bass_ferret

Very interesting USP! Will have to have a good read at home.

[quote name='danlea' post='182072' date='Apr 21 2008, 06:29 PM']Also, music reproduction is a whole different kettle of fish to crafting a bass tone, as I'm sure you appreciate, in terms of transparency.[/quote] No it is not - hence the current popularity of gear like EBS, MarkBass, Epifani, GenzBenz that all claims to be transparent. [quote name='danlea' post='182072' date='Apr 21 2008, 06:29 PM']I know that my 2x10 slightly lacks deep bass on its own (and can't handle higher volumes when I tune it down or block both ports), and that the 1x15 provides it, despite it's compact size.[/quote] Why on earth would you want to block the ports? [quote name='danlea' post='182072' date='Apr 21 2008, 06:29 PM']As it happens I've noticed a Trace Elliot 1x15 that looks to be the exact same dimensions as my 2x10 available second hand, so most likely I'll be getting that anyway. Thanks for your input though.[/quote] The problem with technical stuff like I have been saying is that sometimes it is not confirmed by how it sounds. If it sounds good then go for it. I still remain convinced that the Hartke would have sounded crap.

[quote name='bass_ferret' post='181295' date='Apr 20 2008, 08:14 PM']If you like it like that who is to say you are wrong. What you will usually get in response to a post like this is loads of posters saying what they do on the assumption that it is correct. What I will say is it sounds like you are leaving yourself with nowhere to go. If you want more bass you have none left. If you get funny acoustics that suck out the bass you have none left. Boosting the eq does have a significant effect on percieved volume. If it is too quiet then turn it up. If you are boosting the EQ because it is not loud enough then you need a louder rig.[/quote] All good advice but the OP is using his eq to try and boost the volume so until he gets that sorted its pretty much wasted.

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[quote name='queenofthedepths' post='182137' date='Apr 21 2008, 07:31 PM']You have to sign in to access that though - I am a member but not everyone is - why don't you copy and paste what you've written there and put it in the basschat wiki? [/quote] I did. Then I got it in the neck from admin for telling someone to look at the wiki so I thought "f*** you" and just put the link in instead.

try the [url="http://www.finnbass.com/index.php"]homepage[/url]

[quote name='bass_ferret' post='182101' date='Apr 21 2008, 07:00 PM']Look at the basschat wiki for info on strings[/quote] [quote name='queenofthedepths' post='182109' date='Apr 21 2008, 07:03 PM']Where?[/quote] [url="http://wiki.basschat.co.uk/info:buying:strings"]here[/url] - links through to finnbass where the admin appreciate my efforts

Have a [url="http://www.finnbass.com/showthread.php?t=2340"]look here[/url]

Look at the basschat wiki for info on strings

If you look back on here you will find lots of examples of speaker guru's (or nerds depending on your POV) saying that it is generally a bad idea to mix different sized speakers reproducing the same frequencies and I have some experience of my own to back this up. If you are gonna bi-amp it is a different discussion but then again bi-amping would usually involve using a dedicated sub rather than a full range cab for the low frequencies. It is also wrong to assume that a 1x15 will have more low end that a 2x10 and you will also find this point repeated in various threads. I cant be arsed to look for the links cos frankly its not my money that may be wasted. Case in point; I had a Peavey T-max with a 115BW and 2x10 cabs. When used with each cab it sounded great but when I used both cabs there was a big hole in the bottom end, probably a result of cancellation of the ports rather than the drivers. So I got another 2x10 and dumped the 1x15. That the 2x10 was half the size of the 115 was a bonus. All the gear from makers I have used (Peavey, EBS. Genz Benz) have 2x10's that are smaller that the 1x15 in the range. If a 1x15 is smaller than a 2x10 then I suggest that the cab is too small for the driver to work properly (lots of posts on this as well). This is often the case with combo's. So my advice is still to get another 2x10 to match the one you already have. No it wont necessarily sound like a 4x10, it will most likely sound better as the drivers will have more room to breathe - this is particularly true where the drivers are diagonally aligned on the baffle making the 2x2x10 cabs taller than the 4x10 with vertically and horizontally aligned drivers. One final point, would you use different speakers on your stereo? Floorstander on one side and bookshelf on the other maybe? So why do we all insist on doing it with our bass rigs? [url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=17724&st=0&gopid=181771&#entry181771"]See also[/url]

There is a lot more to volume than watts and speaker size. There is a good article on the basschat wiki. You dont say what your rig is but until you get something bigger you could always suggest practice at lower volume

If you like it like that who is to say you are wrong. What you will usually get in response to a post like this is loads of posters saying what they do on the assumption that it is correct. What I will say is it sounds like you are leaving yourself with nowhere to go. If you want more bass you have none left. If you get funny acoustics that suck out the bass you have none left. Boosting the eq does have a significant effect on percieved volume. If it is too quiet then turn it up. If you are boosting the EQ because it is not loud enough then you need a louder rig.

