Mornats

Wow, they're £80 cheaper than anywhere else! I don't think I need the added volume just yet but I'd be interested in what it does for the overall sound. Plus I think it would look well cool sitting under my combo

If it's the version that's been out since the Mac App store opened then it is indeed good. The timestretch thingy in it is well worth it if you need to mess about with getting stuff in time with the rest of the track. Remember that you can get Logic Pro on the app store for the same price as they sold Logic Express at (£140) - well worth the money I reckon.

It's a little beast, I love it Glad you could make it down and I hope we didn't make you cringe at the mistakes we all made! I don't think I'll need the extension cab any time soon as I pretty much drowned out the PA today hehe.

Drop an email to Overwater and ask about them. I'm sure Chris or Lawrence will be happy to fill you in on the details. I suspect they're too busy with getting the new models out to get their website updated with the info on them.

Ah, but then I'd have to buy a mic and I'll be on here forever asking for advice on that one! I'll take a guitar lead out of the FX send to see how that works out and I'll grab a XLR to jack lead soon. Cheers for the help guys!

[quote name='CBbass' timestamp='1336413529' post='1645322'] "[color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]beloved 73' P bass. She's been with me for 23 years and was the first proper guitar my Dad bought for me when he realised I was really serious about being a bassist". [/font][/color][color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif] [/font][/color][color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif] [/font][/color] [color=#282828][font=helvetica, arial, sans-serif]Dude, at least consider not selling this. It's a decent bass with a huge amount of sentimental value. Money is money, it comes and goes. I'm almost certain you'll really, really regret this in 10 years time.[/font][/color] [/quote] +1

Well at band practice last night it sounded beautiful. Upping the gain on the tube preamp gave it a nice growl, it cut through fine and sounds nice and raw and natural. You pretty much get the bass' sound coming through the amp rather than the amp adding its distinct sound to it. At least that's my opinion And it's loud! Should be OK playing in the park today hopefully. We're on at around 2.30 or so. I'll be the guy with the Overwater bass who looks like he's shitting himself due to being quite unprepared for this gig!

I was chatting to the guy in PMT in Bristol about whether it's a good idea to trade in and even he advised me to sell rather than trade in. The shop has to pay VAT on the sale of the item so they have to knock that off the trade-in value. Plus they have to make some money off it so you're looking at at least 20% less than selling it privately (due to the VAT) plus whatever profit they want to make.

I want to try and record directly from my amp into Reaper. I use a Guitar Rig Session I/O as my sound recording device and I usually just plug my bass straight into it. If I want to record my amp - an Ashdown 220 Touring - what's the best way to go about it? It's got a DI out socket (one of the 3-pin types) and an effects loop send and return but no line out. Can I just get a cable to go from the DI into a guitar lead type plug so I can just plug it into my Guitar Rig interface? Cheers!

Well, I got to try the 220 Touring in both 15 and 12 inch versions and loved the tone of them. I preferred the 12" one (sparklier mids and highs imo) and bought that one. I also compared it to the EB-180 12" and a MAG 500 through a 1x15 and the 220 Touring's tone was by far the best. I would have liked the 330 Touring that they had but in all honesty, I'd never fit it in my car and I'd never be able to carry it anywhere. So if I need a bit more oomph I'll get a VS112 cab to go with it. As for reliability, the shop I got it from gives a 3 year warranty on top of the Ashdown 1 year warranty so hopefully this will be a decent one if anything goes wrong.

If it helps, I tried an Ashdown 220 Touring today in both 15" and 12" configurations. I found that the 12" gave clearer high mids and highs. They just rang out more to me, whilst the 15" seemed to have rounder lows and an overall rounder, bassier sound. I eventually walked out with the 12" version and am so far very happy with it. You should try it out sometime Pinball... or come hear it at 2.30 at the Nailsea Mayfair on Monday.

Finally! After many posts on here asking for (and receiving by the bucketload) advice on a new bass amp I finally got one. I popped into PMT in Bristol to try out a few contenders, mainly the Ashdown MAG 300 head and 2x10 cab (which they didn't have in stock). I had a go on the Ashdown EB 180 12", a MAG 500 head going into a 1x15 cab and the 220 Touring 1x12. I also listened to another customer going through the Ashdown 330 Touring with the same bass I used (a MIM Fender P). Out of all the amps, the Touring amps were by far and away the nicest sounding. A lovely natural, warm, and "true" (as the other customer explained it) sound. The EB and MAGs sounded a bit dry and processed in comparison. The retro styling looks great too. The other guy who was in there walked out with the 330 Touring after having tried a few amps, including one of their Peaveys. I know I have to do pics for you all so I'll get some done ASAP. Got band practice tomorrow and a short slot at our local funfair on Monday (which was a surprise to me!) so I'll let you know how it gets on. So far, a quick test at home has shown that it's pretty damn good. I've never had my Overwater J4 sound so good. So I'm one very happy bunny!

Hope you get an answer as I'm currently having a quick look at the Harley Benton and wondering whether the extra £300 for the Promethean will be a sound choice.

