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7 minutes ago, lidl e said:

Boss katana go? I just picked one up. 

 

Havent used it but is has what youre looking for at the right price. Reviews are fantastic 

 

 

 

Oh yeah, i forgot about that. Ive read some reviews but that was before i wanted an interface. Cheers, I’ll look in to it. 

12 minutes ago, fretmeister said:

Oops. Missed that bit.

 

it doesn’t. I use Amplitube on my iPad. There’s a good free version as well as paid.

Cheers. Yep, i have all this covered with software if needed, i just wondered if there was a different way of doing it with hardware. 

What amp sims does that have?

10 minutes ago, tauzero said:

 

That's good news, I'd watched a Youtube review of it which showed it with a micro USB port so they must have changed it (saying that, Lekato's pictures of the WS-50 looks like it now has USB-C, so maybe they've updated both).

It’s a very welcome addition. 
I’ve been using them all evening without a single issue. I like that i can keep the receiver plugged in to my mixer and just turn it off when I’ve finished. I had to pull the Boss out so it didn’t drain. 

I have a Steinberg UR22-C which has the above built in, and works perfect, but i keep it connected to my Mac. I want something similar to use in another room with my ipad for when im learning songs on bass.

Thing is i cant bring myself to buy another, as it just seems a bit excessive, and it wont get used much. 

One option I’ve considered is getting a Zoom H4n Pro, as that would work fine, but having just got a H4e it again feels excessive. The H4e works ok but doesnt have the onboard effects. 

Looking for suggestions as to what else i can look at. 

Has to be bus compliant. I only intend to use one cable from ipad to interface, and a headphone cable. No power cables. Bass will be wireless. 

Im not bothered what sims are included, just something to liven it up a bit. Could even be just good EQ and comp. 

Shouldn’t need to use an app to get it working, i don’t want to be loading songs in to it etc. Ok with using an app as a front end though. 

Needs to be reasonably cheap, let’s say around £100. A UR22-C will cost around £130. 

I guess im really looking at another UR22-C, but open to suggestions. 

Please, im asking about an interface, not any other workaround etc. I have plenty of other options like Zoom B4 in to interface, Logic open on ipad etc already.

3 minutes ago, ped said:

None have the battery life if the Boss WL20 though 

I had the boss one, in fact i have both verisons, but for now i want to keep costs down as ive not yet even met the new band, i mighty end up not needing them.

 I was always a bit disappointed that the Boss don’t have an on/off switch, and i much prefer the option of selecting another channel if i need to.

15 minutes ago, ped said:

What about the WS70? Has lower latency <3ms and looks pretty cool

I did consider that, and like the idea of having a battery indicator, but i felt it looked a bit big and would stand out more.

On 04/04/2024 at 15:24, police squad said:

the 90 has longer battery life, according to the blurb 5.6 ms latency as opposed to <6ms.

range is 30 meters compared with 100 meters of the 50. I havent even gone into the next room, so no idea on that

Just looking at the specs again, and it seems both are rated at 100ft, at least according to LEKATO themselves. I think Amazon made a typo as they state 100 meters, which is a crazy distance. 

16 hours ago, tauzero said:

 

the WS-90 still has micro USB on it which is a slight annoyance with the WS-50, especially as the MS-1 IEM wireless is USB-C so they can obviously do it if they try.

I just went to plug my WS90 in and was surprised its USB-C, not micro USB. So i guess then could and did do it. 

I do like the ideal of switchable channels. That was what put me off their IEM system. I guess being in the 5.8 band its not so much an issue at the moment. 

3 hours ago, AxelF said:

I've used the WS90 for about 6 months now with zero drop outs or other issues, they're a bit bigger than I was expecting but perform brilliantly. That's alongside a guitarist's Xvive guitar wireless and three Xvive monitors (though they're all 2.4GHz), plus the router for our XAir and all the audience's devices.

Cool. Im sure my Xvive would be fine, but i like the idea of standing more chance of not having issues. 

58 minutes ago, police squad said:

we all know IEM is a no brainer, bass guitar also sounds much nicer too.

Good luck with it, bass is great. Let us know how the ws90 performs

Cheers. Will do. They look ugly and cheap to me but as long as they work, thats really all that counts. 

1 hour ago, police squad said:

I do 2x1 hour sets with a 20-30 minute break and havent had any problems with it dying. I stick it on charge when I get home and it's ready to rock

I also only use it to stop treading on cables, as a duo we play in some tiny places, so IEM, guitar and mic are all wireless now

I’m more concerned about 4 hour rehearsals rather than gigs at this stage. I always do charge things up before leaving the house, but i prefer to have a good bit of headroom if i can. 
 

