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Main gig is with a modern jazz quartet - I generally join the mic'd piano in going through the PA along with my own backline, but the louder we get at larger venues, the less I like the bass sound. 

 

Would introducing an additional mic be worth looking at? Either blended with Realist / or replacing? Trawled previous threads and not much recent activity. All ideas welcomed. 

 

Current set up is Realist copperhead > fishman platinum > TH500 > 12 inch cab. DI from the fishman. 

 

 

 

 

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Challenge lurks in the phrase 'the louder we get'. Not insurmountable, but high stage volume + DB + mic = higher chance of feedback. There are ways around it of course but all veer in the direction of complexity and expense. I would perhaps try to get a different sound by blending and separately EQing two on-board PUPs? I got close to the sound I wanted at volume with a Realist and a Nadine mic through a Grace Felix, but the louder the stage volume the more I had to bias the settings in favour of the Realist to the point that often the Nadine was almost gone. Another approach was a Heil PR40 on a low mic stand in front of the bass which allowed me to manage volume and feedback by pivoting the bass (which was not possible with an H-Clamp as I found at one awful gig), but while it sounded OK, there are easier ways :) 

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Thanks! Really helpful. The Nadine had come up on my search, beautiful bit of kit but an expensive punt - interesting to hear your experience live. 

 

Hadn’t considered blending another PUP, assumed only route would be some form of ambient mic.. would you look at magnetic or another Piezo flavour? 

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7 hours ago, Drax said:

Thanks! Really helpful. The Nadine had come up on my search, beautiful bit of kit but an expensive punt - interesting to hear your experience live. 

 

Hadn’t considered blending another PUP, assumed only route would be some form of ambient mic.. would you look at magnetic or another Piezo flavour? 

 

I would go mag as long as you're not using guts or similar that don't create a field. My view is that you really want a PUP that produces a different tone to the Realist to give you wider options. I found that using a mag, which gave me very reliable and quite thumpy lows, I could EQ the bridge PUP to give me more highs (and cut some of what were to my ear less toneful mids coming from the bridge PUP), and then tune the balance of the two to get close to the sound in my head. I never get anywhere near perfect, but got close enough 👍

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