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Listen to the stuff. All the time. Real funk, uncut funt, the Bomb. Nothing later than 1980 counts if you want to understand real funk IMO. (Meshell is a real exception to this 'rule' IMO)

The one is everything.

I took a decision to really get into the funk in the biggest way I could around 97. I literally listened to the stuff all the time. Allow youself to walk down the street like Travolta whilst listening to PFunk's "P. Funk (Wants to Get Funked Up)". The gait you will walk with is the swing of laid back funk.

The one is everything.

Unless you want to get as technical as Rocco (Tower of Power) then space is your friend. Very few people really do pull off the TOP Rocco 16th note groove in a funky way - thats why hes so good. Stick to Bootsy style one-ness for months, whilst trying to get your fingers so fast they can play those sixteenth note grooves swung super hard and still sound relaxed.

The one is everything.

Dont slap at all until you have dispelled all 80's slapathonic nonsense from your system. Larry Graham Louise Johnson Bootsy. They are righteously funky when they slap. Mark King and even Flea aren't IMO, they may sound cool but they aint funky as a rule (and I am guilty or more so than the next man for copping their stuff).

This thread:-

[url="http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.php?t=314342&highlight=Funk+101"]http://www.talkbass.com/forum/showthread.p...hlight=Funk+101[/url]

Is gold dust.......

Oh, did I say, the one is everything.

Punchy, punchier, punchiest....

Just checked out the vid of Glitch - thats freakin mental!

For raw you are in the right area. Damned fine first effort too.

I think the snare ringing will get soaked up by guitar etc enough for it not to be a problem. It will end up just having character rather than being your typical snare with a crack like a builders a##e.

Toms may not be up to it I think, tuning is wrong as you said, they tend towards the muddy end. Some careful eq _may_ help look for more woody stick click. Its not all of them though, I think it might only be one that doesnt sound like its quite been tuned right (with itself if you know what I mean) its got a nasty low overtone buzz on it?), in which case thats a right pain and probably not fixable.

I think you will need to get a bit more punch and definition from the kick, there's some pretty quick stuff in there and it is going to easily get very lost with a bass in the mix too.

Definitely not a lost cause though.

Nice drumming, I have no idea what this will end up sounding like, reminds me a bit of Herb (Primus), which should make your drummer very happy indeed, cos Herbs a legend.

If you've learnt anything it should be to double, treble, quadruple check the acoustic sounds of every drum alone, quiet to loud and in context. Listen for extraneous kit rattling to, any thing sympathetically ringing or rattling is going to make compression and eq a nightmare!

Well done though.

Love Suck on This, Frizzle Fry, Sailing The Seas the it starts to go down hill for me...........

But he is at or very near the top of the list of my fav bassists of all time, and definitely my fav singing bassist.

Pop into GAK quite a lot. Its me local.

Spent way more money at BassDirect mind (damn Mark and his mischievous scheming ways to part me from my money - to be fair this consists of having the gear I want and a nice set up, and letting me play it for as long as is needed for me to know I cant live without it, but!!!)

Anyone know what the cheapest source of DR stings is now the exchange rate to the dollar is rubbish??

Tons of 80's goth stuff.

If you take a chorus and really pile on the delay you get well into flange territory, the Cure did this a bit, I'm pretty sure there was some of this on some Joy Division stuff too IIRC, but anyways, its good in small doses. Same the other way around a very subtle flange is effectively a chorus

Phaser sounds 'kin massive if you use a boss Heavy Metal distortion before it, best with very legato stuff so you can clearly hear the sweep. Utterly exceptional with tapped chordal stuff...

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So what do you guys think?

Considering buying one for that price, not expecting to be blown away by it but wouldn't mind having a freltess to mess around on.[/quote]


For that price it could be complete crud and you've not hurt yourself too much.

I would think you'd need to set it up properly (prbably include cutting the nut a bit deeper to get a nice low mwaaaah-y action - but it might be fine.

If its great let me know

Shame they dont do a J version for that price....

