Pow_22 Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago (edited) My current cab is an early Barefaced 1x15 compact - lovely cab, very easy to move and a superb sound. However, ive been trying to get away with using an Ashdown Little Bastard head live as we do use a decent PA and all DI into the mix but finding it falls JUST short. I have the opportunity of a dirt cheap Ashdown ABM 4x10 (UK made, blue speakers) and was wondering what the volume difference would be from a 1x15 to a 4x10 (im very much aware of the limitations of a 30w head). I know Barefaced are supposed to be super efficient so that further muddies the water as to exactly how much more volume a 4x10 box would throw out? Edited 5 hours ago by Pow_22 Quote
Bill Fitzmaurice Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago Surface area by itself means next to nothing. What matters is area x excursion, ie., displacement. BF lists it, Ashdown doesn't. In any event you're not going to get anywhere near what the BF you have is capable of with 30 watts. 300 would be more appropriate. 1 Quote
Dan Dare Posted 5 hours ago Posted 5 hours ago Bill's correct. I think the blue Ashdown drivers were Sicas, so were of reasonable quality. However, the BF is a far superior design and will certainly be more efficient (and therefore louder) than the Ashdown. I'd put the money towards a more powerful head, rather than throw it at another cab, no matter how cheap it is. 30w is really only adequate for home, studio or acoustic gig use for a bass. Guitar players can get away with 30w amps on gigs because they do not want clean sound or extended low frequencies, both of which need power. 1 Quote
itu Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago 2 hours ago, Dan Dare said: ...because they do not want clean sound or extended low frequencies, both of which need power... ...and their playing happens at the ear's most sensitive frequencies. Quote
Bill Fitzmaurice Posted 3 hours ago Posted 3 hours ago To put that into context for the same output level you need at least twice the cone displacement with bass as you do with guitar. To realize twice the displacement requires double the voltage swing, which is four times the power. You may need as much as four times the displacement, which is four times the voltage swing, which is sixteen times the power. 1 Quote
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