[quote name='BRANCINI' timestamp='1336132152' post='1641326'] My old Bass collection 301, which lives by the settee is still fine though. [/quote] I've never ever had to tweak an SGC Nanyo made Bass Collection ever, other than when changing string gauge or type (i.e. roundwounds that were on my fretless when I bought it were changed to nylonwounds). Or even have to retune one.

[quote name='51m0n' timestamp='1335365037' post='1629933'] Cutting just means turning down the volume at a specific frequency. See my eq graph, that would mean I'm cutting at points 1, 2, 4 and 5. Boosting is the opposite, point 3 on my graph. A parametric eq gives you three controls at each point, frequency, gain and Q (or bandwidht). Frequency enables you to choose the point you wish to alter Gain enables you to add or subtract (ie alter) the level at that point Q changes how steeply the eq curve is applied. A narrow Q effects a very small range of frequencies, a wide one effects a large range of frequencies. The human ear is very very adept at picking out narrow Q boosts, they sound extrememly unnatural to us. It is very bad at noticing narrow Q cuts. So in general try to boost with a wide Q, and cut with a narrow Q. When searching for the right frequency to cut, first boost an eq point by say 6dB, then sweep the freqency knob until you hear the area you dont like get louder, tighten the Q and home in on the area as best you can. Then reverse the gain, cutting until the issue is gone without leaving wany weird artifacts. Once you have cut all the crap out of a sound you can then apply gentle wide Q boosts whilst listening in the mix to a sound to get it to sit right, if necessary. This all takes skill and plenty of practice, and equally decent monitors. [/quote] Ok, just gone back and read everything. This. This is great, I'll give this a go myself. Also, here's how I EQ'd the bass on that track to give it more context.

I've ashamedly skimmed this post to just pop a graphic on to show the master track EQ that I used for this track: [url="http://soundcloud.com/mornats/rift-1"]http://soundcloud.com/mornats/rift-1[/url] just to show you the curves when I've trimmed the bass end. Sounds like 5imon has given you some grand advice though (which I do plan to read through myself when I've got a bit more time!) Not saying the mix is perfect on my track but you can hear the overall effect on the bass I hope.

If it's a MAG then you can get a brand new MAG300H Evo II for £226 ish from Thomann so it would be a bit steep.

Cheers! Just been over there and replied It's worth checking them out side by side but as I said in the other thread, I'm leaning towards the MAG option now. Just a case of finding a good deal!

Thanks for the info, and also for pointing out Walbassist's video (which I've just seen). It's a nice tone from that amp but maybe the tone I got out of the EB-180 I tried suited me better. I've got my Tanglewater going through a borrowed Laney Linebacker at the moment and I'm finding that I keep the EQ flat and leave any fancy knobs alone. I did like the compressor on the EB though which I know the Touring series lacks. I'd have to hear them side by side to get a true comparison but I am leaning more towards a MAG 300 head now, mostly due to the options I have with cabs plus the compressor on it. I'm off to my local PMT on Saturday hopefully so will see what they've got there.

Again, wise words which is why I've asked Anderton's if they'd price match. I forgot to add that Guy from Ashdown said one of the VS212s would match the MAG 300 head so that's still a possibility.

[quote name='Gordon 'Thudmaster' May' timestamp='1335911017' post='1638074'] [b]Hey Buddy! Would just like to say, If you can't pay cash, don't buy!!![/b] [/quote] Wise words! I'm in no rush really so could always wait until I have the cash. But interest free is quite handy at times... I got a rather speedy reply from Guy at Ashdown about the VS112s and he says (and I quote) "they're not man enough to handle the MAG 300 head" and I'm better off with the C210Ts that are specifically designed for it.

I've no idea why I didn't recommend Reaper myself, it's what I use all of the time for my recording. Bargain of the century, easy to work out the GarageBand to Reaper conversion and as Leon said, there's the "I didn't know it could do that" moments that you get all of the time. I'm confident to just google anything I need to do and there's always an answer there for it.

Yeah, I'd be a little worried about pushing it too far. I emailed Ashdown to see what they say about it all. [quote name='flyfisher' timestamp='1335889382' post='1637625'] I would stick with 8 ohm cabs. By the time 200W-ish into a 210 is not loud enough another cab will make more difference than another 100W into the same cab. [/quote] This sounds like the right thing to do. Just need to decide on the cab now. I've asked Anderton's if they'd price match the MAG300 + C210T bundle that Kenny's Music do (which is £100 cheaper than buying them separate from Anderton's) but it's a bit of an ask so I don't expect them to agree to it. Worth asking though!

Ooh, nice prices you found on Thomann. I've ordered a few things from them before and like their service. Aren't the VS112s rated at 125w? Would the 200w from the MAG 300 be a bit much for a single cab? Also, would 2 VS112s cope with 250w? i.e. you just double the power capability of a single cab if you have two? I'm not that experienced with separate amps and cabs so always need to ask.