I’ve worked hard to get my band to use things like IEM's, and still not quite there yet. Looks like with the new band I’ll have a much harder time convincing them, but i accept the challenge. Im hoping i can at least use my system somehow. Time will tell. 

3 minutes ago, police squad said:

the 90 has longer battery life, according to the blurb 5.6 ms latency as opposed to <6ms.

range is 30 meters compared with 100 meters of the 50. I havent even gone into the next room, so no idea on that

Ah cool. I was just going by the spec on Amazon. It thought i read both were 8 hours. 
i too will be pretty much right next to an amp so its more to stop treading on cables rather than to go walkabout. 
 

EDIT. I can see now the WS50 is rated 5 hours. That would worry me slightly so I’ll stick with the 90. 

4 minutes ago, police squad said:

I've been using the WS50 since last year and have had no problems with it. No latency issue or dropout. I'm not very far from the receiver, it's on the floor plugged into my multifx.

It was less than 50 quid and I have done about 50 gigs with it now

Cheers. I did purchase that first, it’s £42 at the moment, but then saw that the WS90 had a bit less latency. Just wondering what else is different. Got the 90 coming tomorrow but i know i wouldn’t notice the latency from either. 
 

i dont plan on using anything between the bass and amp (famous last words lol). At least not until i get settled. Picked the bass up for the first time last night since 2020. 

Sorry about the thread resurrection. Thought this the best place to get info. 
I’ve just joined a band playing bass, and although i still have my Xvive system i see now there are plenty of 5.8 systems out.
As I’ll be rehearsing at a rehearsal complex with loads of other bands close by i figure a new guitar system is going to cause less hassle. 
I’ve discounted the Nux for now, purely on price and that i dont know what will happen in the near future. Might get it down the line (or if the Lekato doesnt work out this weekend). 
I’ve looked at the Lekato systems on Amazon and see there is a WS50 and a WS90. To me it looks like the WS90 has less latency, but is there any other differences (other than it’s uglier). 
 

Cheers. It’s good be back with Bass GAS.  Keyboard GAS is crippling lol. 

20 hours ago, JPJ said:

My two’penneth coming from being a Behringer XR18 user for many many years. 

 

Firstly, I don’t like delay on vocals. Secondly I love reverb on vocals. Three tricks I’ve learned from pro engineers: 1) use plate reverb in a live setting; 2) make use of pre-delay to separate the reverberated voice from the dry signal - makes the vocal sound fuller and warmer; 3) eq the reverb to only work on the mid-range so hard use of hpf and lpf to stop the reverb sounding muddy or shrill. 

 

I have a plate reverb on the XR18 that is pretty much ‘set and forget’ and use the send level to adjust how much of each voice has reverb added in the FOH mix. This is probably the wrong way to do it as wiser people than I seem to say that your sends should be at unity, but it works for me. 

Pretty much exactly how i use my XR18. Set up the plate reverb last year and i only ever touch the levels every now and then if someone gets a bit ‘shouty’ and drives it harder. 

We have one set up for FOH, and another for the IEM/Aux so they can have a bit more or less without messing with FOH. 

I do also have a delay set up, and i manuly raise the level to where it blends in well for one ro two songs. 

We tend to use the XR18 all the time, even when we rehearse so it gives me a good chance of getting things where they need to be. 

Just a quick update. 

I used the H4n Pro last night at a rehearsal. Same place i used the H4e.

2 things.

First off,  there was way more of the rumble in the recordings that i complained about before. New stand, new recorder. I do have it figured out now. It seems that one of  the guitarists has a large floor fan and has started using it behind him rather in front. so now it blows across the room. I only realised this as my singer had to ask him to turn it down as she was getting blasted. This must be the cause. 

Second, although the recording came out well, and the levels were quite low so never peaked, its all clipped. Im not sure i can hear it, but i can see it in Logic. This was confusing as i even had the limiter on, just in case (i hadn’t used this before so wasnt sure how to set the levels).

After some searching no YT, it seems that when recording with the level set to 2 or lower (i was at just under 1, although in hindsight i could have gone to 2), the signal does clip. So it’s normal, and obviously not a big deal to most people. 

I think I’ll try and return it or sell it and go back to the H4e. Seems like it wasnt faulty after all and was more convenient to use.

Oh, i didnt know we had this thread. I almost got a CK61 earlier this month. In fact i ordered it 3 times but each time canceled the order as i just cant decide. 

