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I have considered it, but by the time you add vibrating boards, good headphones, transmitters etc, id rather just go DI rig, monitor and -15db plugs to cut out the cymbals.

It’s not just Class D, I had an Eden WT550 that plopped itself mid gig, nightmare! It then got worse as the uk tech couldn’t repair it had to send a new preamp board over from the US. Then a few months later the fan went and it overheated and cut out mid gig. I got it repaired and solid it, but I was an inch away from a Basil Fawlty Moment in the Car Park. I loved the Eden sound, but the build quality of my particular unit was Friday pm at Longbridge in the 1970’s.

Personally, I’ve found Ashdown very helpful. TC Electronic, Line 6 we’re appealing (went in the bin) and Eden (about 9years ago) cost me a fair bit in petrol, phone calls and parts.

Absolutely the case 95% of the time. I’m not opposed to letting the PA do the heavy lifting but I prefer mic/di. Agree that in that instance the FRFR class D argument is a bit redundant.

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Apparently TC Electronics test department has been bought by VAG Group…… 😁

Yes but in a different way! 😉

Absolutely. The power amps are Full Frequency Flat Response (FRFR) which means all the tone colouration comes from the preamp. Depending on whether this has been lifted from a pedal or worked as bespoke for the amp may make all the difference……

Clever. 👍 But it was down the pub that I finally fell out of love with digital switching Coke. 😊

Dammit is this the BV1001T? I may have to try one.

I think it’s perfect for front of house where you want to have a completely uncoloured representation of the band (FRFR). However for an instrument amp, the preamp and power amp have historically added colour and character to the tone. FRFR lacks that colouration hence why Darkglass, Aguilar etc put pedal type preamps in front of them. I did have a Aguilar TH500 which wasn’t bad, but ultimately not for me. It’s all down to personal taste. 😊

As I said it’s personal choice, I can tell the difference for sure and for ages I tried to tell myself I couldn’t. Ultimately it’s personal choice, but if work done or power is a function of area under the the output graph it feels like class D are steeper spikes and A/B are more sine waves with greater work done. This may explain the need to lose heat. I’m no expert but I trust my ears. No right or wrong just personal preference! 😉

Not knocking anyone else. The fact there are so many flavours means people like them. It’s just not for me personally. 😊✌️

The emergence of class D heads had me very excited! 800 watts in small box light box. No more lugging around huge transformers, great! Except apart from the easy carry the rest of the story has been pretty erm stinky poo!! Despite 8 years, five heads and every Eq patten under the sun. I simply cannot get on with the sound at volume. 😬 I”ve tried TC Electronics (BH 550) Aguilar (TH500) Tech 21 (VT) Markbass (Tube 800) and finally Mesa Boogie (D800) and no matter if you put a valve in front of them, a compressor before them, a neo or a ceramic speaker from them, or summon a religious cult behind them. They sound too direct at volume to my ears. I tried, but I’m going back to my Class A/B happy place! 😊

See this has now got me singing come on “thunder child” from War of the Worlds. As did your last post about “Stormbringer” coming….. I need to either stop reading your posts or countering with: Vigier Passion - Purple Rain Spector 40th - Blue on Black Vigier Excess - Behind Blue Eyes Ricky 4003 - Eat the Rich 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Thanks that I did see that you’d cycled through these in quick succession so thanks for your advice (along with others on this forum). so it’s between the HX Effects, Plethora and GX100. I going to have a good think. And maybe find a shop that has them all (this may take a few weeks)!

Have you tried the MK2? Any good?

I had the Mk1 version, not for me tbh I thought the fx were poor.

I was kind of thinking the same about the Helix line, it’s 2 1/2 years since I sold mine and I thought it was mid life then. Despite all the distractions of previous study I wish I’d got another more into the setting up of effects chains editing etc. On one hand the Plethora seems easy, but I wonder if it’s too limited. The B6 seems tidy but I I’m not sure I warm to it and I’d like parallel processing. DI out is not an issue as i always use an amp (with a DI). The attraction of the Boss is its new and at the start of its lifecycle, updates will follow, editing can be done via I pad/phone and Bluetooth. I’m starting to feel that at some point I’ll just say screw it and pick the one that is at the top of the list that moment!

That’s got me thinking again..