Al Krow

6 minutes ago, 51m0n said:

Yeah yeah right, ok sure

The only (two) BC'ers who have ever bought a TF Bullhead are either selling them or have sold them. There's a bunch of us who still have and love our M6s. Quad erat demonstrandum

1 minute ago, PJ-Bassist said:

Ah the spectracomp - the gateway drug into compression (at least for me).   I had one for about six months flipping between a few presets, loved it but decided to actually learn about compression and purchased the Hyper Luminal.

That's a very good analogy - been described that way to me as the way into compression. Being a numpty, I didn't have any real liking (or even disliking come to think of it) for my Cali 76CB, Aggie TLC, MXR M87, Zoom compression sims and most recently my Keeley Bassist which is an awesome limiter, but I much prefer the TC Spectracomp as a compressor.

How did I know that any thread with me and @51m0n would eventually degenerate into a discussion on compression. Lol!

Night and day I guess...😂

Anyone using a sub woofer as standard in their rigs to enhance their bass or pedal effects?

If so which model have you gone for and are you finding it makes a big difference to your bass sound or your pedal board set up?

Just now, 51m0n said:

Yep, its fine - if you haven't got a clue what you are doing. If you know what you are doing its just going to stop you doing what you want.

Simples.

When it comes to compression "not having a clue what I'm doing" sums me up very well!

When it comes to knowing that my M6 is going to comfortably hold its own against your Tricky Bullsh*t Bullhead, now that's a completely different matter 😀

10 minutes ago, GisserD said:

If you can hold on until April, the new source audio synth pedal is likely to be in the £140 - £160 price range if their other 1series pedals are anything to go by. 

OP: that's the SA Spectrum I mentioned earlier. 

@GisserD-any sense yet whether it's going to match up to the FI? 

7 hours ago, The GroovyPlucker said:

Cheers, ray Jones, not sure I want to get bogged down in too many pedals, but appreciate your comments, I've thought about that OC-2 before, but might just go down the lazy route and try and get a semi decent dedicated synth pedal, just which one, love the fretless & synth combo, pino is amazing.....

In addition you mentioned you wanted a bit of variety in waveform in your OP.

The fuzz + octave + filter combo can give you a decent synth sound but with whatever combination of pedals you have, you will be fairly limited in the range of synth sounds you can get from that particular group of pedals. 

Here's a track that both our band and audiences love (from a post 2000 formed group!) with a cracking bass line:

Hope you get a lot of pleasure from the newest member of your herd Cam! And nice little video - thanks for posting that.

I've lost track of what you now have, bass wise, and what you've moved on other than that it's building up a to mightily impressive collection! You'll need to remind me at some point  

Best synth right now (bar none) Panda Audio Future Impact. They come up from time to time in the FS and get snapped up almost immediately.

The new EHX Bass Mono Synth really does look like it's going to steal the show for "best synth on a budget".

On it's way and could be interesting: Source Audio Spectrum

59 minutes ago, Merton said:

I’ve just found this pedal and have to say I’m struggling not to buy one. Could be perfect for my new project.

You're not allowed. Did someone say Sibob...

Oh bugg*er it! Go get this pedal then you won't feel guilty about getting a BF SC 😂

5 hours ago, 51m0n said:

...heh, I am that 51m0n who stated loud and clear at a Bash years ago that one knob compressors are Satan's balls...

Aha! So this is what one of Satan's gonads looks like?

All roads get compressed back to Rome in the end. 

**sigh**

Actually if I was going to call it, it would be:

(based on reputation from trusted BC mates)

EQ control - Tech21 Q/Strip

Additional amazing tone - Monique M700

Power amp - get something decent that puts out what you need.

The M6 and the pre-amp on my basses covers that off for me. But hey I'm just a humble bass player and not a sound engineer... 😂

@Hellzero - well that's told you then! Lol! 

@51m0n

Fyi - I am the proud owner of a Satan's one-knob compressor by TC and finding it a LOT more effective than that Cali posh-boy stuff. But heh I am that same Al Krow who believes ALL compressors are the spawn of the devil.

Back to the plot: seems to me you're very focused on a great preamp. Fair do's.

In which case why not a Monique M700? There's even one in the FS.

@both of you

There's a lot of cash flying around on this thread. One of us is going to be out of pocket, but at least beers will have been bought 🍻

11 minutes ago, 51m0n said:

You're on!

BTW at 25lbs for the rack mount version giving you 600w @ 4 ohms vs 6.2lbs and something around 1Kw @ 4 ohms you can keep the M6
I will happily A/B the tone though, because it seriously blew away the D800 for tone for me, by far the best preamp in a bass head I have heard yet...

Great, look forward to it.