[quote name='lowdown' post='417752' date='Feb 23 2009, 07:37 PM']I see where you are comming from,
But there is a huge market for score and video support.
I am involved with a partner supplying music for Corporate vids and other.
And we are sent Avi and quick time movies, which are brief specific to video timings..so a must.
Then you have the Games business, adverts, trailors, Idents and the list is endless.
All this is now possible because of Low buget high quality home studios.
Even the top guys have this kind of set up.
All the top DAWS have these two features implemented,
They are throwing everthing they can in now, for that extra share of the market.
Cubase 5 even has in its notation window, a command where you draw in articulations and its
Orchestral player will play back the articulations - neat.!
That will save you ages, instead of doing that by track layering.
[Thats where the score editor page is a must, no matter how good your lugs are,
You still need a visual on the score for editing]

Reaper is great for Putting Demo's together, or to be honest fully fledged albums.
There is no problem with that side of things.
I just wonder how far the guy running Reaper can go, He has not got the backing the
Other majors have, so he is always playing catchup.

But as we have all said...
[b]A great DAW [/b]if you wanna just put Music tracks together.


Garry[/quote]

I absolutely agree with you on every point.

I go back to my initial position that for someone looking to get into sound engineering, or putting a demo of a band together then for the price nothing compares. And for those particular needs I think it really does cover all the actual requirements. Sure notation is really cool and has some really important uses, but I haven't missed it (and I am a "must be logic" bloke from days gone by when logic didn't even do audio internally).

Therefore its not absolutely necessary.

As for video, well thats a different beasty again, and I'd say if you were serious about that then you would have to stump up some money at the moment, but I never said Reaper did everything you could ever want, I said it did everything you [u]need[/u] for audio.

I certainly wouldn't put it past the guys at Reaper to eventually get these things in, but everyone is playing catchup with everyone else - for years cubase didn't do notation for instance, either way show me a DAW that does everything that Reaper does as well as Reaper for the money, now find me one that does everything reaper/cubase/nuendo/protools/logic blah blah blah does for even just double the money of Reaper - I think it might be tricky (although I might be wrong those guys could have shrunk their prices since I last looked).

Its similar to a lot of open source stuff, people said no one could ever come up with a free office package to rival that of MS, yet Open Office is very very good, and interestingly by focusing on what most people use most of the time the developers have come up with something that a lot of people find easier to use and quicker too. At the expense of certain functions that may be key to certain people, but not required for the great unwashed.

Its all cool though, as long as people are trying to do stuff like Reaper we all win out,

[quote name='lowdown' post='417555' date='Feb 23 2009, 04:07 PM']Another +1 for Reaper [ sigh...again]
No Notation view,
And no video import.
But if you dont need them, a must for the Money, or lack of it..
Garry[/quote]

Yeah I was thinking about the notation (or lack of) the other day, and to be fair its not a true requirement of a midi sequencer or a DAW. But I agree its a very nice to have.

As far as video gos, then I think you are doing stuff outsidce of anything I've ever done, which is why I never thought of that - again I'd even go so far as to say not really a true requirement of a DAW.

If those are the only really issues you have with it then I think its even more amazing for the money, since I find myself often thinking something is great that may only really work for me. Given the complexity of a lot of DAW/Sequencing software I tend to feel that I never really learnt all that any of it can do, too busy using just what I needed to get a track together!

Been thinking about it a little more and I'd go so far as to site the individual sounds and the way the mics are interacting as great material for anyone wanting to learn how they should go about micing drums and what they should really be looking for.

Love it.

Err IMHO the worst thing about most cheap basses is the apalling set up.

Having said that the SR300 I recently got with a fiend (beginner) was alright,but we tweaked it quite a bit to make ot really playable.

If these are of similar build quality to a cheap Ibanez, but set up better thats great.

If these get any more people into playing bass, thats great

Since thats what they are aimed at why is anyone here who isnt a teenager thinking about starting out on bass dissing them? They arent aimed at you, so get over it.

Top job Flea I think.

And looking distinctive is not a problem for me, as long as they play well and inspire beginners then they tick all the boxes. It would be fantastic if they came in at about £300, and to be honest they need to be amazing to beat the Ibanez sr300 range at close to that price.

[quote name='dr.funk' post='415464' date='Feb 20 2009, 03:52 PM']This is the best free drum kit plugin I have found. Says on the site it compared favourably to EZ drummer in a forum blind listen.

