AI in music

[Cato]

56 minutes ago, Al Krow said:

 

There's got to be an opportunity for a streaming platform to be set up that takes only non ai content, and requires some form of validation from uploaders.

 

So far Deezer is the only one I'm aware of that's trying it.

 

Nothing I've read over the years about Spotify or it's owner makes me think he cares about much about the content on his platform other than funneling as much money as possible from the music industry into his own pockets.

 

Unless his revenues start dropping off because people are boycotting Spotify in protest over unlabelled AI I can't see them taking any action.

 

 

Edited 2 hours ago by Cato

[TimR]

15 hours ago, 80Hz said:

 

Well sure, but I think that still involves some critical thinking/reverse engineering, no? And I would think what you're talking about is still beyond most people.

 

Example: I've tried to get an LLM to spit out some code for an audio thing I wanted to do, and no, it didn't work, and furthermore, no, I didn't know how to fix it 😂

 

A lot of kids are being taught programming by assembling pre built units, that do things, together. 

 

We should remember that a lot of programming we do, if we are using a language is also assembling things that other people have already written for us. No one writes in binary or assembler. 

 

Very few of us have built our own amplifiers, leads, guitars. We all rely on the donkey work being already done for us.

 

It just depends on what level of individual human input you're comfortable with. 

 

Seems most of us draw the line at the actual performance.

 

There's some very interesting music created from received telescopic data by NASA's Sonification project. 

 

 

 

 

 

I think all AI produce should be labelled as such. 

 

 

 

Edited 1 hour ago by TimR

[Al Krow]

16 minutes ago, Cato said:

So far Deezer is the only one I'm aware of that's trying it.

Nothing I've read over the years about Spotify or it's owner makes me think he cares about much about the content on his platform other than funneling as much money as possible from the music industry into his own pockets.

Unless his revenues start dropping off because people are boycotting Spotify in protest over unlabelled AI I can't see them taking any action.

 

I did a quick search and this is what Google's AI assistant, lol, came up with:

 

Top Music Streaming Services Avoiding/Limiting AI

• Bandcamp (Most Proactive): Bandcamp is considered the strictest, having formally stated that music or audio generated wholly or substantially by AI is not allowed. They reserve the right to remove AI-generated content, focusing on protecting a space built on human, independent artists.
• Deezer (Best Detection/Labelling): Deezer has taken a leading role by actively identifying AI-generated tracks, aiming to label them and remove them from algorithmic recommendations. As of 2025, they have reported that 85% of AI-generated streams are demonetized on their platform.
• Qobuz (High-Fidelity Human Curation): Known for its focus on high-fidelity audio, Qobuz tends to feature,, heavily curated content, with playlists created by humans rather than algorithms, making it less likely to be flooded with AI-generated, "lo-fi" style content.
• Coda Music: A newer platform that is building tools to label and allow users to actively block or turn off AI artists, promising a more human-centered experience.
• Other Platforms: SoundCloud has stated it does not use artist uploads to train AI and has introduced a "no AI" tag to block unauthorized use. 

Music Platforms to Exercise Caution

• Spotify: While not banning AI, Spotify has introduced measures to target "spammy" AI uploads and vocal deepfakes, rather than AI as a creative tool. However, it remains a primary source of AI-generated content, particularly in personalized playlists.
• Apple Music: Focuses on quality control and proper metadata, meaning they may reject AI content that lacks clear authorship or is deemed low-effort. 

[TimR]

I can't imagine anyone employing people to sit a desk all day, looking at the music you like and then working out what other music you would like. For a start, no human would have that massive encyclopedic knowledge of songs and genres, including album tracks etc.

 

Certain jobs/processes are only possible and have been created because of AI. I suspect this will be the better use. 

 

Self driving cars, where one accident can be analysed and then the scenario be exported to all the other self driving cars so they don't make the same mistake, unlike human drivers who all seem to make the same mistakes over and over again and never learn from either themselves or others.