stevie

[quote name='billynoband' post='241877' date='Jul 17 2008, 04:33 PM']If you put numbers in Winsd you get something big enough to hang your wifes clothes in. Anyone else noticed that. [/quote]

Also, - winsd doesn't model floor reinforcement nor (as far as I can remember) the cabinet response step. The curve you get in winsd is actually nothing like real life.

[quote name='billynoband' post='241877' date='Jul 17 2008, 04:33 PM']If you put numbers in Winsd you get something big enough to hang your wifes clothes in. Anyone else noticed that. [/quote]

You have to know what you want your system to do. If you let winsd dictate cabinet size, it will suggest standard alignments, which aren't necessarily what you want.

[quote name='Bill Fitzmaurice' post='241793' date='Jul 17 2008, 02:53 PM']+1. As good as the 2226 was when introduced it's day is long over. Consider that even JBL has not used them in their high end products for years. As a standalone driver the 3015 has twice the useable bandwidth, while as a pure woofer the 3015LF at half the weight has twice the displacement limited power input capability. If all you desire is a simple cabinet the horse's mouth can be found at [url="http://www.eminence.com/resources/cabinets.asp"]http://www.eminence.com/resources/cabinets.asp[/url][/quote]

I checked, and the 2226H is actually a current model. So it’s day isn’t over at all - especially as there are a number of other manufacturers selling very close copies (Beyma, RCF, Usher and other less well known companies). Interestingly, Eminence tried to copy it at one point, and I tested that one, too - but it sounded goddam awful in the mid.

The 3015 doesn’t have twice the useable bandwidth – look at the JBL spec sheet - nor twice the displacement limited power input capacity for that matter. It is lighter though (doh!), so you got that right.

The 3015 may be the bee's knees, especially at its dollar price, but that doesn't detract from the fact that the JBL is a 2226H is still a superb driver.

[quote name='alexclaber' post='241763' date='Jul 17 2008, 02:01 PM']You do indeed need to update your information. I have modelled countless 10", 12" and 15" drivers from all those names and the Kappalites consistently come out extremely well regardless of price. The 2226H looks more comparable to a 3015LF (though has less Xmax and weighs a lot more) in that the treble extension is very limited and thus really needs a midrange speaker unless you only play dub/reggae.

Alex[/quote]

I think you'll find there's a bit more to it than putting the numbers in winsd, Alex.

[quote name='RichardH' post='241705' date='Jul 17 2008, 01:05 PM']Recommendations?[/quote]

My hands-on experience is a bit out of date, I'm afraid. My favourite bass driver when I was in the business was the JBL 2226H. I don't think they make them any more but you can pick one up on eBay for seventy or eighty pounds. For tone, thump and output, it takes some beating and I don't think there is much to compare with it even today. There's also the JBL K140, but they are a bit rare.

Companies like RCF, Fane, B&C and 18Sound are all making good quality drivers, but they cost from around £150 up. The problem with Eminence is that they are built down to a price to suit the OEM market, which means you are likely to end up with something that sounds very ordinary indeed. I know that's not going to go down well on this forum, and I haven't tried their latest speakers, but I tested the entire range at one time, and I just could not get a quality sound from them. I'm not saying 'don't use them', but I'm saying - be aware.

I wouldn't mind betting that a JBL 2226H in your cabinet would outperform any comparable bass cabinet currently on the market. Could be worth a punt.

[quote name='RichardH' post='241594' date='Jul 17 2008, 11:07 AM']No, the Eminence range have suitable drivers. I used a Gamma 15 in mine - based on Eminence's recommended volume in a vented cab it suited OK, and it certainly sounds deadly. I used a Kappa 12 for the 12" unit.[/quote]

That's a really nice cabinet you built. I doubt if you can buy anything comparable nowadays - which is one of the benefits of self-build. Please don't take this the wrong way, but it really deserves a better driver.

A big thank-you to escholl for the bridge for my Yammy. Much appreciated.

[quote name='thisnameistaken' post='240390' date='Jul 15 2008, 09:18 PM']They don't come up used very often, at least considering that practically everyone's had one at some point! Maybe people aren't too keen to let them go now.[/quote]

I've still got mine, which means this deserves a bump!

