the boy

[quote name='brensabre79' timestamp='1336656717' post='1649003']
Oh please, give it a rest already
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Agreed. I couldn't help myself.

[quote name='KiOgon' timestamp='1336653141' post='1648930']

Shouldn't you be at school?
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Anth and I completed a successful trade today. It went very smooth. He is a decent bloke fear not and trade with confidence.

You're the one whos on the high horse buddy. Quoting me insinuating that I'm somehow inferior, and suggesting I save my pennies. I'm not being a dick. If you don't own a fender then why do you even give a crap. I think you're out of line. I think you should apologise for calling me a dick. I think you are very mean.

That shouldn't be allowed. He's trying to pass it off as a real fender. Does he think we are all mugs. I mean we all know it's not a real fender but some other person who is not an expert like us might be duped into buying it thinking he's getting the real deal. We should report him.

[quote name='neepheid' timestamp='1336646844' post='1648797']


Picking up on the implication that we're somehow all at it (the accepted norm?) - I have only ever applied logos to two basses. One was a Hagstrom that I was restoring - it was a genuine Hagstrom and so I put a Hagstrom logo on it. The other was a Squier Precision. I modded it up and I wanted to have a laugh so I had a Fecker Imprecision Bass logo made in the late 70s style and applied that. I interpret the phrase "decal job squier" to mean one with a Fender logo applied to it and therefore I reject your hypothesis. I have never misrepresented the origins of a bass into something that could be used fraudulently at a later stage and I never will. I fundamentally disagree with the practice.

If you want a Fender, if you need to have that "prestige", then buy a bloody Fender. If you can't afford a Fender, then save up your pennies. But passing off a Squier (or whatever) as a Fender (which is what you're doing, regardless of whether or not you're upfront about it) isn't the way forward. In my humble opinion, of course.


Seems to be mostly a Fender problem. Should have used MOP inlays in black headstocks
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You are going straight to heaven buddy and when you get there Leo himself will present you with a guitar whittled from Jacos heavenly sh1t and strung from Phil lynotts Afro, but until that day you're just some dude I disagree with who owns a fender. Wow.

[quote name='TheButler' timestamp='1336602707' post='1648430']
Would these breach eBay's copyright or replica rules? It is a bit of a strange one, he is being [i]up front[/i] enough. He is also fully aware that a majority of folks just want something that looks like a Fender, how 'wrong' this is, is entirely subjective. The problem comes, as people have already said, when it is sold on... as a Fender. If you can't sell something that looks like a Rickenbacker, even though you never even use the word to describe it, I can't see how this act is so different?
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But squier basses are fender budget productions to the best of my knowledge there is no Ricky budget equivalent. If someone stuck a fender decal on a westone or a vintage or some other non fender related product I think that might be considered naughty, but fender logos on squier guitars is alright in my book.

This is like school.

Shilling is sneaky. I'm sorry I'm not with it today.
Fuzzy wuzzy. LOL

[quote name='Johnston' timestamp='1336588268' post='1648099']


http://basschat.co.uk/topic/175275-deals-outside-of-ebay/

Not on that thread it's not
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You've lost me mate. Pm me if there's something I need to know.

[quote name='Ou7shined' timestamp='1336585110' post='1648017']
I don't care what he's doing with these Squiers per se but he isn't exactly squeaky clean folks ... I've spotted a bit of nefarious selling/buying activity - namely a size 10 lady with a penchant for spray tan and hair extensions who likes to buy Squire basses off him every now and then (two in one day once) and leave glowing feedback....

... Maybe she puts Squier decals on them and sells them back to ebay.
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Ahh , the penny has dropped I see what you are saying now. Now that is naughty.

[quote name='KiOgon' timestamp='1336585527' post='1648033']


[color=#0000ff]My original reply to this thread was made with the intention [/color][color="#0000ff"]to notify the OP of the probable dubious nature of the bass in question but looking a little deeper I seem to have opened a can of worms.[/color]
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Lol. This is brilliant and it's free. Thank you basschat.

[quote name='Johnston' timestamp='1336584795' post='1648003']


Would you expect Thomanns to show you the EXACT bass going into the fictional Shopping basket.

As long as he is not representing them like using a picture of a good one and selling something that looks like it's been through a cement mixer. wheres the harm in using pictures of an identical bass. Lets face it how many of us could tell the difference between one unmarked Affinity and another?
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There's a big market for the cement mixer look.

