LukeFRC

[quote name='Ancient Mariner' post='739436' date='Feb 8 2010, 09:33 PM']You should do a compressor - no bass player should be without a compressor.[/quote]

see ive played with compressors a wee bit, I'll be honest and say I've never seen a use for them for me.
this may be due to the random way I use my right hand but ive never seen what they add to my sound, often when using them i get annoyed with something changing the way the notes open out. maybe i'm talking rubbish here
feel free to educate me what use they should have!

[quote name='Big_Stu' post='737817' date='Feb 7 2010, 02:28 AM']The Gorbals is like Wester Hailes, Pilton or Granton but wi'oot the culture.[/quote]


hehehehehe


My gear is pretty good nick, not going to loose any sleep if I damage it playing though. They are tools, not works of art.

well it's a later one...


the screws on the back plate don't seem to be shiney, whereas the back plate is.
I have an early JV P and both the screws and the the plate are the same shineyness.

so... my thinking....

this is all in some kinda big box, hopefully small enough to fit in my gigbag....

some kinda OD, kinda like the look of the flipster
[url="http://www.runoffgroove.com/flipster.html"]http://www.runoffgroove.com/flipster.html[/url]
for a ampeg type sound. think that over something like Hjärt Müller, anyone here any experience of flipster?

then possibly into a fuzz of somekind which won't get used as much, either a big muff Pi or something...

then think may leave my building there and buy a cheap chorus to stick in or something.

am i missing anything out i would want to do?

okay... next question....

i still want to build at least one of the effects im thinking of putting in this box...
whats the negatives of taking cheaper dano or behringer pedals, which with some of them the main negative i hear is the plastic mountings, and remounting them in my box.
In effect all I would be doing was remounting the circuitry, I seem to remeber hearing that some of the dano pedals were very close copies of other things anyway?

this is what got me thinking to start with....

[url="http://moodysounds.com/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=1_15&products_id=216"]http://moodysounds.com/index.php?main_page...products_id=216[/url]

[quote name='Silent Fly' post='737210' date='Feb 6 2010, 02:08 PM']Very good questions...

[i]- do you all think it is worth the effort? [/i]
If you think it will be a hobby and you ready to invest time, a little bit of frustration and some lessons learned the hard way - it is definitely worth the effort. If you just need a pedal and you have no intention to continue, I am not sure.

[i]- buy a kit, or just buy the parts?[/i]
If you never built something before, a kit (the simpler, the better) is a good way to start. While you build your first pedals buy yourself a good book about electronics.

[i]- any suggestions/advice?[/i]
Take your time, pay attention to details and use good quality materials.[/quote]

thanks for the reply!

I have done enough little electronics projects in the past I don't think the learning curve would be too bad. Although my soldering and everything would be no way as neat and tidy as your work silentfly!
I think I don't 'need' a pedal but would like one. It would be more fun to build one, whether that is just a kit or just working out how to build something from a schematic.
Also I'm not a massive pedal head. If I made something, and did a reasonable job, it would likely satisfy my effects cravings, which is an attractive idea.

Are their any kits you would recommend?

edit... google is my friend

[quote name='umph' post='737115' date='Feb 6 2010, 12:46 PM']it's definatly worth the effort, its a bit addictive once you start though. I'd recomend you start off with a kit from [b]GGG or BYOC.[/b][/quote]

at risk of sounding stupid.... GGG? BYOC?

So every so often i daly with effects, I wanted to experiment with lots of things and bought a floor pod. It was good but we didnt get on so it got sold.
The only things I was using was a bit of OD, the odd chorus and the tuner.

I was looking on the internet and finding schematics for building your own pedals. A steep learning curve but technacally something I wouldn't be against doing.
I was thinking one box with a od, chorus and maybe something else in it. Tuner i don't think would be possible unless I bought a behringer one and went about stripping it down and mounting it in the new box. But these are all just thougts I had last night.

so, do you all think it is worth the effort?
any suggestions/advice?
buy a kit, or just buy the parts?

I feel the need to point out that James Jamerson didn't use a pick. Thank you, got that of my chest.


Until recently i had a line6 bass pod xt live. It was good, but I sold it as live I could never get it to sound right. I used it as a pre-amp into a few different power amps and something about it meant it didn't seem to respond to my playing quite how I wanted it too.
I think in an ideal world digital works. You plug your bass into a box with pedals to set what you want, this goes into the sound desk. perhaps some kind of foldback can go into the unit to give you a mixed signal for a monitor or headphones....
but i would replace the amp with a laptop to control the thing, to see what the sound was doing and knowledgeably control it... but then what is the difference between a bass and any other midi controller? surely even the bass player could be modeled?

