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I went ahead and bought the Sovereign as gigs are pending, but I'd still be interested in another Jack. Though Lawrence did mention Jacks in this thread ( I dont see any website link of Lawrences' ? ) they're 2 single empty 1x10's and i'd be after a 2x10 The speaker will be here tomorrow according to Blue Aran, so it will be up and running within a short time and it will have to do a gig in a weeks time, so we'll see ! I'll try the crossover, as thats my intention, but I'd still prefer to run the BP8 outs as dual channels, same frequencies, which would require a Jack, but i waited for some weeks for a Jack to appear after buying one here before, but one never did. I'm in Oxford Phil, so not exactly local but thanks for the offer Cheers for your help

Cheers Phil and thanks for your efforts - so ignoring the LF version, the cheapy non pro and the pro both state they're 99db on Fanes own website, so neither of these are actually 99db, and both are 96.5db ? Well as said, I'd prefer another Beta loaded Jack 210, but i may as well be hunting chickens lips. I'm happy to experiment on the cabs, as the cost is not prohibitive. If it turns out to be a mess, i'll just have to sell the 1x15 on, as it will still have a value on its own, and get some friend to build me another Jack

One question on the 2 sovereigns - the non pro is round, and the pro's are an odd shape with flat areas. Is this going to be a problem when trying to mount in a round hole ? [IMG]http://i46.tinypic.com/2r7bi54.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i45.tinypic.com/66c8ex.jpg[/IMG]

Cheers for chipping in Lawrence - i'd have been interested in a 210 Jack / Omin 10, but i dont want 3 cabs, if that makes sense Pity they cant be stuck together !! I will try the crossover experiments, as its very easy to change on the BP8 I see the ( real , heard ) Vol diff between 350 watt and 500 watt is nothing to write home about. Which means i dont have to bother getting a 4 ohm 500 watt 15" to match my 4 ohm 500 watt BFM 2x10 I dont push my amp very hard, as i have decent output ( 500 per chan @ 4 ohm / 350 per chan @ 8 ohm ) and the sensitivity of the speakers is reasonable

Thanks a lot Phil - all advice noted. I dont mind shifting the wood I have tried to find another Jack - mine has 2 Betas @ 250 watt 8 ohm each, so another like that would be ideal, but they dont seem to be selling much anymore. I think the depreciation on those after someone's spent time and money building them is a big factor. At least 50% loss and more. So, i'm stuck with what i have, but i will try the crossover out of the BP8.... any recommendations as to which Hz value I should send to the BFM ? The crossover allows anything from 80hz and above, upto 500hz and above. I will experiment, but It'd be handy to know your thoughts on this PS is there much of a volume difference ( that can be heard ) between 350 watt @ 8 ohms and 500 watt @ 4 ohms ?

Cheers Phil - appreciate the response. I'm not much of a DIY er, so hows about my BFM Jack 2x10 being the cab that does the mids ? Would that change your mind about maybe using the Pro version instead ? It would mean running a 1x15 and a 2x10 and you dont always hear good things about this set up, but I'm not looking for perfection. As said earlier, the Sovereigns are all 8 ohm, and so i'd be running a 500 watt 4 ohm BFM and a 350 watt 8 ohm 1x15 ( my 2 channel amp does 500 watt @ 4 ohm and 350 watt @ 8 ohm ) Do you see any problems with that or should i forget the 8 ohm Fanes and look for another 4 ohm 500 watter 15" ? One more thing, I use a BP8 FX board with 2 channel outputs, and i can run each output at different freqs. I can send the lows to the 1x15 on output 1, and anything from 80hz upto 500hz and above to the 2x10 on output 2

Yeah Phil it is.

Oooh lovely - thanks B Better give Phil time to woof down his sunday nosebag Just to add to prices, i've now seen the 15 Sovereign Pro version for £103, so only about £15 more than the non pro version. The only caveat here at all is that my dual channel amp stuffs out 500 watts per channel @ 4 ohm, and 350 watt @ 8 ohm, ( on paper - i know this isnt real ) and since those Fanes are all 8 ohm, i'm going to be on the lower figure of ( theoretical ) 350 watts, but i'm assuming the perceived volume difference of 150 watts is not summit to worry about ?

Hi Balco W = 24 1/2" H = 26 1/2 " D = 19 3/4" ( as stated, outside measurements ) Yes, the baffle is mounted around 25mm back, and 18mm is probably a more accurate figure for the cab panel thickness

Thanks Phil - appreciated. I tried to calc. the proper vol. of my cabinet, and came up with 6.66 cubic ft, but how accurate that is... -

[size=5]Checking the Fane website, I found an LF version and wondered if this would also be a contender ?[/size] [size=5]This is the LF version of the Sovereign, not the LF version of the Sovereign Pro , to confuse things[/size]

[size=5][font=tahoma,geneva,sans-serif]I wonder if any TS params gurus could run their eyes over the specs of these two 15's from Fane, and recommend one or both for a cabinet i have at home.[/font][/size] [size=5][font=tahoma,geneva,sans-serif]The cab is 19 3/4" x 24 1/2" x 26 1/2" ( is that 12,822.68 cube inches ? ) My maths looks a bit out there[/font][/size] [size=5][font=tahoma,geneva,sans-serif]Anyways, the dimensions are of the outside and dont account for the wall thickness of 20mm for the cabs' wood panels, or the port[/font][/size] [size=5][font=tahoma,geneva,sans-serif]Its ported with a 6" port, 5 1/4" deep[/font][/size] [size=5]I've seen the Sovereign 15 ( not the pro ) for £88/89 + postage. I havent seen a price for the Sovereign Pro 15, but expect it to be substantially more money[/size] [size=5]Cheers ![/size] [size=5]Sovereign 15 in blue - Sovereign Pro 15 in green[/size]

Same here - looks like its starting to creep back though

Definately improving. First 5 forums are now clickable ( from Introductions down to Site News )

Here's what the front page looks like for me when I open it from my bookmarks. I've also logged out and searched BC through Google and still get this front page. Every line is just a comment in some forum or other on BC. Cant click on anything except to the right of the page. To get here and actually post this, i had to scroll to members online, find an admin or glob mod who i thought may well have posted in the BC news section, click their name ( just happened to be Hmaster ) and then click POSTS in the profile and that way, i found a comment by Hamster in this thread and just clicked the thread title, and thats how i got here. I guess it looks different for some people, but its a complete mess for me, using Firefox I'm wondering whether a cache clearout would be any better [IMG]http://i46.tinypic.com/2zrgx2c.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i47.tinypic.com/2po1wmp.jpg[/IMG] [IMG]http://i50.tinypic.com/1zvbz21.jpg[/IMG]