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1 hour ago, EBS_freak said:

This doesn't really make any sense with me? The 2.4 range which is widely used by routers, only has 3 truly intermodulation free (no overlaps) frequencies in the range (channels 1, 6, 11). It's when people start putting in wireless systems that make use of the other channels (like mics, IEMs etc), that the chaos starts. Like all of these things, radio require careful consideration when deploying... so for example, 3 routers in close proximity, for example for different companies, should be all on different channels. Dont be surprised if you then do a gig in an office block where 2.4 starts going crazy... for everybody (assuming fairly close proximity there). So if you turn up at a gig where there is a lot of contention in the 2.4, you've got the beginnings of understanding why. Likewise, upping transmission power could make matters worse when there's multiple bits of wireless around.

 

Like channel 38, 70 and 2.4. and 5.8, all of this is a bit of a free for all with no strict management. However, when you get into the realms of site licenses or leases, things are VERY co-ordinated.   

I definitely wouldn't expect to get sense out of me! I just know it's the only drop out I had with them, and it happened after I had to move closer to the standing led light batons we use due to repeat stage invasions. There's every chance I've put 2+2 togethe and come out with 5... But there you have it! I wasn't using the IEMs at the time either... I'm a sucker for sales jargon, and NUXs website made their 5.8 system look better than their 2.4, so I was sold 🤣

This was an awful space to test these settings on haha!  Hard rock cafe in Newcastle - big open room with tiles and glass, insisted we use their big speaker system which was a flying rig and too big for the room coupled with a sound limiter above the stage.  Needless to say, not a lot of attention was paid to the bass tone!

2 minutes ago, EBS_freak said:

So with 5.8Ghz, you have less interference - but the nature of RF propagation for 5.8, means that the radio waves are less good at passing through mediums that lie between transmitter and receiver (e.g. when comparing to 2.4 using the same transmission power). This is still true for all radio waves, but the higher the frequency, for a fixed power amount, the effectiveness of penetration (oo-er) is less. 

 

So yes, less interference - but more likely to drop out if you haven't got direct line of sight between transmitter and receiver. And of course, for the same power, range will be considerably less for 5.8 compared to 2.4.

 

If you are getting problems, take this into account, make sure that any body worn transmitters/receivers, aren't placed as such so that the radio waves have to pass through your torso to get to their destination.

 

As with everything I say though, do take things with a certain pinch of salt - because if this stuff works for you, it works for you... just don't go into things blind and then scratch your head when the result isn't what you are expecting.

I'll be honest, I wasn't aware of ANY of that, except for the less interference.  I did think it was strange that people stuck with 2.4ghz when 5.8ghz was less congested!  I had a drop out with a 2.4ghz set when standing next to some vertical LED lighting systems and panicked so swapped it out.  I also use a 2.4ghz IEM system, so liked the fact that they wouldn't interfere.

My transmitter tends to go in my back pocket, with my receiver in my pedal board on the floor and touch wood I've had no issues, although I'm likely to start panicking now haha.  Appreciate the words though, great to have that info and no doubt a massive help for people who go down the google rabbit hole for wireless info in future.

I'm having great results with the NUX C-5RC set and an extension jack cable to plug it into.  Budget friendly, 5.8ghz, sounds great and is really convenient to use with rechargeable case!

7 hours ago, northcountrybob said:

Oi Oi! 

 

Just wondering what y'all make of the Way Huge Pork & Pickle?

 

I'm trying to squeeze another pedal onto my Nano+ by going to pedals with top mounted jacks. I've been using the ODB-3 for a while. I run the Gain almost at min, and the Balance up at 2 o'clock. I boost bass with it a bass too. I find it gets very saturated quite quickly with gain much higher. I like how it sounds but pretty much only when dialed in one way. Also, as it's a boss pedal with side mounted jacks it takes up a bit of space.  

 

I'm looking at alternatives to add a bit of hair. Top mounted jacks. The Pork & Pickle popped up. Just wondering if there is anything else compact out there. I was looking at Earthquaker stuff but not sure if any of their drives are ideal. Not sure if a clean blend is essential. 