As it is I bought two basses that I could plug straight into the sound desk with DI if I needed and they would sound good.

status have something similar, and music man used to

i just looked out your old posts in the bass porn section. I think you've held onto the good ones! (bar that amazing looking JD thumb)

My story....
My band are booked by our friends the promoters to play a surport slot along with another local band with a young singer songwriter from london making a bit of a name for herself.
Well on the day we turn up to find that
a) she got signed the day before and already has a massive rider so we are warned we may not get paid
she brought her own support band with her who need paid and hadn't told the promoter so we probably won't get paid
c) she isn't as big as she thinks she is and hasnt sold many tickets before hand, we should forget about money.
The promoter feels bad for us and the other local band and gets a big crate of beer between the two of us. There isn't a back stage at this venue, just a space beside the stage so we stash our gear and the beer there.
We then realise that her manager is putting chairs across the front of the tiny venue so people can sit down on them and on the floor to listen to her. We are told by her manager via our disbelieving promotter that we are supposed to try and encourage a calm atmosphere and get ppl to sit down.
Not going to work with the synth-art school pop we are playing, esp as we have got A LOT of our friends to this gig.
We play, everybody is in a scrum of dancing (we had a dance off and gave the winner a bottle of wine which she had downed within 2 songs!) and its a good gig. Her manager is annoyed and we have to clear all our gear out of the space beside the stage within 10 min of finishing (bare in mind there is no where else to put it, luckily I live literally 2 doors from the venue) we come back and to find we are told by her manager that we are only the support band so her band are keeping our beer.
so the moral is it's not just promoters see, he was on our side...... and be carefull or kate nash will steal your beer

My story....
My band are booked by our friends the promoters to play a surport slot along with another local band with a young singer songwriter from london making a bit of a name for herself.
Well on the day we turn up to find that
a) she got signed the day before and already has a massive rider so we are warned we may not get paid
she brought her own support band with her who need paid and hadn't told the promoter so we probably won't get paid
c) she isn't as big as she thinks she is and hasnt sold many tickets before hand, we should forget about money.
The promoter feels bad for us and the other local band and gets a big crate of beer between the two of us. There isn't a back stage at this venue, just a space beside the stage so we stash our gear and the beer there.
We then realise that her manager is putting chairs across the front of the tiny venue so people can sit down on them and on the floor to listen to her. We are told by her manager via our disbelieving promotter that we are supposed to try and encourage a calm atmosphere and get ppl to sit down.
Not going to work with the synth-art school pop we are playing, esp as we have got A LOT of our friends to this gig.
We play, everybody is in a scrum of dancing (we had a dance off and gave the winner a bottle of wine which she had downed within 2 songs!) and its a good gig. Her manager is annoyed and we have to clear all our gear out of the space beside the stage within 10 min of finishing (bare in mind there is no where else to put it, luckily I live literally 2 doors from the venue) we come back and to find we are told by her manager that we are only the support band so her band are keeping our beer.
so the moral is it's not just promoters see, he was on our side...... and be carefull or kate nash will steal your beer

[quote name='project_c' post='732250' date='Feb 1 2010, 09:25 PM']I'm really curious about how this will affect the future value of second hand Warwicks from the 90's? Does anyone think they will become highly collectable / sought after?[/quote]

depends when in the 90's, I guess the interesting ones will be pre 1991 or 1993 or whenever they moved factory or whatever it was.

all I know is that I have a lovely natural streamer (stage one) from 1991, it cost me £400 off gumtree last summer, is probably my number one bass and I'm not parting with it!


also which two are you down too Warwickhunt?

look in the 'bass' forum, there's a warwick thread and you can see how people are wanting a "Made in Germany" bass someday in the future.

I bet warwickhunt is waiting for the day when the desired models will say "made in West Germany"!

in a kinda justification of what I was trying to say I see they have divided their website up into
Made in Germany
PRO series made in Korea
and rockbass in china

Think about it from Warwick's perspective.
They have a good and well respected brand of well built german basses.
Then late 90's a load of nu-metal guys start using their stuff. This is good, to capatalise they start making stuff at cheaper price marks. Bolt on necks and the like.
Costs need to be cut so different woods, different neck shapes and so on.
The brand looses some of its reputation.
Nu-metal dies, ebay flooded by cheap bolt on corvettes. Prices secondhand plumit.
therefore sales of new stuff slow.
Does brand now fit key demographic of buyers? No, they are seen as 'good for metal' and have lost the 'good german quality' marque.

So what do you do? Make the necks smaller again, and put your prices up. Make them seem more 'exclusive', like the higher end makes.

Relaunch rockbass as slightly more expensive than it was, made in far east but no longer compeating right at the bottom of the market, but higher up. People will start on a squire and a rockbass will be the aspired upgrade. the german Warwick's... then are the holy grail.
The signature models, again have to be more expensive otherwise you devalue the brand in people's mind.
The actual cost of production is irrespective, do you really think the price of a USA Fender has much to do with how much it costs to churn them off the production line?

what year did fender start doing 3 tone sunburst on their P basses?

as a rule i hate these sorta youtube postings, but you have seriously impressed me with your videos, well done.
I like the way that as well as being technically great it's so musical too.

a fender, stingray and spector will all sound different. Sounds obvious but where it sits in the mix will affect what types of music you will play on it, or even how you play.

pretty sure they don't exist. could be wrong but don't think I am.

yawn, won't it be better when everyone gets out of their houses and goes back to work? folk get worked up being inside for so long!


i thought he would have been better off with a guitar really. Just cos you *can* do something doesn't mean you have too, i mean im sure i could use garageband and programme a lovely multi track midi version of the same song....

not sure if it's true but i was led to believe that moisture in a garage/shed etc would cause oxidisation on the coils of a speaker and wreck it....? true or false?