Have a word with Mark at Bass Direct.

[quote name='OutToPlayJazz' post='180712' date='Apr 19 2008, 09:14 PM']can a sub £250 bass really be that good??[/quote] Ask the SX lovers I have always rated Ibanez basses as my first proper basses were Ibanez and I would still be playing them now if they were not so f***ing heavy. The SR basses have always had a good rep and the more expensive BTB did not do as well.

Read the basschat wiki, understand what it says, you can even ask questions if it is beyond your comprehension. If we keep answering can I do X questions with yes/no answers you wont learn anything and will keep asking the same questions.

[quote name='charic' post='180537' date='Apr 19 2008, 03:27 PM']This is most definately not a budget bass [/quote] Doh! Right first time. Then I revert to my original advice and don't put £25 actives in a $1000 bass.

I really cant see the point of not using one if it is available. Been using one for years and like everyone else says, tune in silence.

Very nice looking bass for the money. As others have said, having actives makes no difference to how it plays. A good set up should improve that as very few instruments are good to go straight out of the box. There is information about setting up and a list of guys who can do it for you on the basschat wiki. Just leave everything flat or find a sound you like and leave it. You have time to become a compulsive knob twiddler when you have mastered the instrument.

Did not realise these were budget basses - confused them with something rather more expensive. In which case it would be foolish to fit a pre-amp that cost more than the bass.

[quote name='danlea' post='180349' date='Apr 19 2008, 10:14 AM']While a 4x10 would be nice, I'm a gigging bassist and we use estate cabs to transport our equipment. Getting a large 1x15 is already a step in the 'how do we get this all in' direction. I don't see why you shouldn't mix cabs (other than for aesthetics), especially if your going to be splitting the frequencies (although I'm not certain I'll be doing that if I do choose to buy the Hartke). And no, I can't have one side full range and the other high/low pass with this amp. Dan.[/quote] Nobody said you had to take my advice. I did not say get a 4x10, I said get another 2x10, then you would have 2x2x10 which is the same as 1x4x10. Show me a 1x15 the same size as a 2x10? If you want to mix totally different sounding cabs go ahead, fill your boots. But if you dont want advice that contradicts what you have already decided to do then dont ask for it.

I dont usually think its a good idea to mix cabs and I personally would look for another 2x10 so you can combine them to get a 4x10. Hartke have a very distinctive sound that makes them marmite cabs. This distinctive sound may work well in the set up you describe or it may sound horrible. I doubt if anyone will have tried that combination so you are probably on your own.

Two things I have learned during my long and varied life. If something is too good to be true then it is not true. A £25 pre-amp that sounds as good as a £150 pre-amp. Not true. You get what you pay for. You wont find me extolling the virtues of SX and Squier VM basses. They are very good budget basses and if £200 is all you have then buy one. But if I had £2000 to spend I would get a GB, Shuker etc etc. Oh I did.

The Banshee's were a great band - even better when they had Bob Smith on guitar.

[quote name='BigRedX' post='180118' date='Apr 18 2008, 08:25 PM']Depends how much you want to spend... IMO the only active circuit I would entertain in any of my basses now would be the [url="http://www.acguitars.co.uk/index.php"]ACG filter one[/url]. However if you did want something more conventional have a look the what [url="http://www.east-uk.com/jrhome.htm"]John East[/url] has to offer.[/quote] +1. Or the EBS preamp V-P-T-B. If you fit a cheap circuit you have a cheap circuit on whatever standard of bass you have. Not sure about Samick but probably not ultra budget so would benefit from better that ultra budget actives.

Steve does post here occasionally. I got into trouble for saying I like the way she tucks the bass under her chest the last time this was posted