Pork and pickle all day! No contest. Best drive I've ever used, sold it on as it wasn't really needed and I was using when I shouldn't 🤣. If I ever get enough space on my board and need a drive it'll be the first pedal I buy. The clean blend isn't strictly clean, but what it adds is fantastic!

2 hours ago, Chadu25 said:

 

I'd say the Bassrig suits my taste and gives me the tone I'm after better that the B7K. Always been a fan of the ampeg sound. I love the B7k however, you can't unhear that "darkglass" signature sound even at low gain.

 

Even the ampeg IR from shiftline that I loaded in the B7K is nowhere near what the Super Vintage can give in my experience. Also love that there is a cabsim switch that is engaged even when the pedal is off as long as you are connected to the xlr out. 

I love that the drive is really responsive to my attack as I dig in and the breakup point sounds like a real tube.

 

Here's a sound sample I did earlier

 

 

 

Wow! That sounds tremendous! Do you plan on using this live? I'm interested in seeing how your c4 matches upto the oc2 in live settings... I currently use a 3leaf octabvre mini for my octave solo'd and a C4 for synth stuff, but would love to free up the space (and funds) for a midi controller. Haven't got the bottle to try the c4 in its place though 

So I followed suit; I duplicated my patches and exchanged the power amp for the ampeg svt model. Still through headphones, but it's an indication!

It's made me realise that what I'd considered to be "tubeyness" on the Hx stomp version was maybe more bloated muddiness I was hearing. This sounds full-bodied without being bloated.

Struggling to find a good 810 IR, and it feels wrong to use an SVT model without one, but I'm currently using the Tyler Spicer Aguilar 112 IR and it sounds great through cans. Excited to go FOH on Friday with it!

3 hours ago, stewblack said:

Gigged with the Ampero last night. Not an effectsy kind of band so used it as a preamp with some compression and tone shaping, just using the power amp section of my amplifier.

In fairness the Barefaced cabs I used make anything sound great, but it really was remarkably good. Used the Squeezer comp and Ampeg pre and every note was even, punchy and crystal clear. Well, not exactly clear, as it had a bit of rough around the edges, but I could hear it clearly.

Impressed.

 

That's great to hear Stewblack! I tend to stick to either the orange head or tube Poweramp with no preamp. I may give the ampeg model a spin for the next gig! 🤔

Added a hotone soul press II, which will double up as a wah and expression pedal for the Ampero II once the TRS cable arrives.

Planning on using the soul pess to control a volume pedal on the ampero II, and do a sort of manual tap tempo tremelo. If it works the source audio tap tempo button will be going; the tap tempo trem on my C4 just doesn't tap in as you'd expect, and we don't use a click so it's a disaster to keep it in time!

The octabvre nearly went too, as the C4 does a fantastic impression of it! But I'll end up buying a controller with the proceeds to be able to go to that patch anyways, so may as well keep the 3 leaf!

That's a good shout! Strings made a MASSIVE difference on mine, the set that was on were awful!

The Aguilar tone hammer sounds good! I'm stuck between that and the tube power amp that's on there. Both sound great!

No cab and no IR mode are both really useful, too! You can turn the cab sim or IR off for 1 output, and leave it on for another. No doubt the helix will follow suit, but sure you had to use a send block to achieve that on the line 6 gear

39 minutes ago, stewblack said:

New update coming in the next couple of days. We get all the usual minor tweaks and fixes, but for us specifically there is to be an Aguilar Tonehammer.

Which is nice. 

I saw that on a Facebook group! Exciting, although I'll admit I've found great results just using the tube Poweramp on there...

I noticed it's listed as a drive, Id have thought it's be classed as a preamp! Hopefully they've modelled the whole thing and not just it's driven tones!

Intrigued by the no cab function as well... It'll be great if you can turn off the cab without having to run 2 paths to different outputs or use send blocks etc 🤞

Pedalboard edit no: 1264902

Removed tuner, ehx hotwax, and nux MLD pre amp and replaced with the hotone ampero II stomp.