[quote name='lowhand_mike' post='241578' date='Jul 17 2008, 10:52 AM']does it HAVE to be made with EV's own drivers? if not what can you use?[/quote]

No, it's a straightforward 90-litre reflex cabinet and should work well with most 15" bass guitar speakers designed for reflex. You should avoid the higher tunings and use the 45Hz tuning irrespective of the speaker you use. I'm sure someone on here will advise on the suitability of any specific driver, but it would have to be an unusual driver not to work.

Stevie

That went so fast I almost missed it. Jazz Bass pickup arrived this morning. Looks good, measures correctly and will be in my bass this weekend.

I'd gladly take these off your hands. The bridge looks a lot better than the one that's on my Yamaha and I'd be interested in trying the stacked pickup, as the bridge pickup of my Yammy is noisy. Can't pick up, unfortunately, but I could cover the cost of post and packing, if that wouldn't be too much trouble.

[quote name='darwin' post='231546' date='Jul 2 2008, 07:42 PM']Hi, all these are hardly used from a P/J bass which never gets used so I have replaced with the original parts. All prices include recorded delivery. Paypal, cheque or cash on collection all fine.

Chrome BadAss II as new, no grooves, including the 5 original screws £40

Seymour SPB-3 Quarter Pounder Pickups for P Bass, boxed with screws and rubber thingies. £35

Seymour SJB-1 Vintage Bridge Pickup for Jazz Bass, boxed with screws. £25

Artec 2 Band Active Preamp inc instructions, stereo jack socket and stacked chrome knob for the EQ. £10
This is Vol/Balance/Stacked EQ.
I had to take this apart to fit in the control cavity, it's back to normal now, tested and fully working.
If you have any problems with this I'm happy to refund on return.

Darren[/quote]

I'll have the SJB-1, Darren. PM me your PayPal info.

[quote name='TKenrick' post='221375' date='Jun 18 2008, 01:47 PM']Here's a little bit of Anthony Jackson for you, from the Chaka Khan album 'Naughty'. Questions, comments, criticisms and suggestions are all welcome...


Enjoy![/quote]

I think such a fine piece of work deserves a 'well done' at least. Keep 'em coming. Perhaps something a bit easier next ?

[quote name='radansey' post='225368' date='Jun 23 2008, 08:59 PM']OK, similar question to other posts on here.

My Peavey TNT115s quotes 150W in 4 ohms, however getting hold of 4 ohm replacement speakers is proving difficult at present so therefore I am thinking of getting an 8 ohm. Apart from a decrease in overall gain, what are the advantages/disadvantages in doing this? Assuming that halving the impedance does not mean a halving in available gain, can assume a max gain in the region of 100W into 8 ohms? I also want to wire-in a connector to enable me to parallel-wire a second 8-ohm cabinet at a later date if required.

Ross[/quote]
Thank you for spelling impedance correctly.

[quote name='SteveK' post='224422' date='Jun 22 2008, 08:17 PM']I've got a copy (notation) and a scanner that works

If it's possible to send jpegs via PM and you want a copy, PM me.

Steve

EDIT: Can't figure out how to send attachments in PMs, any help appreciated.[/quote]

There's an Insert Image icon, but it links to a web address. I can't see how it can be done either.

[quote name='chris_b' post='223872' date='Jun 21 2008, 10:35 PM']Bass players on the Grease Soundtrack album are: Mike Porcaro, William David Hungate, Max Bennett, David Allen Ryan, Wm. J. Bodine, Dean Cortez and Harold Cowart.
John Farrar wrote You're The One That I Want and Hopelessly Devoted To You.
Toto was formed as a result of the musicians working together on the album.[/quote]

You certainly pick up some useful information on here!

[quote name='gypsymoth' post='223709' date='Jun 21 2008, 05:49 PM']it is a brilliant song - there's a couple more in there too.[/quote]

Hopelessly Devoted to You (which I think was also a Farrar song) was one of the first songs I learned on the bass (not that long ago). It's nice and easy to play, easy to read, and is so, so tasteful.

Another goodie that I find really fun to play, although it's a bit cheesie, is My First, My last, My Everything, by Barry White. Could that be Wilton? [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qc1oiER2VTE"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qc1oiER2VTE[/url]

[quote name='stevie' post='223693' date='Jun 21 2008, 05:14 PM']An Australian called John Farrar wrote it. As he was a bass player (spent a while with the Shadows), I have always assumed he played on the recording. The bass line really makes the song, I agree.[/quote]

A quick Google tells me I'm mistaken here. John Farrar was primarily a guitarist. He did have a hand in arranging the soundtrack, though.

