DaveMuadDib

Replacing my increasingly elaboarate pedalboard with a zoom B2 (soon to be B2.1u) was one of the most liberating experiences of my life. Having to dance sideways on the thing to mute'n'tune is not. Looking at the footswitch add-on that zoom sell, it looks a bit plasticy, cumbersome and cheap compared to the solid build of the Zoom. Are there any alternatives that will work with the zoom? I only want it to access the muted tuner!

Thanks for all the advices guys! I'm in a rush now but I'll take this all in and digest over the next few days, but I think it's a safe bet sticking with the TC avenue. I want a 2x10, but my main dilemma now is whether to stick with the 2x12 or get a 1x12 instead... I'm thinking the full 4 driver stack is the one though, even though it's uber overkill

Ok guys, now that I've got my Orange Terror Bass head (and I'm loving it!) I'm finding myself at a bit of a loss for what cabs to go for for my all purpose rig. I'm very inexperienced, have little means of trying stuff out, and I would GREATLY appreciate your wealth of knowledge with this one! At the moment, I want a TC Electronic 2x10 to go with my 2x12 and the way I see it, 90 times out of a hundred, I'll gig with the 2x10 on its own, and if I need to backline or am playing a particularly large venue, I can use the double whammy and it's job done. But that got me thinking - should I sell the 2x12 and get the nice little 1x12 instead? This will give me the flexibility of a dinky matching cab, and if I'm not mistaken, if it's added on to the 2x10 it'll still give me all the power I'll conceivably need. But now my buddy Gaf is playing around with small, loud and very TCesque sounding (to my ears, anyway!) Barefaced cabs, I'm thinking that maybe the Compact/Midget combo is the way to go! But now that I'm using an Orange head, I'm also tempted to go the whole hog - maybe down the isobaric cab route. The 2x10 looks awesome and some of you guys have raved about it, but I'm worried that it'll be way too vintage sounding for my liking (at the moment, I've got a nice "hybrid" of vintage and modern with the TC 2x12) not to mention that it's just so TINY! Could I really use that little thing as my full gigging rig??? Or if I wanted to augment this little cab (maybe with the orange 2x12 isobaric? or another 2x10) would THAT even be enough to compare with my proposed modular TC rig? I've had 3 hernias, so I need to keep things as light as possible, so 4x10s etc are kinda outta the question. Bare in mind that I'm soon to become a poor student, so this rig kinda needs to be "the one" if possible What do youse guys reckon?

[quote name='algmusic' post='895271' date='Jul 15 2010, 01:11 AM']Thanks for that.. I've noticed you're looking for a 210.. maybe you should be looking at the orange sp210. I love mine. Everytime, I gig it, I turn heads[/quote] I've thought very seriously about it, but I think it'll be a little bit too vintage sounding for my liking. I've already got the 2x12 for the bottom end (and it sounds mega with the OTB!), and I think the matching TC RS210 would be the perfect compliment for that extra option in flexibility and that extra bit of punch when running a full rig. I'm suspecting the 210 and the Orange will be my holy grail for flexibilty... I really need to try the orange isobaric!

+1 to the TERROR - Just picked one up today and I love it already! Seems like it does only do one sound, but it's a reasonably pliable sound (if that makes sense) and it sounds to my ears to be a great sound for gigging with. Warm, clear, BASS sounding, and I imagine it'll have plenty of cut-thru in a band situation. I loved my little mark ii, but it was just clean within an inch of its life and lacked any kind of character to my ears. The orange seems right just out the box! I'll post in more detail when I've gigged it, but my initial impression is don't pass it by