Literally no reason for changing except gas and I really fancied the hotone unit! The NUX pre was fantastic, and I hadn't experienced any of usual issues. The hot wax has also become my favourite drive for bass, it's a brilliant pedal that's an absolute dark horse. If I didn't need the gated fuzz in the ultrawave, and all 6 presets in my C4 I think I'd have booted them instead of the hotwax!

On 09/04/2023 at 14:35, stewblack said:

A dual foot switch needn't be hugely expensive. Those videos have a lot of really useful advice.

Rehearsing with headphones is a bugger isn't it? Never translates - you have my sympathy.

 

Very true! I think I just need to learn to work within its limitations, a dual footswitch may be on the horizon...

If you could mix the customisation of the hx stomp (individual parameter assignments to footswitches, led colour changes, free reign with what goes on what path etc) and the form factor and sound quality of the hotone, it'd be the perfect unit!

I'll check those videos out soon, appreciate you linking them! I don't like the idea of spending another hundy on a controller though as you're into hx stomp XL territory, which has a lot more bass ready amps etc 🤔

Gigged it last night, and made the fatal mistake of building patches via headphones and expecting them to translate to live 😬...

Wasn't hugely impressed with the sound, but it's not exactly a fair test really... The touchscreen was far superior to use than anything I've experienced with the hx stomp in the past so that's a plus, but with a room full of wedding guests, I didn't really have time to re-jig everything

There was also a bit of frantic tapdancing going between patch and stomp mode, too. That'll take some working out 🤣

On 06/04/2023 at 08:26, stewblack said:

I have the Ampero footswitch to add two switches for greater flexibility in stomp mode. Adding those three pedals will give you a killer set up!

I was tempted to get the midi switch they do, but I've set up 4 patches and I seem to have enough with the 3! I have a couple of niggles, and a couple of things I need to suss but over all it sounds fantastic through headphones! Definitely sounds more "alive" to me than the hx stomp did (YMMV).

Incase anyone's interested, main niggles are...

1) The 6 effects on path A and 6 on B isn't every well thought out when splitting.

2) I HATE that I can't press two footswitches at once to turn one effect off and another on at the same time! It automatically scrolls through banks with no way of changing that I can see!

3) As intuitive as the touch screen is; I'd have liked an effects screen layout similar to the hx stomp XL and Helix LT!

8 hours ago, stewblack said:

Yes I use it. It isn't without its limitations - but then all pedals have those. 

I have to say it remains the easiest pedal to set up without recourse to a computer or tablet. It has fantastic effects and a couple I feel could be better - specifically the octave up and pitch shifts can be wobbly and pitchy. 

The touch screen is great, the overdrives, fuzzes, filters, modulation, compression and amps sound great. Don't use the cab sims so can't say. 

I've finally got the software to work  on the PC and it's fine, intuitive.

I owned the Helix  and I don't know if the Ampero is definitively better, because personal taste comes into it so much.

I've gigged with it as part of a pedal board and as a standalone. It's great as a stomp with the additional 2 button footswitch.

I think it's great, but I haven't used it as much as other people might have because I'm a pedal board butterfly and keep changing up.

 

 

Thanks for the detailed response! 

I'd read some of the pitch effects were poor, luckily that's not the aim for me... I'm mostly looking for good amp/cab sims and convincing drives (as I plan to ditch the amp and go FOH and IEMs) with access to filters and modulations for future requirements. More bass amps would've been nice, but too much choice on the hx stomp always hindered me, so one nice amp sim should hopefully work a treat!

I plan on integrating it with my C4 and ultrawave, and analogue octaver in the effects loop. Do you use any sort of external controller with yours?

On 03/01/2023 at 15:22, stewblack said:

Well I've given up on getting the pc editor to work. Luckily enough the pedal is simple and intuitive to adjust on the unit itself and of course by learning to do this I can easily make changes at a gig.

NYE I set up a couple of rows of effects in parallel with some always on and five switcheable. Sent this out to two amps with the always on effects going to both and others going exclusively to the 'treble' amp.

The big success story was the envelope filter. A beautiful bubbly, watery sound coming from one amp and the bottom end still solid and unaffected. Very impressed. The others need more work, I want to find the perfect phaser, the perfect chorus, and the overdrive was a bit fizzy for my taste.