Its not the CK61, i know ill really like it, i love my MODX so im used to the Yamaha way of doing things and how they sound, but it would need to replace my Fantom 06, and while im sure it can, it just seemed like a lot of hard work making the switch. 

I love the idea of the 9 drawbars, the fact that it sounds like the Reface, and the much more usable pianos. Im sure I’ll get one at some point. Still need to sell my MODX6 first. 

Thanks for the reply. 
I went ahead and got one anyway, as it does look very useful. I’ve hardly used my old one but this seems more like a big step up. It’s more for giving to a mate in the audience to film rather than them use their phone etc. and shoot portrait 🙄

From my early tests in low light (just the cat at home) the quality is very good compared to other devices i have like this. 
It needs to be simple to use and it doesn’t get much simpler than rotate the screen and its recording, with horizon levelling. 

I have used my GoPro and Max at gigs from the stage. On larger stages I’ve put the Max on the end of the Insta selfie stick, sticking out from the PA stand. This has worked really well. Those 360 cameras give a bit more interest and ability to vary the view over the fix ones like the action cameras. 

8 minutes ago, javi_bassist said:

 

I have also moved from the KZ because they were always coming out from my ear. They were too big for my ear. I found the IE100 to be perfect in size. I also have the Mee2 as a backup because they are the same size. 

I know the isolate (I even used them as ear plugs when the other band was playing because there were too much noise). I guess there was just too much noise.

 

 

Do you find a huge difference between the IE400 and the IE100? The IE100 sound great, but I think the KZ were just a little bit better with lows. Just a little bit. The IE100 are so much more comfortable.

The low end is deeper, and overall I’d say the 400’s are richer sounding, with a bit more depth, but this was testing them out at home against the 100. In a live environment i don’t think the difference is a big, but it’s still there. 
One noticeable difference is the fit. The 400’s are slightly different. A bit thicker in places and i noticed this right away. The 100’s were a revelation to me. I finally found a pair of IEM’s that fitted my flat ears perfectly. I did two gigs with them and then got the 400’s. These still fit fine, but do take a a tiny bit more work to get them in. They stay put though and I’m more than happy. Not sure I’d bother getting the 400 again if i lost or broke mine. The cost difference doesn’t seem to match the improvement for me. I’d be just as happy with the 100. 

I guess i another thing to maybe consider is that in small places the vocal mics will pick more of the stage sound up and relay that back to the monitors. They can also give the impression the sound is leaking in a bit more. 
i don’t use ambient mics when on small stages for this exact reason. 

53 minutes ago, javi_bassist said:

Hello guys!

 

I have been reading this thread, and I haven't finished, so sorry if you guys have talked about it already (I tried searching for something like this without much luck).

 

Last weekend I played with IEM in a very small club. My signal chain was:
Bass-->Pedalboard-->Rolls PM351-->Sennheiser XSW. The thing is that my in ears don't isolate that much which hadn't bothered me until last Saturday. I put foam plugs already and I have tried a lot. Do you guys have any tips to improve isolation? The in ears are Sennheiser IE100 in case it helps.

I find that on small stages it feels like my IEM’s aren’t sitting correctly in my ears. I guess there is only so much noise they can reduce. 
I find Comply’s tips help make a better seal, but when I’m standing right next to a drummer there isnt much else i can do. 
 

i guess its saves setting the ambient mic up 😀
 

Im using IE400 pro but also found the same with the IE100. Both have been the best fit and seal i have ever had though. 

Not familiar with the gear you are talking about, but I’d say you might be better off with something like a Zoom B4 over the BDI21. This has full amp and cab sims. You could definitely fine tune it to your liking. 

2 hours ago, Pirellithecat said:

Q's
Bass
How do you get a decent Bass sound? 
On the mixer  have Bass, Semi Parametric Mids, Treble, and HPF, but I just can't seem to craft the sound - twangy top end and a mushy bottom end.  Probably just need practice but any help appreciated.
The IEM bass tone bears little resemblance to the on-stage bass sound.  Any thoughts on Pre vs Post EQ from the DI out of my Ashdown ABM600?  

 

For Bass in IEM’s ive started to insert a Guitar amp sim (built in to my XR18). It seems to give it a bit more ‘life’ and less DI’ed (which it is). Not a true Bass rig sim, but seems to work better than just EQ.

Looks like it was £148 inc delivery, so ive ordered one. Thanks for the head up. Love the fact that its black as well 🙂