I'm still hunting for my ideal rig, and at the moment i'm on a collision course with an orange bass terror and rs212/rs210 stack, which I think will be awesome. But in my travels, i've seen that tc do a combo amp, which seems essentially to be their RH450 crammed into the RS210 cab, and the pricetag seems to suggest nothing less. Has anyone had any experience with this piece of kit? Would it be worthwhile going for one of these and coupling it with the rs212 for a full rig, or would I be losing out somehow? Obviously, i'd be losing flexibility and changeability, but it'd be so cool to have my amp built into my cab :-D This is all hypothetical of course, as i'll probably stick with the orange, and if anyone is selling an RS210 let me know!! But it's worth considering down the road

[quote name='Musicman20' post='889663' date='Jul 8 2010, 04:37 PM']Ive rehearsed 'loudly' at full gig volumes with the RS210, then the RS210 + 212. The RS210 did a LOT on its own I must say. The RS210+212 sounds fantastic to me. If you want a more full low mid and want to move a little more air, 2 x RS212 would be the best choice.[/quote] Very reassuring! I'm 100% convinced now that an RS210 is the way to go. If the current consensus is that the TC cabs are designed to match up with each other, then I completely don't see any reason not to. Thick bass down below, but punchy up top where you need it - perfect! And I'd also have the choice of two different cabs to gig or practice with solo, rather than just two of the same. It's a winner!

[quote name='machinehead' post='888852' date='Jul 7 2010, 07:44 PM']Agreed. But if it were me, I would buy another identical cab - the RS212. That's got to be better than mixing it with an RS210? Also, aren't the cabs the same size as well? Frank.[/quote] The 212 is quite a bit deeper than the 210. I was tempted to go down the double 212 route, but the extra bit of tightness that a 210 provides, coupled with the cab being that much more portable than my current 212, outweigh the mismatch in my eyes!

Thank you to everyone that has replied! After much deliberation, my current school of thought is coming back to my very first original one - to go for the RS210. I already love my RS212 and I think the 210 would be the perfect compliment. The 212 cab is already portable enough for my liking, so the 210 should be a breeze. And it's always wise to match up, as most of you have already said. RS210 it is. Anyone selling one? :-) One more question - is this going to be enough to gig with, backline, and cut through? Could I risk parting with my current 4x10?

I'm currently using a TC Electronic RS212 as my cab of choice, and if I absolutely must, I run through my Peavey 410tx as well to give it a whole bunch more oomph, and this is quite comfortable for backlining. Shame is, the 4x10 ways a friggin ton, and it's huge, but it pushes air. I've heard great things about Barefaced, and I might possibly be able to get my hands on a Compact (via a certain GASeous entity who is most definitely reading this post ), and failing that, I might consider buying one brand new, because they're so goshdarn... Compact! But my real question is - coupled with the TC 2x12, is the (no-tweeter) Compact *really* any match for my 4x10, and could I afford to sacrifice this monster and not have to worry about backline gigs? Has anyone ever tried this exact combination? For the record, my amp is a Markbass Little Mark II, but it will soon be an Orange Terror Bass 500. It would have been yesterday, had the one that arrived not been a brick :-/

Ok, I've been using a Zoom B2 as my pedalboard for a while. It's absolutely tiny, and absolutely awesome. There's just one problem - everytime I plug it in, I have to switch to "Control", then use Dial #3 to turn the master volume from "80" to "1.0" (100). There doesn't seem to be any way to get it to remember this - "Store" only remembers individual patches. Is there any solution?

Well, I got one in the post today from DV247 - excellent service! However, the head is a brick Doesn't switch on at all, no fan noise, no LED, nothing. It's just typical for everything that I embark in to go horribly wrong lol. I've dropped them an email, so hopefully they should get it sorted and swap it out asap. Can't say it's hugely encouraging though!

