Price wise , not more than £200 if I can help it . I did consider the volca kick , but not sure . 
My creations are only recording at home onky on GarageBand ,  one day I may be brave enough to use logic .

I use moogs , Waldorfs and a few iPad apps when I'm in the mood . Bass guitars of course , playing along to drums with various effects etc . More often than not I go for ambient stuff like tangerine dream / klaus schulze etc . Then the inner headbanger in me makes me play bass and drums etc . I also have a couple of boss sp samplers ..

Thanks for the feedback 👍

It is easy to get into a drum machine rabit hole ( who would've thought ?😂) 

With my drum machine , it has a certain sound which many like/ dislike . Shall we say, it is of its time .

I have the dfam , and would love a linn but that of course is not going to happen 😂

The mini drum brute appeals , and I lost out to someone on fleabay for the akai tomcat 🐈‍⬛

Tbh, I want something independent and not another zoom box ( although that was a good shout 🗣️) 

I just want something easy to use , compact and not expensive . Any more ideas appreciated ..

1 hour ago, Risk101 said:

Ooh thanks very much. I might give that a try. At the moment I’m stuck at Midi-Ox saying “no devices connected”!

 

ordered a new USB lead in case that’s the issue…..

Do you use the 5 pin midi at all ? Have you got a midi keyboard you could connect to the moog ? 

iMac 21.5"  2017 ,  Mac hd apfs file system , bsd name : disk 1s5s1 / system information version 11.0(915) . Mount point / 

lots more , but not  sure if I've provided enough info here 😬

OSX Ventura , SSD, 16 GB Memory,  Mac hd SATADISK ; 418.41gb of 1tb used  ( my external hard drive split into  two ;  410.54 gb of 2tb used/ 411.16 gb of 2tb used) .

Basic question really 😬

My Mac is running slow , probabky due to the fact I have a few GarageBand recordings on it . 
It happened before , but I just deleted them all . I do have an external hard drive , and was wondering if it's worth moving the file over there and if it's hard to do . 
I record short bits on soundcloud and never go back to them ., just leaving them on the Mac . 
 

Thanks 

Also , do you need more than one ? 
I have an old boss dr 202 . I have one on my zoom B3 if that counts, plus one on my Roland bass cube which is gathering dust. 
 

Agood friend of mine is repairing the boss . I have been using the various drums on GarageBand , and some great sounds on there.

Having said that , I do think about getting a cheap desktop drum machine . . Something simple to use that sounds decent . Possibky with midi socket .  Possibly behringher ? 

1 hour ago, Risk101 said:

Yep so definitely needs something more than just the USB cable 🤣 There is a link on the Sweetwiter site to "Midioxse" https://www.sweetwiter.com/sweetcare/articles/how-do-i-send-and-receive-sysex-on-pc-or-mac/ as part of this article which looked promising, but my PC/McAfee says the site is not secure, so I'm a bit dubious about running the Exe file !!

 

All a bit frustrating as I'm not an IT numptee but then neither am I an IT wizard - hang on a minute my son in law is an IT Manager for a big company - I will ask him !!

 

For now, I'm putting the Moog back on the shelf for toinght (the USB cable does reach the PC with it in its place!!), although I'm chuffed that I sorted out a pitch-wheel malfunction using the system utilities menu - all working fine now !

I have also got the 'not secure ' message when downloading  music instrument files . I use Mac osx. Anyway, if you proceeded, you woukd have got the file you need. Let us know when you get sorted . 

13 minutes ago, Risk101 said:

Thanks Ray - yes I saw that although don’t need Moog software downloaded. Couldn’t see Sysex on their website but have raised a tech query with them.

Meanwhile I might just try the download without a DAW !

Yes! Download without the DAW . You don't need a DAW to get the patches .  I think"  sysex librarian " is the download you need .

