Linus27

[quote name='Musicman20' post='1345471' date='Aug 19 2011, 02:15 PM']Was you using the Shuttle 6.0 with the bass on the Ray full? I know weve discussed this before but if you put the bass on full with a Ray, say through the Rh450/750, Streamliner, or LM3, it really is insanely bassy. The Shuttle 3.0 and 6.0 have a hi pass filter so they dont damage the small cabs/speakers they are mated with when it comes to the combos. Obviously you can dial up bass etc, but it might be why you can go full tilt with it....although some people might just do it anyway! [/quote] I never really used the Ray with the Shuttle 6 or 9. The Shuttle 6 I only used my Precision with really and a little playing at home. The Shuttle 9 is even newer and has not been out of the house. I have only just started to use the Ray since getting the MB combo. I kind of new what tone could be had from the Ray as well as the general feeling that the MB gear works really well with a Ray but I had no idea how to get that tone or how the 2EQ preamp in the Ray worked. I do now though

Thanks everyone, a great help as per usual. My Shuttle 9 has 110/240 volt selector switch on the back so I could get away with just that but it would be nice to use the MarkBass gear. At least I know its possible.

[quote name='stingrayPete1977' post='1345381' date='Aug 19 2011, 01:02 PM']Nice clips Linus I have just done a gig in the park for the people queing for coaches for V festival and used the 1x12 cab and Im not sure it can take the bass on full that I advocate to everyone else When I use the 2x12 or even my old Ashdown rig they can produce all those lows nice and tight, the Genz 2x12T is an amazing cab in that respect but it get quite farty using this new 1x12 so the next time I use it I will try running the bass flat (or whatever on the indent may or may not mean) and see how it sounds. The Ampeg fans would probably like it but for a phat but smooth bass its not doing it. Anyone using a 2x10 or smaller cab set up will probably have similar issues trying to run flat out boosted bass but for those who say its unusable what you mean is you have not got a rig that can take it [/quote] Groovy, thanks Pete. So it looks like I am sorted. A pretty much flat setup which thankfully sounds great also. Thanks again everyone. Amazing input and what a great discussion we have all had. I have certainly learnt a hell of a lot and more importantly, found a way to finally use my Stingray. Only taken about 13 years

[quote name='Musicman20' post='1345308' date='Aug 19 2011, 12:04 PM']Agreed. Usually I think things look small, then I order one, and its larger than I expected and defeats the object. My RS210 is quite small (ish) so I think the Club cabs or NY cabs would be my best bet.[/quote] Yes and why I might go for two traveller cabs as they are a bit bigger and more in line with the size of my Aggy GS112 which they would replace. For small gigs then the combo would be fine.

Ok, may seem a silly question but not being so clued up on this I thought I better ask. It says on the MarkBass website that, Markbass amps/combos are manufactured to be sold and used in the country of purchase, and they are factory preset to that country’s voltage. Due to homologation issues, the voltage may not be changed. So if I have some gigs in say Italy or Germany, can I not use my MarkBass Combo or LMIII head or is there a way around it?

[quote name='Musicman20' post='1345300' date='Aug 19 2011, 11:57 AM']None of the combos have a tweeter control, but I think all of seperate cabinets do. I would like a very small light 1x12 for my current band, but no idea if ill actually go for it. At the moment, the PA monitors do the same thing if I use a DI pedal.[/quote] Ok cool, thank you. I would not say the CMD112H is small or light although compared to what combo's used to be then it is If you want small then maybe a Club or NY 12" and a seperate head would be better.

[quote name='51m0n' post='1345293' date='Aug 19 2011, 11:52 AM']The main melody vocal and backingvocals/chord changes reminds me of Zepplin a bit - may be going mad though ) Thats a compliment![/quote] Cool, thank you. Personally I have not listened to any Zepplin but the two songwriters may have done. I am more into Pearl Jam, Starsailor, Natalie Imbruglia, jazz and a big helping of 80's pop

[quote name='51m0n' post='1345274' date='Aug 19 2011, 11:40 AM']I wonder whether that grind on the full bass is actually the stingray preamp breaking up a bit due to the level its trying to produce. If the MB blue clip light is staying off then I would hazard a guess that that is the case. Could well be wrong though Either way its no bad thing if its a sound that works right for you in any given situation, in this one I preferred the tone with the bass on the preamp dialled down. Either way its lovely material, I'm sure it sounds fantastic live![/quote] Yeah the blue light is off as I have the gain only set at around 10 - 11 o clock and the volume is set at about 8 or 9 o'clock. As you can tell, its 3 acoustic guitars with only one very slightly miced up. Plus 4 vocals which non of them are miced up. Glad you like it, I might post up a couple more clips of different songs and see if you prefer the flat EQ over the bass boosted one.

[quote name='51m0n' post='1345134' date='Aug 19 2011, 09:38 AM']2nd track is a lot better for me, I'm surprised by how much actually, I listened through the first one and really enjoyed it, lovely song, beautifully performed in both cases. Back to the bass, the 2nd track is warmer and sits in the mix better, its lovely and strong, but round and plummy at the same time, really really dig it, very old school. I would say I can hear the odd clack of the strings against frets in both, thats just how you play, its cool though, kind of reminiscent of someone digging in a bit on a db. Its not that toppy nasty metallic click (at least not on my cans), so much as a nice rhythmic chacchtk (?) sound. Personally IMO you can not beat a little Tascam or Zoom type device in the room for this kind of attempt at objective analysis of a set up, if that means the bass is on the rhs of the recording, that fine, because, guess what, thats where the bnass was from the perspective of the device/someone standing where the dcevice was. Frighteningly honest those tools are, every band should have on and use it for this kind of documentation I think....[/quote] Thanks Simon, really glad you liked it. So the second track is the flat settings as posted below, Bass: 12 o' Clock (FLAT) Mid Low: 10 o' Clock Mid High: 12 o' Clock (FLAT) Treble: 12 o' Clock (FLAT) VLE Filter: OFF VPF Filter: OFF Stingray Volume: Full Treble: 60% Bass: 20% I also found this setting a lot rounder and seemed to have a more balanced tighter sound. When the bass was on full bass it seemed to go a bit growly which was nice but it lost that warm defined tone. HEHE I see you could here the clank. Something I have always struggled with on the Stingray although not so much now I have got somewhere with the tone. I spent 20 years playing guitar punk pop with a pick and used to play very hard, breaking strings quite regular. Now I play with fingers, I have had to really work on playing gently and not digging in so hard but occasionally I still do At least it does not sound that bad then Thanks for listening.