[quote name='GarethFlatlands' post='885784' date='Jul 4 2010, 08:42 PM']You might as well keep some spares although they've don't blow like power tubes in my experience. It should be pretty bulletproof. I'm partway through Children of Dune, heard the ones after weren't great. Someone needs to make a really good film out of Dune! The David Lynch one is impossible if you've not read the book.[/quote] I once read here (I think) that tubes start to degrade almost immediately, but I don't know if this was after production or after they're installed. Children of Dune is a great novel, a fantastic end to the trilogy. Admittedly, God Emperor of Dune is a little bit long-winded, and this is where most people get lost and give up. But stick with it, it gets good towards the end, and it all makes sense with Heretics of Dune after that (my favourite book in the entire series, if not EVER) and Chapter House Dune is excellent too. Apparently they ARE making a new movie, but I'm not holding my breath for it to be any good. I love the Lynch movie so much, even if it is a bit :wacko:

[quote name='Lfalex v1.1' post='885424' date='Jul 4 2010, 12:59 PM'](I'm currently reading "Paul of Dune", having read all the others so far!)[/quote] It's the only book in the series that i haven't read - I've even read the Dune Encyclopedia! As much as I really did like the new dune novels, i'm not entirely sure that i can forgive the authors for crowbarring their robot characters into the series finale as marty and daniel - who were very clearly described as face dancers in chapterhouse! - and then quite literally dropping a deus ex machina final ending on us :-/ How are you finding Paul so far? I will have to give it a read at some point...

[quote]Without looking at specs and stuff, I would suggest that the standby is just a "Mute" as you suggest. My old Trace SMX is the same. Generally, amps with [u]power[/u] valves (rather than preamp ones like yours) have an [b]on/standby/off[/b] switch instead. Check your manual- you may find it may mute the DI out also.[/quote] There is a single switch on the OTB which goes off/standby/on from top to bottom, rather than a separate power on/off and standby on/off. I think you're most definitely right. So being that it's just a preamp valve, there's no need for me to wait for it to heat up, etc? [quote]Valve life varies. My first 12ax7 in my Trace lasted a year. The second has lasted since - well over a decade. My first went microphonic- picked up all the vibrations in the air, and howled along in unison. If the OTB has a blendable solid-state/ valve preamp, just turn it to 100% solid-state until you can replace them.[/quote] I don't think the OTB has anything fancy like a blendable power amp, as far as I can tell it just has Gain and Master Volume! But I'll consult the manual when the thing arrives tomorrow. [quote]12ax7s aren't expensive. Less than £15 each.[/quote] VERY reassuring. Is it worth keeping spares, or are they the kind of thing that start to age as soon as they leave the factory and I'd be better off buying them as-and-when? [quote]Class D amps are lightweight, switched power supply amp stages. Common applications? Lightweight bass amps!! Car stereo head units also. Class D as opposed to class A (Tubes, by definition, though transistor devices can run in Class A) Class A/B, Class B, Class C (used in megaphones, apparently) All to do with current/voltage consumption and the linearity of the resulting stage (blah blah- wiki it!!!)[/quote] Gotcha. I'd had a quick peek at the wiki, but the articles I read didn't go into much from a bass perspective I always assumed "Class X" was about the quality of components rather than the actual fundamentals of the thing. Maybe there's a slight correlation, but meh [quote]Rebiasing: Not a concern for you, as pre-amp valves don't need re-biasing.[/quote] Unlike most of my technological endeavours, it's reassuring to know that at least ONE element is just plug and play! [quote]Phew! Hope that helped![/quote] It certainly did, thank you very much for your reply! [quote]Edit for handling advice; Dont get any sand in it. Keep it away from sandworms, as rhythmic vibration attracts them. Nice username, BTW![/quote] I must not fear; fear is the bass killer :-) You see, this is the exact reason that I have this username, because it always warms me deep inside when people comment on it. It helps remind me that there really are people out there who know what I'm talking about, and that everyone is not just reading about wizards that go to wizard school, or emotional vampires that don't bite people or remotely abide by any of the rules of vampirism. Kull Wahad! ;-) -Dave (Note to Harry Potter/Twilight fans: Don't get angry - get a copy of Dune :brow: )