[url="http://www.bluenoise.no/mydrumset.html"]http://www.bluenoise.no/mydrumset.html[/url]

The MDA collection is well worth having as are the set of effects by tweakbench which have really nice interfaces and are quite creative.[/quote]


Cheers for this, been playing around with it for a little while and its exactly the type of thing I've been after for ever (ie a drummer I can sequence!)

Truly excellent drum sounds nice load of ambient mics up, only thing I might have done is to mic the floor toms as well. Other than that its perfect!

I reckon I could get a decent drum sound for almost any pop/funk/rock/metal/blues/reggae demo from this (anything but jazz with brushes obviously). Just by using differnt mic levels and eq and dynamics. Its brilliant!

[quote name='OldG' post='415968' date='Feb 21 2009, 08:51 AM']How about easy to use ,yet powerful - unlimited tracks /routing and VST slots..... and will see most audio file formats and DX effects.


I'm talking about [url="http://reaper.fm/download.php"]Reaper[/url], an unexpiring unrestricted demo - well worth the $50 registration fee...


From the Reaper forum - [url="http://forum.cockos.com/showthread.php?t=563&highlight=free+vst"]The Good Free effect Plug-in Thread[/url][/quote]

+1'ed this so many times its getting boring.

Listen all of you worrying about the best software to start of learning DAWs on in a windows system - its Reaper. Really , for the money (free full use trial for ever, then $50 home use I think) it blows everything away, and believe me I've used everything out there (as far as I know) at one time or other. Thing is its as good as all the rest at all but the deepest darkest stuff (that you dont need anyway normally for recording some demos) is lightweight (in terms of system power) and thoroughly excellent.

Go direct to the Chicken, do not pass go?

Great right hand technique nice chords, its just good init....

Stubbing its toe?

Did you ever get these wavs up?

[quote name='EdwardHimself' post='415181' date='Feb 20 2009, 12:16 PM']hang on, are you saying you can you actually buy music stuff tax free if you're a working musician?[/quote]

Course you can Mildred.

Like a sandwich shop buys bread and gets the VAT back off it.

You can if you are a professional musician type person claw back the tax off fuel, stage clothes (need to have proof), any and all equipment (including basses, amps, cabs, covers & racks, leads, fx, batteries, strings, notepads and pens - everything you use in a professional context), food whilst working - you need to keep all your receipts etc etc and do it all above board but yes its a legitimate profession after all.....

Thats the best compliment from the best person who could possibly give it. No wonder you're made up, any person on this site would be stoked if the same thing happened to them.

Enjoy it, you clearly deserve to.

Top fella bothering to tell you he thought it was a good job too, he must know how much it would mean to you after all.

See, my partner convinced me to buy my second bass, my berg cab and my MB amp. Didn't take a lot of convincing mind, but she was behind me all the way.

Fantastic woman!

His playing in the Flecktones is often fantastic IMO.

But he has been/will be plagued by the need to always get his thumb out and do the party piece thing.

His groove stuff is brilliant though. Three Flew Over The Cuckoos Nest has some outstanding playing on it that is all about groove - highly recommended!

He's a top fella, based in Brighton.

He leant me the Big One to try out, its a great cab, thats going to get better very soon (he redesigned the crossover based upon a couple of things I noticed about it - thats attention to detail!!!). When he's done that it will IMO be the lightest real gigging volume solution known to man. It sounds huge already.

love Erpland and Pungent Effulgent.

Just awsome to chill out to - lights off - mesmerising.

Again my partner thinks they stink so its a guilty pleasure for me too!

Still think your avatar is the most eye catching on this forum........

Oh yeah, 210s great stuff, nice rig, oooooo avatar, niiiiceee....


Sorry...

My son is dead lucky, what with the interweb and forums like this he started with a Nemesis G8 (?) practice amp - great sounding but not loud, perfect then!

Now he has finally put all his savings and Xmas pressies together and has a Hartke LH500 (top performer for the original price) into a Berg HT210 (wow!) and has my old BP8 for tuning and weird and wonderful noises.

What a lucky g*t I'm dead jealous when I think what I battled with for years!

Thats got to be one of the best first rigs ever, and really didnt break the bank compared to what does get bought, and will outperform anything else I have ever heard for what we paid for it.

Brilliant!