There is a moog forum also , which may have info on there . The only thng with moog , is iyou may not get an answer to your issue quickly if at all .  Very unpredictable these days . Contacting them in the  later part of evening uk time , may be quicker.  Sometms you may be able to do live chat with them then ..

just googled 'sysex librarian moog download " .  Sweetwiter among others have an answer to your question . This is the any to go 

16 minutes ago, Risk101 said:

Thanks Ray - yes I saw that although don’t need Moog software downloaded. Couldn’t see Sysex on their website but have raised a tech query with them.

Meanwhile I might just try the download without a DAW !

Yes! Download without the DAW . You don't need a DAW to get the patches .  I think"  sysex librarian " is the download you need .

There is a moog forum also , which may have info on there . The only thng with moog , is iyou may not get an answer to your issue quickly if at all .  Very unpredictable these days . Contacting them in the  later part of evening uk time , may be quicker.  Sometms you may be able to do live chat with them then ..

There is a section " how do I update software on my little phatty " on moog website . Worth checking out ...

From what I remember when I  had problems with my moog minitaur, I downloaded ' sysex' . You may be able to get that from Moog music.com  . Sysex is what you need . Keep usb lead connected  from your moog to your computer. 
Once you have downloaded sysex, there should be a " play " type button on it which you click ...that should load up your sounds .🤞

It may be worth checking the downloads  section on the moog website anyway for the phatty  , if you haven't done so .

keep us posted 

35 minutes ago, Cato said:

My 2 favourites of the 'Big 4' were Megadeth and Anthrax.

 

They were sort of opposites in the Megadeth were complex whereas Anthrax were more like a punch in the face, almost like a punk band but with an opera singer on lead vocals.

 

I only saw them live once, on that Maidwn tour and they were absolutely superb.

 

I think career wise they took a wong turn when Belladonna left and they went grunge on 'The Sound of White Noise' even though I actually really liked that album.

 

They alienated the metal fans and I'm not sure they picked up many new ones from the alternative/grunge scene because they already had a huge reputation as one of the 'Big Four' thrash bands.

 

I stopped listening to metal not long after that but while occaisionally I'd hear people talk about Metallica, Megadeth and Slayer I didn't hear much about Anthrax after that album.

Yeah, I think there was a punky and very energetic vibe with anthrax . Always good . I like all their stuff .. was lucky to see them play the Camden underworld with John bush . Great gig also. Slayer never disappoint imho ..what you see is what you get .

i alway found megadeth patchy , and mustaine unpredictable . Having said that, I think mustaine is/ was the one of best guitarist in thrash and one of the best in metal in general just behind Alex skolnick . His vocals can be ok , but so many times he spoils a really good song by sounding like dick dastardly 😂

1 minute ago, Lfalex v1.1 said:

Yep. That's the one. 

 

As for peak thrash, I see your early Anthrax in a good venue and raise you;

 

Clash of the Titans (1990)

 

It wasn't the big 4. More like 2 of 4 with excellent support.  All fielding their classic line-ups.

 

Slayer- Araya, King, Hanneman, Lombardo

 

Megadeth- Mustaine, Friedman, Menza, Ellerton

 

Testament- Billy, Peterstone, Skolnick, Christian, Clemente

 

Suicidal Tendencies- Muir, Trujillo, George, Clark, Herrera.

 

Best of the night? Controversially, Testament. But no-one sucked. Particularly Slayer. They were superb.

Mmm....😹. I wanted to go to that , but nobody else did . Not a happy bunny at the time . However in my defence ( and to make myself feel better ) , I went off megadeth after the imho dreadful peace sells gig at hammy o . Plus , I wasn't a fan of suicidal tendencies at the time .  Alway, always love slayer and saw them reign in blood / south of heaven and later tours . Testament great live band .

saw them supporting anthrax and ar Astoria . Great band . When megadeth had to drop out of the monsters of rock gig in cologne , testament were the replacements and were 2 nd best band of the day imho ( maiden healining 7th son ) . I saw suicidal at Wembley headlining and that was a good gig .