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[quote name='slobluesine' post='1237424' date='May 19 2011, 09:13 PM']keep up Doddy, that was starters :)

sorry but i don't get the loft stuff :) can someone pm me in?[/quote]
Read a synopsis of The Picture of Dorian Gray by Oscar Wilde.

[url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Picture_of_Dorian_Gray"]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Picture_of_Dorian_Gray[/url]

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[quote name='silddx' post='1237450' date='May 19 2011, 09:28 PM']Read a synopsis of The Picture of Dorian Gray by Oscar Wilde.

[url="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Picture_of_Dorian_Gray"]http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Picture_of_Dorian_Gray[/url][/quote]

aahhh, narcisisstic hedonism, Hp sauce, Dorianism, where have i been all these years :)...

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If anybody is still interested in the original question (you've probably forgotten by now what is was !) you might like to have a look at my Boot Camp Session 33 which is loosely based on "So What".

The point that everybody seems to have missed is this:

The D Dorian mode - DEFGABCD - spells out not only Dm7 - DFAC - but also G7 - GBDF - and Em7 - EGBD. Its these 2 chords that give the Dorian mode its particular flavour. Look in particular at the B natural, the raised 6th (major 6th from D). This is the one note that is different from the Natural Minor scale or Aeolian Mode - DEFGABbC. In this Mode the chords would be Gm7 and Em7b5.

The tune of So What gives no clue to the Mode as there is no 3rd (from the root D) - no F or F sharp. Its the accompanying chords (with the incorporated B natural) that give the modal feel to the piece. That distinctive 2 chord phrase - Em7 and Dm7 - creates the Dorian mode.

The Major

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[quote name='slobluesine' post='1237849' date='May 20 2011, 10:26 AM']off piste or what :) so where do i find this boot camp stuff Major?[/quote]

Here you go, they are superb! And so is the Major!

[url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=74284"]http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=74284[/url]

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this may or may not be of interest, but Frank Zappa often soloed over a static Dorian harmonic vamp... if you listen to the solos from City of Tiny Lites, or The Torture Never Stops, they use G dorian and A dorian respectively... well, there's loads of them.. dorian and mixolydian were his fave modal aromas for soloing... certainly later on in the 1980's

so if you're interested in how you'd approach a static modal vamp in a jazz-rock kinda vein, you could do worse than listen to Scott Thunes' work on the Frank Zappa 'Guitar' album.. it's full of Dorian noodlings

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[quote name='Steve Dixon' post='1238435' date='May 20 2011, 05:20 PM']this may or may not be of interest, but Frank Zappa often soloed over a static Dorian harmonic vamp... if you listen to the solos from City of Tiny Lites, or The Torture Never Stops, they use G dorian and A dorian respectively... well, there's loads of them.. dorian and mixolydian were his fave modal aromas for soloing... certainly later on in the 1980's

so if you're interested in how you'd approach a static modal vamp in a jazz-rock kinda vein, you could do worse than listen to Scott Thunes' work on the Frank Zappa 'Guitar' album.. it's full of Dorian noodlings[/quote]
You sir, are a scholar for mentioning my hero, Scott :)

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[quote name='silddx' post='1238799' date='May 20 2011, 10:43 PM']

Now, I hope this geezer knows what he's taking about or I may look like a right twat :)[/quote]

Isn't that basically what I said back on the first page? :)

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[quote name='Doddy' post='1239294' date='May 21 2011, 01:32 PM']Isn't that basically what I said back on the first page? :)[/quote]
It probably is, but I think sbs needed to hear someone playing it :)

People learn in different ways. I'm a very visual learner for instance so theory on a page doesn't really help me a great deal. I usually need to see and hear.

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