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[quote name='tauzero' post='541820' date='Jul 15 2009, 11:50 PM']That's not what you said though. You said that you bought what your favourite players used. I rate (for example) Chris Squire highly but I wouldn't buy a Rick, and nor would I particularly want his sound as I'm not keen on it. It also doesn't make much sense just to buy one bit of the chain. You really need the same instrument, effects, amp, cab, strings, and fingers.[/quote] yeh it seems a very weird approach. If you were to only ever use the gear of the players you admired, then you could be missing out on a whole world of sound and tone which would really suit YOU but doesn't suit those you admire.

[quote name='WalMan' post='542016' date='Jul 16 2009, 10:28 AM']I keep thinking I should add something to the WIKI, but life is just too short sometimes[/quote] You could just copy and paste the massive post you just made.

I've seen that before somewhere!

Put the octave pedal at the start. IMHO pitch effects should always go first, because it's the same (almost) as playing two notes at the same time.

could be a dodgy footswitch. Is there any way you can try another?

I have an Athalon mobile CPU running at 2.3Ghz, 3Gb RAM, 2 x M-Audio Delta1010Lt, Cubase SX3, a couple of speakers plugged into an amp. I do recording at home through a crappy phonix mixer. I record at my practice room using a rack of pre-amps, and some budget drum mics, some used condensor mics I got from here and ebay. I'm working on an album at the moment, so you'll be able to hear the sort of "quality" I can get from it.

Where's TheFunk? He's clearly the best dressed bassist and band leader out there.

[quote name='thedontcarebear' post='541044' date='Jul 15 2009, 10:15 AM']I find this thread quite funny, there is no way on earth that my band would arrange beforehand what we are wearing, people will get home from work, or get up in the morning, put on clothes, then show up to a gig later and play in said clothes.[/quote] We used to do that. We were trying to get somewhere (like a record deal) though, so we decided to address every aspect of our band to give us the best possible chance.

The keyboard player can't do everything, they deffinitely have sequenced synth tracks as well as bvs and guitars and sometimes bass - but the bass is generally a synth sound over chris playing the line clean. I used to love the way muse had a massive intricate heavily layered sound on their CDs, but playing live it was very stripped down, but still sounded huge. Simpler = heavier IMO and they really had that. Clearly that's not what they're into anyway.

It doesn't matter what you wear, as long as the whole band are agreed on what you're wearing. I think it's generally agreed that it would be beneficial for you all to conform to the same style, if not coordinate. It's not a nice thing if you're not into image (like me) but it's a fact of life you will have to accept.

[quote name='jonthebass' post='540239' date='Jul 14 2009, 12:35 PM']Totally my opinion but I don't agree. How did you come to this conclusion? Not starting a war here, just curious. Cheers, Jon.[/quote] We're on the internet here, so start a f*cking war or i'm not replying. Seriously though, the basic reasoning is this... When you go to watch bands playing live, 90% of the time, all you hear from the bass (if the sound is good) are the fundamentals or whatever it's called. The low end balls of the sound. Then, if there's a lot of distortion or top end or high mids etc, you can cut through there and compete with guitars and keyboards. You won't compete in that range by just using your fingers. Any "subtle" or "natural" sound will do the low end balls fine, but at 90% of gigs, no-one's going to hear what you spent £1000s on. You can get the low end balls from any old crap rig. Basically, no-one cares about tiny subtle changes in bass tone. People notice when there's a massive huge distorted bass sound, or they notice when you're wahing with some fuzz, or when you're playing subtly through a whammy and digital delay, but none of these people will be able to tell that the frequency response of your EBS rig is totally flat and "true to the bass". [quote name='stevie' post='540348' date='Jul 14 2009, 02:25 PM']Except when playing through a Peavey combo, when turning it off sounds better.[/quote] I love my peavey combo, and I continue to get great sounds out of it now. I've used some right crap amps at gigs (even ashdown!!) but i've also used some excellent pro touring rigs. I'm not saying my peavey is better than them all, but it can do what I want just as good as any other amp out there. That said, my gigging days involved a 2 x 12" guitar combo as well.

[quote name='mike257' post='540017' date='Jul 14 2009, 08:44 AM']Where are your mad conspiracy theories about the live show coming from? Up until (I think) the Absolution tour, it was just the three of them. These days, there's them, plus an extra guy on stage doing additional keyboards and bits, plus there's synth stuff sequenced because there's a lot of layers of it in some of the tunes. The guitar, bass and drums is the blokes on stage playing. We're not talking about the Spice Girls here!![/quote] They do double and layer guitars, bass, synths and BVs. It used to be chris->pedalboard->amps->ears. Now you haven't got a clue what you're listening to. It takes away from the energy you get from seeing a live band IMO.