Ok people, I've got an Orange Terror Bass head in transit at the moment and according to their website: [quote]Maintaining the size of the original Tiny Terror, the Terror Bass is a 500 watt hybrid amplifier with a Class D solid state power section and the AD200B twin-valve 12AX7 preamp. Note: The Bass Terror does not require rebiasing when replacing tubes.[/quote] I've never owned a valve amp before, so I really wanted to know how much care should I take with it? It's not like I'm playing volleyball with my current solid state markbass head or anything, but do I need to wait for the valves to cool down before I move it, etc? What situation should I ACTUALLY use the "standby" mode for, or is this effectively just a mute? And how much use would I be expected to get out of it before I had to replace the tubes? How would I know when it's time to replace? Is replacing the tubes expensive? Also - what do they mean by "Class D"? And is the preamp really the same as the AD200B (their all-valve head)? What does rebiasing mean? Please help me

[quote name='Low End Bee' post='883847' date='Jul 2 2010, 12:11 PM']Hi Dave. I see from your signature tou've got a TCRS212. I play my Terror through and RS210 and an RS112 and it sounds glorious. The TC cabs are a very good match to my ears,[/quote] :wub: That's exactly what I wanted to hear!! And that's exactly the rig I want! PLEASE don't make me buy an RS210 just yet! I'm skint enough as it is In your opinion, does the Terror -> RS212 pack enough punch for most conceivable live situations? I'm hoping these two will be my best friends for the next few years... EDIT: D'OH - in a rage of GAS, I misread your RS112 as an RS212. My bad! But my two main points of consideration are RS212+RS210 or RS212+RS112

[quote name='Dubs' post='883748' date='Jul 2 2010, 10:20 AM']+1 Played quite a few gigs with mine now and I think I've only used the DI once, and no comment was made on it being hot. TBH, a lot of venues will get you to use their DI rather than the DI on the back of an amp unless you specifically ask to use your own - just my experience.[/quote] This is where my inexperience shines through - I've traditionally either been a rig-leach or just plugged straight into the PA or just let the sound tech sort it out :-D [quote name='Dubs' post='883748' date='Jul 2 2010, 10:20 AM']Get the OTB now!! You wont regrett it [/quote] Done [quote name='Sibob' post='883778' date='Jul 2 2010, 10:40 AM']My OTB is awesome, love it, but when I'm going through a PA, I'll just use my Sansamp in front of it. Take the DI from the sansamp and run the parallel out (dry out) to the Orange for my onstage sound. This way it acts in two ways, I have seperate control of tone onstage and out front, one doesn't affect the other, plus if for any reason my amp dies....I still have a FOH signal.[/quote] I totally can't afford a SansAmp at the moment (especially now!!), as much as I would love one, but that sounds like a great idea - it's gone straight to the top of my xmas present list.

[quote name='yorick' post='883735' date='Jul 2 2010, 10:11 AM']I do most of my shows with my OTB, and some sound guys have said the DI of the amp is quite hot, but a DI box usually sorts that out. Others haven't had a problem. I guess they just pad it on the desk...... If you can get up to Brum, you can try mine out.[/quote] Much appreciate the offer, but I've just gone and bought one anyway, haha! I'm sold, it sounds awesome from the clips I've heard, and everyone is raving about it. I've also picked up the 40db attenuator from studiospares just incase it proves to be handy. 7 quid delivered(!) Now I've just got to shift the Little Mark II in some vague attempt to afford this

[quote name='gafbass02' post='883794' date='Jul 2 2010, 10:57 AM']Hah hah. Sorry Dave, That was an expensive pint for a guy that only drank soda water! ! But I'm sure it's the amp for you :0)[/quote] Have a look at the list of gear in my signature and tell me how much of this expenditure you are not directly responsible for? Bad Gaf! :-) haha, well yeah, thanks for your advice everyone, there's one on its way to me now. Gaf - Try and keep yourself free on Monday/Tuesday evening (with any luck...)