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My first bass ever from 1986, bought it for ca 260£. Does anyone know about this brand "Dia"? Can't find any info. I wonder about its "quality" because I'd like to sell it and get me the real thing.

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My ladies:

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From left to right
Shine SB35, ebay £105.02 - best bit of last second 'I'll raise you tuppence' bidding I've ever done :)
Homebuilt 'P' copy, from Saga kit £80, plus about another £100 for the paint and hardware
Modified 'J' copy, originally a Wesley, bought on ebay for £50, changed to EMG actives running@18V £90, Gotoh 201 bridge £30 and 'orange marble' scratchplate £20.
Adam Black Apollo, again another £50 ebay find

A closeup of my 'P', 'cos it's my favourite :-)

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Won this thing on Ebay for a total of £40 includind carriage,Its called a Keiper Resolute or something like that,what surprised me about it being a cheapo and costing me less than a night on the piss is its solid wood,ok the grains as rough as a badgers arse but body etc looks deceivingly good quality,it weighs half a kilo more than my P bass,it plays/sounds better than i thought it would,only thing i dislike is the neck width,despite being the same as the P copy 63mm at the body and only 3mm wider at the nut feels far chunkier,rest of the hardware seems ok quality,problem is ive googled and theres very little about these on the net but its certainly the best 40 quid ive layed out on a complette playable bass.

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Below. My first bass guitar a [b]Westfield B 1000 [/b]P bass. £79 including p&p brand new from ebay 16 months ago, from a guy selling off his stock. These days they are between £100 - £190 in different forms and packages, new from many shops and websites. Fortunaeltely I was in luck, I could have spent two or three times that ammount and bought worse. Its only recently now i have a bit more experience with basses that i realize what a fantastic bass this is for the money. In fact not just for the money, its a great bass at any price.



Below. My [b]Peavey Milestone Mk I [/b]Jazz bass, £30 off ebay

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My first bass ever from 1986, bought it for ca 260£. Does anyone know about this brand "Dia"? Can't find any info. I wonder about its "quality" because I'd like to sell it and get me the real thing.[/quote]


[b]Krohurte:[/b] If you go to [url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=270&st=1640&start=1640"]this thread [/url]and put up a pic and details and ask [b]bassassin[/b] he will help, im sure. He knows his [i]Rickenfakers[/i] inside out. (PS the thread is over 80 pages long so unless you have a spare 4 hours just zip to the last page :) )

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[quote name='daz' post='1186676' date='Apr 3 2011, 01:01 PM'][b]Krohurte:[/b] If you go to [url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=270&st=1640&start=1640"]this thread [/url]and put up a pic and details and ask [b]bassassin[/b] he will help, im sure. He knows his [i]Rickenfakers[/i] inside out. (PS the thread is over 80 pages long so unless you have a spare 4 hours just zip to the last page :) )[/quote]
It's a pity I didn't see this earlier, hopefully Krohurte will check this thread out.

The bass is a through-neck 4001 copy made by Matsumoku in Japan, unless there's a serial number it's hard to put a precise date on this because these were made from approximately 1973/4 until the early/mid 80s. It is probably mid 70s because Japanese manufacturers broadly stopped exporting copies from about 1978 onwards, due to a move towards original designs, and the rising costs of manufacturing meaning "cheap" instruments were more likely to be sourced from places like Korea.

Anyway I have a Matsumoku-made 4001 copy, almost identical to this one (mine has a rosewood board) so I know a bit about these:

These are pretty much the most accurate Rick 4001 copies made, right down to the twin truss rods and accurate copies of the "wavy" Grover tuners featured on many 70s 4001s. Reviews at the time actually claimed the Matsumoku 4001 was built to a higher standard than the genuine article - certainly the modern truss rod design & poly finish are much less prone to self-destruction than those used on the real 4001, these elements being unevolved since the 1950s. They were also very consistent, Matsumoku was one of the first guitar manufacturers to use CNC routers so they all feel & play the same, unlike proper Ricks, which can vary in shape, weight & neck proportion depending on the time of the month, seemingly.

Unfortunately, being a very accurate copy, it also inherited some of the 4001's design flaws - an unadjustably high action is common, due to the vast neck pickup route situated at the very end of the fretboard. Combine this & the very thin body with years of being strung with high-tension roundwound strings, and the neck simply pulls forward at this natural weak point - and there's little one can do to fix this. On real 4001s, delamination of the body wings is a common side effect too, although much less frequently seen on copies - one assumes this is down to use of more efficient modern adhesives.

I have encountered the "DIA" brand name before - I post of a few vintage guitar forums & have seen instruments with this brand come up. I don't know which country Krohurte's from but it will be a domestic importer's own brand, I'd guess most likely the company's initials, much like CMI or CSL in the UK. These brand names on old MIJ copies are very seldom connected to the actual manufacturer in any way.

Anyway here's my Unholy Trinity:



The Mat is on the left, the other two are The Frankenbugger, assembled from numerous desecrated bass-corpses, and The Rickenbugger - a somewhat pimped Kasuga EB-750. They're all very much at home in this thread because what I paid for 'em wouldn't cover half a real Rick. Just as well I have no wish to own one - besides, these are massively more interesting & individual.

Jon.

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Jon your knowledge on this stuff never ceases to amaze me :) ,you are indeed the Richard Attenbourgh of the bass guitar...this is where i regret leaving it til 45 to get into it,calculated i`ll be at least 50 before confident enough to gig and at the current rate will have bought 1323 cheap bass copies by the same time.

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[quote name='dougie' post='1187219' date='Apr 3 2011, 09:48 PM']Jon your knowledge on this stuff never ceases to amaze me :) ,you are indeed the Richard Attenbourgh of the bass guitar...this is where i regret leaving it til 45 to get into it,calculated i`ll be at least 50 before confident enough to gig and at the current rate will have bought 1323 cheap bass copies by the same time.[/quote]
I recently bought a Schecter Diamond Series 4 string. It's lovely and plays fab. I sold a 1976 USA Precision on the strenght of it !

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[quote name='Toastie1' post='1187764' date='Apr 4 2011, 02:05 PM']I recently bought a Schecter Diamond Series 4 string. It's lovely and plays fab. I sold a 1976 USA Precision on the strenght of it ![/quote]
Love Schecters,bought this for £50 needing rewired,couldnt identify the year or exact model(neither could anyone on the Schecter forums)found similar bodies but none with the fender shaped headstock

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I've played a couple of basses in the past, but last year got this beauty, $126 brand new from the store, love this precision replica bass, its sound, construction, playability and looks. At this moment it's my only bass and I'm quite happy with it.

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I've played a couple of basses in the past, but last year got this beauty, $126 brand new from the store, love this precision replica bass, its sound, construction, playability and looks. At this moment it's my only bass and I'm quite happy with it.
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I just got a "Hodson" Pro Bass P-Copy from Ebay as a mess arounder and apart from the name on the headstock it's identical to that but in White. Was pleasantly suprised at how playable it is. Bridge is a bit flimsy but the pick-ups have a bit of oomph (though I've just ordered some Wizard Pups to drop in it)

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I just got a "Hodson" Pro Bass P-Copy from Ebay as a mess arounder and apart from the name on the headstock it's identical to that but in White. Was pleasantly suprised at how playable it is. Bridge is a bit flimsy but the pick-ups have a bit of oomph (though I've just ordered some Wizard Pups to drop in it)
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Yep, those cheap P-bass copies sometimes gives you a nice surprise, they have been getting better; in the eighties I remembered played some low budget basses and they were all clumsy with poor craftmanship and terrible sound

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