However, I'm impressed with the unit, certainly happy to gig it as a simple uncluttered option.

Thread resurrection! 

Do you still use your Ampero 2 @stewblack?  I'm thinking of one of these instead of the HX stomp... I like the idea of the touch screen and reports of better sound quality.  Just wondering what your take is after a few months?

7 hours ago, Chienmortbb said:

Strange, you get a linear sound from a logarithmic or nonlinear pot.

Not sure what language you're even speaking at this point! 🤣 For the more simple folks (like myself) they exchanged the notched volume control for a normal non-notched control. There was a big volume jump between notches 2 and 3...

6 hours ago, BassAdder60 said:

Orange LBT is indeed a great amp 

Very loud 500w and in my opinion a nicer tone compared to the Terror series 

Unbelievably loud! I found between notches 2 and 3 it went from too quiet to too loud, spoke to Orange though and after a bit of protest from Andertons, Orange changed the control out for a linear pot under warranty. Fantastic sound and fantastic service to boot!

I'd throw the orange little bass thing into the mix... different sound to the terror bass, and sounds huge (not just for it's size).  500W and I never have it above 9 o clock.  Orange customer service can't beat either. Adjustable mid freq, and the most musical signal knob compressor I've used that really adds weight and warmth.

As previously mentioned, you're unfortunately going to get nothing but peoples preferences here (mine included).  If it's any help, I've had ALOT of amps before landing at the little bass thing, some highlights were:

Aguilar TH500, lovely warm tubey character with natural sounding saturation. Although I find the Little bass thing to sound a bit "fuller".

Mark bass LM Vintage 1000, great big warm tube tone, sounded great with the gain pushed - Loved this tonally as much as I love my Little bass thing, but there were QC issues.  

GK 700/1001RB-II - Discontinued, but available used - Relatively heavy A/B heads, sound huge with more "heft" than you can shake a stick at.. I found the 1001RBII a bit too clinical for me, but the 700RB sounds legendary pushed!  My 1001RBII lasted 15 years heavily gigging before having issues (which resolved them selves anyways).

Hope this helps!

Le Bass sold

Cioks still available

1 hour ago, dmc79 said:

There’s also a Two Notes Le Bass for sale currently. There’s nearly always someone selling a Preamp/DI box here 

 

 

Thanks for the shout, pal!

Preamps can feel like a bit of a minefield, the Le bass is a great choice but as mentioned, for what you're looking for you're spoilt for choice really  🙂

Appreciate the input everyone!

We're looking at the RCF Evox 12s, the HK Polar 12s, and the Electro Voice EV 30M at the moment, pretty varied prices and the new drummer is insisting 12s won't be enough subwise, but these systems all seem awesome!

56 minutes ago, jimmyb625 said:

The RCF 745 gets some really good feedback from people on here. You may be able to use them without a sub,depending on the size of the room you're playing.

They've also released the 945, which could be another consideration?

I'll check it out, thanks for the shout! 🙂

31 minutes ago, Dan Dare said:

Presumably, your replacement drummer will have transport, so that's three vehicles (unless he carries his kit in a Smart car). A PA cab in each and sub in the other should be doable. You won't necessarily need two subs if you do decide to replace the Alto. It's surprising what a good quality single 12" sub can do. I often use just one of mine with 10" top boxes and it's ample for surprisingly large rooms. Your existing top boxes are 12s, so they can perform some low end duty. It doesn't seem you'll gain much by replacing them with larger 15s. Three smaller boxes - one in each vehicle - will probably be a more practical proposition.

New drummer's car IS the second car 😬

Replacing the alto seems like the easiest option (it's an awful flubby sounding thing). Out of interest, which sub do you use?

10 minutes ago, colleya said:

We swapped our Alto sub for an RCF 702 sub. 12" speaker, sounds great and is significantly smaller & lighter.

 

I get the full PA and my rig in an Octavia estate with room to spare and the passenger seat free too. Cavernous cars.

Do you just use the one sub?