[quote name='JTUK' post='1345045' date='Aug 19 2011, 07:13 AM']2nd track is far better. But how it went down onto 'tape' and how it sounded out front may be two different things[/quote] Ok, so thats the flat sound then. I must admit, the first track with full bass sounded fatter naturally but with a lot more growl to the ears but also a bit over bassy at times.

[quote name='Prime_BASS' post='1344997' date='Aug 18 2011, 11:54 PM']I guess second one is flat... But like you said apples and pairs. The difference comes in when the little melody line comes in. I prefer the second in that respect. My personal opinion is that that kinda of music is best suited to a phat warm P, but that's just me. Could you not have centered the bass track? I can't seem to hear it in my left, I would have also turned the guitar down a bit, but again like you said rough recording. With the guitar turned down a bit the lower end of bass maybe more audible, but this may not be a true representation of how the band sound loud at a gig.[/quote] Yes you are correct in the second one being flat No way to centre the bass track or turn guitar down in mix as this was just a digital recorder stuck in the room with record pressed so no more technical than an old tape recorder I also picked that track as it was the least complicated bass line with lots of space to let the notes be heard. I did start on a Precision and some songs it worked well on but I found the more intricate bass lines seemed to get a bit lost and the MarkBass and Precision combo did not marry up so well tonally. I will try again at some point.

Never really been a RHCP fan although I do like a couple of songs and adore the song Aeroplane but I did really like that song. I thought the drums sounded amazing and the bass was groovy also. The thing that annoys me about RHCP is they have never matured and still jump around like they are 16 and think its cool to do. Just wish they would strip away also the gimmicks and sillyness and take themselves seriously for once. Good song still.

[quote name='Hobbayne' post='1344942' date='Aug 18 2011, 10:37 PM']Has anyone had any experience with these strings?? - I normally use Elites, but I fancied a change and there was a good deal on amazon so I er...! [/quote] Blimey, you read my mind, I was just about to ask the same question on here as I use Elites but wondered what the stock Ernie Ball strings are like, especially as the medium gauge strings come with a 45 for the G string. Will take a punt on these also but have used Elites for over 20 years so might be hard now to change brands.

Ok, so here are two live recordinsg of a couple of song from tonights rehearsals. Not going to say which is which but both MarkBass combo and both the same Stingray. To be honest, I don't think there is much in it and that much noticable in overall tone. Just sounds like bass to me but then again it is recorded on a little Tascam recorder so not the best setup. [attachment=87390:DR0000_0056_2.mp3] [attachment=87391:DR0000_0054_1_1.mp3]

[quote name='gerryc' post='1344579' date='Aug 18 2011, 04:50 PM']Don't I know it , you beat me to it by a couple of minutes. Just about to bag it and the bloody phone rang, by the time I'd got rid of the twat you'd got it. That emoticon is supposed to be here, today I will mostly be a F@*kwit.[/quote] HAHAHAHA sorry. Just to make it worse, I even waiting about an hour, had lunch, pondered over the idea and then decided to buy it A minute longer to ponder and you would had bagged it

[quote name='dave_bass5' post='1344510' date='Aug 18 2011, 03:29 PM']Welcome to the club. I had a few strips of platfoam before getting mine but threw them away.[/quote] Oh gggrrrrr

[quote name='MartyBRebelMC' post='1344555' date='Aug 18 2011, 04:22 PM']I think the 12" driver NY121 is the same but the tweeter will be different to the one in the 121H combo[/quote] Ok thanks. The tweeter can't be adjusted in the 121H combo. Can it be adjusted in the NY121?

[quote name='51m0n' post='1344323' date='Aug 18 2011, 01:17 PM']Yes, and I think it would add to the effect as it goes, more foam = even less vibration based coupling. Should be a very cheap way to get your tilt on and improve on the already excellent GP.[/quote] Thanks Simon. I have now bought a Gramma pad

Do you think that a Gramma Pad plus an extra strip of Platfoam under the front to add as a tilt would work? I only use a MarkBass combo and have been looking at a tilt. I like the idea of this Gramma pad but it does not raise the combo up much. Adding another strip of Platfoam under the front to tilt it would be ideal but would it take away some of the effect the gramma pad does?

Another rehearsal tonight and will start off fully with no VPF filter and the last settings I posted above. I may also then try Pete's settings and go large with the bass on full on the Stingray. Either way I will record the sessions and may post some sound clips up to see what you think.

Yes and yes. The fretless is an ESP 400 series Jazz which I use all the time including gigs. I also have a Warwick and Stringray fretless. I also have a Washburn AB10 acoustic bass which I use at home but have not ventured out to a gig yet. I play in an acoustic band so it would work perfect but the G string is too quiet and a lot of my bass lines would loose out if the G string could not be heard. I do plan on getting this sorted, either by taking it to a luthier or trying a heavier guage string.

Great news Dave. When we last spoke I was a little worried that your gigging days were over so this is fab news. All the best with your new band and with you.