IMO there is no real comparison between the tone of the M6 with its 12Ax7 pre and 'Trans class' (I'm guessing that is A/B class) power amp which together provide its deliciously complex harmonics,  and the tone from even some of the best D class amps - the Mesa D800 included, which I've also tried (albeit not through very the best of cabs - just what was available in store).

@bassfan and I A/B'd my M6 against both my DG M900 and his TC RH750 and there was no contest. So much so that he went and got an M6 for himself within a couple of weeks.

If the TF comes close or betters it, I'll happily purchase one myself and trade in my M6 and my DG M900. I've been looking for a D class that achieves that tonal 'sparkle' the M6 delivers for a couple of years now and not found anything yet. So I (genuinely) look forward to being blown away!

PS please check the power rating on the TF - I think 1KW at 4 ohms may be peak rather than RMS? So not apples with apples comparison.

7 minutes ago, Hellzero said:

Better start putting money aside. 😁

I'll take it from my BB2025X budget. 

Well when you've got your TF, I look forward to an opportunity to A/B them. If my Mesa M6 (and I'm not talking about the D800 / D800+ series here which are half the price of the M6) doesn't match or exceed the TF for tone then ALL your beers for that night will be on me. And I'll likely get a TF myself - lol! 

Get a used Mesa M6 and be done with it. Pair it with a VK210 or a Berg 212 (or similar) and your ears will love you forever  

@Muzz

I think you've hit the nail on the head:

300W WA + great cabs = just fine

300W WA + run of the mill cabs = may struggle

If I had to choose between a great cab and a run of the mill amp and vice versa, I'd go for the great cab option every time.

Any shortcomings on the amp can often be dealt with by a quality preamp pedal. Shortcomings on the cab can't so easily be fixed.

Yup that's the one. So there is 'flat' tuning adjustment available, but I don't make "use" of that i.e. it's on a normal setting.

Instead of being exactly central when the bass is in tune it will be both central and one next to it on the right lit up. It's close but not quite there.

3 minutes ago, krispn said:

Ahh I thought from the picture you had the Korg jack plug tuner thing. 

It's the Korg 'Pitchjack' plug in - is that different to the one you're thinking of?

I don't think they're making them any more (which may say something!) ...

1 hour ago, krispn said:

@Al Krow

If your tuner is consistently ‘accurately’ off check if has an option to ‘set the tuning’ maybe a switch or a function button. It’s possible you may have hit it and changed the A-440Hz to something else. Many tuners have the ability to change the A-440hz so you can down tune etc and still get an ‘in tune’ reading. 

#RTM 

#RTM is a good general principle for sure.

But you also need to #CTP**

So whilst many tuners may have the ability to change the A-440Hz, this certainly doesn't. It's a little bit out in the same direction for each note. I've calibrated it with tuners that are accurate.

Tbf it's not out by precisely by the same amount for each string - my bad for indicating this might have been the case and why you rightly diagnosed your possible solution.

It's actually fine for a quick and dirty at gigs, particularly as I know its foibles.

**check the price. This was a < £12 piece of Korg tat. If you pay peanuts you invariably get monkeys! That's an equally good general principle methinks.

36 minutes ago, Merton said:

Damn you. Damn you. The one cab which will ruin my ability to succeed with Sibob’s challenge. Argh.

Fortunately you don't want anything as a light as this: I'm pretty sure from the 'I ain't buying anything, no no I really am not...oh damn it where did that purchase come from?!' thread you've got your heart set on an Ashdown 410, so all good? (Just don't tell Sibob about that one either).

Just now, chris_b said:

If you can't see the bass the audience can't see you! Never mind LED's, sounds like the band should be setting up stage lights of some description.

Fair do's - we did have some stage lighting together with some 'party' lighting for the hall.  

But I'd have thought that audiences don't particularly need to see the bass player as long they can hear the groove and have sight of the vocalists (who are a much nicer sight, believe me, than the old geezer with the 5 string 😁) 

52 minutes ago, Paul S said:

In my little band I enjoy several - American Girl, Lido Shuffle in particular, but Psycho Killer is most fun.  Our singer really gives it some welly, too. 

Bon Jovi tribute bass line I enjoy the most is probably Living On A Prayer.  Nothing much to it but it is powerful and drives the song along so nicely.

OMG Paul - it was dark. It was late. We've played living on a prayer a million times. But this one time I managed to start two notes further up the fret board than I should. It kinda worked in an avant garde jazz sort of way. The guitarist glared at me with a 'WTF look' and I got back on track in 2 bars flat... one of those little horror stories that are worth a pint at the Dog n Duck when meeting up with fellow BC'ers methinks! 

Does there come a point in every bass player's life where getting LEDs at the side of the fretboard should be compulsory? 😁