[quote name='KiOgon' timestamp='1336583577' post='1647976']

Completely different scenario, show me one of the basses you're talking about - with duplicated serial numbers & being offered on ebay as something they're not, let alone using the same photo's & description to sell 'the same bass' several times over!
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That's not what he's doing, I think you are the one who "really doesn't understand". The guy is modding guitars and flogging them. It's no big deal. He's not pretending they are anything else other than squiers with mods. He's not selling the same guitar over and over again, they are all different. I really don't know what your problem is. These guitars are nice. He does a good job. More power to him.

[quote name='KiOgon' timestamp='1336581241' post='1647934']

You really don't understand do you?
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Enlighten me oh wise one.

[quote name='KiOgon' timestamp='1336580329' post='1647909']


What planet are you from?

There's only one *Norm* around here & he plays a Gold jazz mostly

What more can he do? How about go to prison for flooding the market with FAKES!
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Are you a cop? Not everyone can afford a gold jazz, also it's very few people can pimp a squier to make it look like something they aspire to own. This guy fills a gap in the market. I've done the maths on a few of his conversions and he isn't making any money here, and youd be hard pushed to mod the squier any cheaper yourself.
What planet am I from? Really? Come on now let's not loose the run of ourselves here.

I'd buy a guitar off him.

[quote name='Ou7shined' timestamp='1336579158' post='1647872']
I don't get it.

He seems to buy them up off the bay for anything under £100, tarts them up into "Fenders" and then puts them back on the bay as Squiers but "not Fenders" for a little bit more than what he paid for them gross. Putting the ethics aside for one moment... he's making hardly any money out of it.

The only thing I can think of is, he's a money laundering bass player on a one man mission to reduced the number of genuine Squiers in the world.
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Lol this place cracks me up.

[quote name='Ou7shined' timestamp='1336579158' post='1647872']
I don't get it.

He seems to buy them up off the bay for anything under £100, tarts them up into "Fenders" and then puts them back on the bay as Squiers but "not Fenders" for a little bit more than what he paid for them gross. Putting the ethics aside for one moment... he's making hardly any money out of it
Lol, this place cracks me up.

The only thing I can think of is, he's a money laundering bass player on a one man mission to reduced the number of genuine Squiers in the world.
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The neck is all parts I think the question is over the body, and like I said id be surprised if it wasn't legit as the guy selling it is a decent bloke based on dealings I've had with him.

[quote name='KiOgon' timestamp='1336574637' post='1647764']


How can what he's doing be "above board"? He's selling basses with fake decals & serial numbers, I know he's not the only one but the fact that he doesn't claim they're not Fenders don't make it any more right!
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I would be very surprised if a single contributor to this sight hasnt at some stage owned a decal job squier. It's widely accepted as the norm. It clearly says squier in the title I really don't see what's the problem is. He is selling a squier guitar and he says it's a squier. What more can he do.

It's an Obvious squier and the seller admits it in the title. He sells loads of these pimped up squiers. It looks to me like he does a pretty decent job as well. I've contacted him about other guitars before and he makes no bones of the fact they are modded. I think he's above board.

I'd be very surprised if this wasn't legit, I've had dealings with Dave from bluebass (the seller) and he is sound. 100% reliable and honest in my opinion.

[quote name='jackhammer' timestamp='1336489295' post='1646325']


If not being willing to write a book every time I see something on eBay and think 'ooh that's a bargain, I don't want it, but someone on basschat might' is pathetic then so be it!
it was simply a post to note a bass that is fairly popular and when I saw was at a good price.
also it wasn't that I disagreed with it, it was the patronising 'it's your bass and we all know it' post that annoyed me, as it isnt my bass I was simply doing what I thought this part of the forum was for
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Come on now let's drop it and move on. It was a bit confusing that there was no other content on the OP. I'm sure noone intended to upset you or insinuate anything derogatory was going on. Life's too short for getting peed off. Thank you for bringing an overpriced 2nd hand guitar to my attention.

[quote name='Shambo' timestamp='1336152586' post='1641884']
back from the dead....

I searched katana and this came up. Rather than make a new thread, I thought I'd add it here, just because they don't come up very often.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Fender-Katana-Bass-precision-p-jazz-rare-Japan-made-Squier-collectable-vintage-/150807953962?pt=UK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV&hash=item231cdac22a
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The guy selling this is our old mate shippers the "Swansea sander" he has relaunched his career under an assumed identity. Nice guitar though it was probably nicer before he had a bash.