Al Heeley Posted March 20, 2009 Author Share Posted March 20, 2009 +1 sound advice (no pun intended) - thanks guys. Will look thru some of the tutorials now and try to get soundcard/asio/midi configured correctly in Ableton and Cubase (and reaper - which came with my new vypyr lead amp) and see which I get on best with. I'm presuming all of these will have similar access to the VST instruments, to run EZdrummer and guitar rig/amplitude, etc...? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Twigman Posted March 20, 2009 Share Posted March 20, 2009 (edited) [url="http://www.cakewalk.com/support/kb/kb20081217.asp"]http://www.cakewalk.com/support/kb/kb20081217.asp[/url] = Sonar8 trial [url="http://www.cakewalk.com/Support/kb/kb20061101.asp"]http://www.cakewalk.com/Support/kb/kb20061101.asp[/url] = Sonar7 trial Don't forget (IMO) the best of the lot. [url="http://www.cakewalk.com/Products/SWA/SONAR7/default.asp"]http://www.cakewalk.com/Products/SWA/SONAR7/default.asp[/url] = complete S7 video tutorial and check these [url="http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=CakewalkSoftware"]http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=CakewalkSoftware[/url] Edited March 20, 2009 by Twigman Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eight Posted March 20, 2009 Share Posted March 20, 2009 [quote name='Al Heeley' post='440187' date='Mar 20 2009, 12:10 PM']I'm presuming all of these will have similar access to the VST instruments, to run EZdrummer and guitar rig/amplitude, etc...?[/quote] More than likely they'll find the "Vstplugins" directory that Cubase created. If they don't, you can set the location of the vst plugins in each program to point to it. They can all use VST and VSTi plugins so EzDrummer, Guitar Rig and Amplitude all work lovely in them. I have Guitar Rig and Amplitude and know first hand that both are sweeet in Sonar and Live. Don't have EzDrummer but I do have Toontrack's DrumKitFromHell Superior and that works well too. So you've no worries on your plugin fronts. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowdown Posted March 20, 2009 Share Posted March 20, 2009 (edited) [quote name='Twigman' post='440198' date='Mar 20 2009, 12:18 PM'][url="http://www.cakewalk.com/support/kb/kb20081217.asp"]http://www.cakewalk.com/support/kb/kb20081217.asp[/url] = Sonar8 trial [url="http://www.cakewalk.com/Support/kb/kb20061101.asp"]http://www.cakewalk.com/Support/kb/kb20061101.asp[/url] = Sonar7 trial Don't forget (IMO) the best of the lot. [url="http://www.cakewalk.com/Products/SWA/SONAR7/default.asp"]http://www.cakewalk.com/Products/SWA/SONAR7/default.asp[/url] = complete S7 video tutorial and check these [url="http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=CakewalkSoftware"]http://www.youtube.com/profile?user=CakewalkSoftware[/url][/quote] Sonar 8.3.1 has moved on a lot. Tons of under the hood fixes and improvments. And it is rock solid. Now comes with full versions of all the Synths. Content alone is worth the money. about 8 gig i think. Plus the external insert feature is very good [ still small teething problems ] I have upgraded all along from Sonar 2, And for me it is the best version by far. If you have a good set up Audio PC it runs like a dream. Garry Edited March 20, 2009 by lowdown Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Heeley Posted March 21, 2009 Author Share Posted March 21, 2009 Eight: you are right about Ableton, very user-friendly, after 1/2 an hour I'd imported some drum loops from EZdrummer, synched 4 different keyboard midi tracks and played a bass groove along at the same time thru an audio track. It has a GUI feel that I find a lot easier and more logical to move around in so i guess the Cubase LE will gather some more dust while I learn the ropes. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steve Posted March 21, 2009 Share Posted March 21, 2009 [quote name='Al Heeley' post='441206' date='Mar 21 2009, 06:23 PM']Eight: you are right about Ableton, very user-friendly, after 1/2 an hour I'd imported some drum loops from EZdrummer, synched 4 different keyboard midi tracks and played a bass groove along at the same time thru an audio track. It has a GUI feel that I find a lot easier and more logical to move around in so i guess the Cubase LE will gather some more dust while I learn the ropes.[/quote] I'll give Ableton a +1, I have cubase with reason and BFD, had to set up a separate winXP partition on my laptop, which was a complete PITA, and use it with a M-Audio FW410. The whole cubase thing I find unmusical and not particularly intuitive. I bought an M-Audio Fast Track USB this week, which installed in Vista with no problems, and I'm using Ableton Live Lite, and it's great - I'm going to do the upgrade soon because I find the whole creative process much easier with Live Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eight Posted March 22, 2009 Share Posted March 22, 2009 [quote name='Al Heeley' post='441206' date='Mar 21 2009, 06:23 PM']Eight: you are right about Ableton, very user-friendly, after 1/2 an hour I'd imported some drum loops from EZdrummer, synched 4 different keyboard midi tracks and played a bass groove along at the same time thru an audio track. It has a GUI feel that I find a lot easier and more logical to move around in so i guess the Cubase LE will gather some more dust while I learn the ropes.[/quote] Cool - glad you're enjoying it. I was pretty stunned when I first tried it, couldn't believe a package that was so straightforward to use would actually have the features and abilities to rival the main sequencers. I'm glad they don't make me choose between Sonar and Live. I'd be very sorry to see one of them go. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lowdown Posted March 22, 2009 Share Posted March 22, 2009 [quote name='Eight' post='441454' date='Mar 22 2009, 12:35 AM']I'm glad they don't make me choose between Sonar and Live. I'd be very sorry to see one of them go.[/quote] They dont - thats what rewire is for... Garry Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Al Heeley Posted March 22, 2009 Author Share Posted March 22, 2009 [quote name='lowdown' post='441504' date='Mar 22 2009, 08:14 AM']They dont - thats what rewire is for... Garry[/quote]OK , what's rewire about then? Just as I thought i was starting to see the light at the end of the tunnel.... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Low Down Dave Posted March 22, 2009 Share Posted March 22, 2009 [quote name='Al Heeley' post='441545' date='Mar 22 2009, 10:16 AM']OK , what's rewire about then? Just as I thought i was starting to see the light at the end of the tunnel.... [/quote] ReWire is a system for transferring audio data between two computer applications info here [url="http://www.dolphinmusic.co.uk/article/205-what-is-rewire-.html"]http://www.dolphinmusic.co.uk/article/205-...is-rewire-.html[/url] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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