Amps: Peavey 15" BW 150W combo Pedals: Too many What i've learned: 1. If you turn up your amp, it sounds better. 2. The tone is in the pedals, not the fingers. 3. If your amp isn't loud enough, add a cab. If it's still not loud enough, you need a new amp. IMHO using my pedal board and ANY old amp, I can get a sound i'm really happy with.

some sort of jiggery-pokery could sort it. Maybe some elastic bands and some sellotape?

[quote name='Happy Jack' post='534615' date='Jul 7 2009, 01:00 PM']One oddity was that the "default" setting according to the manual was All-up, i.e. everything to max, the idea being that you changed your sound by rolling [b][i]off [/i][/b]the knobs as required.[/quote] It's generally considered better to cut rather than boost, when you're talking about EQ.

[quote name='Jase' post='534686' date='Jul 7 2009, 02:05 PM']Isn't suited? What, like he doesn't fit? Doesn't go along with the bullshit that so often piles up on here? Didn't realise you have to "suit" an internet forum.[/quote] You don't HAVE to suit an internet forum, but you do have to be able to take posts and posters with a pinch of salt, as well as be able to ignore them if needs be, and take on board sensible comments where needs be. Janek wasn't being arrogant at all IMHO.

[quote name='silddx' post='534591' date='Jul 7 2009, 12:30 PM']But why does this incivility happen? My only surmise it's because he's in the public eye, recorded with famous musicians, has a column in BGM, plays a £8,000 bass, defends that bass vociferously, has more chops than Jeff Berlin, is the public face of Christian Dior, has sponsorship from Iceland, often papped outside Tiger Tiger and The Ivy, wears too much make up, has fake norks, slags off the Queen in the Mirror, disowned his quintuplets, supports Greenpeace while being seen eating bluefin tuna, is Uri Geller's best mate, has two penises .. you get my drift? As soon as someone gets a bit of notoriety, some people feel they are now a legitimate object for their derision and speculation and can deride them with impunity. It's sort of a British disease. The same thing would happen if Water of Tyne got the Beyoncé gig, or if Big Beef Chief started regularly appearing on Mock The Week.[/quote] There were a couple of immature comments regarding his fodera comment. I would put them down to jealousy. Maybe i've read it wrong, but I got the impression he was just as annoyed about people complaining about the price of gear reviewed. People were saying that they should review gear in a lower price bracket, and instead of saying "good idea, i'll suggest it to the editor" he tried to defend the status quo, and quite aggressivley at that. IMHO it's not the minority ruining it for the majority. It's one pro bassist who isn't suited to internet forums!

That IS a lot of dirt. Thanks for the tip, I am making my first purchase as I type.

That's so cool! Nice one. Better pics when you have it please!

You can't have enough dirt!!

[quote name='EskimoBassist' post='534462' date='Jul 7 2009, 10:19 AM']Korg AX3000B Multi :ph34r:[/quote] cheater cheater!!

[quote name='Rayman' post='533907' date='Jul 6 2009, 04:42 PM'][i]To me[/i], Janek is a great player, and would be a valuable member of this community if the same old clowns didn't just rip him to bits every time he writes here, and it's the usual suspects every time.[/quote] There are some people I regard as sensible making posts to this effect. I find it very strange. I've read back over the thread, and it's pretty clear that Janek took some comments way too seriously/personally, and was then unwilling listen to reason. I too would love it if more pro players, especially someone of his caliber, would post more here. Someone suggested he post in the techniques section. I'm sure there would be no contentious posts in there for him to take the wrong way. He clearly doesn't want to contribute to the techniques section, so let's not get bent out of shape and blame our own members for "forcing him out". [quote name='urb' post='534117' date='Jul 6 2009, 08:31 PM']With all due/total respect to you and everyone else who've been critical of BGM in this thread - there are plenty of BGM contributors who have read all the critical comments on here and they DO take them seriously.[/quote] I haven't been critical about BGM at all, I made it quite clear i've never read an issue. I think it's great that contributors such as yourselves are here reading the comment. What I was really saying is that BGM need to make an official response. Even if it's just the editor coming on to make a post saying "Thanks for all your comments here, we couldn't improve our mag without your feedback, rest-assured we're reading your criticisms and are working to improve the magazine for all of you."

If it's only the footswitch it should be easy to fix. Perhaps they just use a dodgy sort? The footswitches on my Zoom B2.1U have broken, but it will be really easy to fix, so I don't feel like it's a shoddy product or anything.

Sorry, yeh it wasn't a dig at you, I just find it amusing when someone wants a pedal that doesn't colour their sound much. The ODB-3 is a great pedal IMO, I don't know why it gets such a hard time.

IMHO The ODB-3 has so much low end on tap with the low control, there's no way you can get a thin sound out of it. I think some people just want to be able to leave the EQ controls flat so they "can hear the true sound of my bass, man".