[quote name='Jase' post='223278' date='Jun 20 2008, 09:56 PM']It's amazing!! Who played it...anyone know?[/quote]

An Australian called John Farrar wrote it. As he was a bass player (spent a while with the Shadows), I have always assumed he played on the recording. The bass line really makes the song, I agree.

[quote name='JD1' post='223660' date='Jun 21 2008, 04:13 PM']Got it. (By the way, Andrew Levy on the cover sporting a rather splendid shirt).[/quote]

If someone wouldn't mind scanning the transcription and emailing it to me, I'd really appreciate it. I'm not a tab person either.

[quote name='wizbat' post='222871' date='Jun 20 2008, 01:10 PM']Hugh Manson has been around building guitars as far as I can remember since back in the early eighties.
I first met him around 1985 and his guitars are some of the finest I,ve ever seen.
He is the man behind all those wonderfully technical guitars used by Matt Bellamy from Muse.
I,d be very suprised if you were not completely happy with anything done by him.
Hope this helps.[/quote]

I can also vouch for Hugh's reputation as one of the best luthiers in the country. Plus, he's a really nice bloke.

[quote name='redstriper' post='222571' date='Jun 19 2008, 11:38 PM']Just thought of something else -
I've got some spare 3/4" MDF sheets - would they do instead of plywood?
Also, I forgot to thank Stevie for the offer of speakon sockets - so belated thanks for that.[/quote]

I used half inch ply to get the weight down as much as possible (as Alex recommends), but there's nothing wrong with 3/4 MDF. It will probably only add about a pound or two to the total weight.

If you want to put some Speakons in the back of the Trace cab, the offer still stands. I reckon that anyone playing reggae bass in Anglesey deserves all the help they can get!http://basschat.co.uk/style_emoticons/default/laugh.gif

[quote name='redstriper' post='222564' date='Jun 19 2008, 11:26 PM']Stevie, you could be right about it being a Studio 15B - I did some research online and couldn't find a vintage 250 watt Fane speaker at all even though the guy at Fane thought it was 250 watts going from the model number.
It says 200 watts on the speaker itself, as you can see here -

These are the specs I found -

Manufacturer/ Dia. Power Z SPL Vas
Model RMS ohms 1W/1m Fs cu ft Qts xmax

Fane Studio 15B 15" 200W 8 102dB 45Hz .10 0.44 0.440"

This seems to show a high sensitivity which may explain why it's so loud.
Not sure whether there is an alternative neo speaker that would do any better all round, bearing in mind my thirst for deep dub bass.[/quote]

It sounds like the people you talked to at Fane don't remember their old drivers. The Studio 15B was a 200 watt driver with a 2.5 inch voice coil. It worked quite well and went quite low in a compact cabinet. The specs are wrong, though.
I found these:
Fs 42Hz
Le 0.6mH
Qts .37
Qms 3.8
BL 27.3Tm
VAS 128l
xmax 11.18mm

As Alex rightly points out, the xmax is wrong. I reckon it's p/p, which would make the xmax 5.5mm, which is pretty good. It's not 102dB either - I modelled it at 97dB, which is also fine. I modelled the frequency response, too, and it shows a good bass extension. I'm sure we can suggest an alternative driver that will work, if you decide to go down that path.
Fane's customer service has certainly bucked up. I don't think you'll find many manufacturers inviting you over to try stuff out. Quite impressive.

[quote name='redstriper' post='222391' date='Jun 19 2008, 06:57 PM']Thanks again Stevie, this is all very useful.

The holes are definately for jack sockets and I have seen the same amp on ebay as a stand alone head with the sockets installed, like this -

The speaker is a Fane TEF 153 250 watt 8 ohm made in 1985.

I could stick with this speaker if I can lift the cab without the weight of the amp, or I could change it for a lightweight neo alternative.

I am happy with the sound of the speaker, but it would be nice to have a little more volume before distortion at louder gigs.

Just need to find where my wife hid the toolbox and I'm in business...........[/quote]

Ah well, jack sockets it is then.

The TEF is Trace's own number, but it looks to me like the Fane Studio 15B, which was their version of the Electrovoice 15B. Fane made lots of OEM models, so you can never be sure, but Trace could tell you. It would also make it easier to find a lightweight alternative if you wanted to.

I'll post the pics of my modest conversion over the weekend. Maybe it will help.

[quote name='redstriper' post='222329' date='Jun 19 2008, 05:11 PM']The wire is not soldered to the speaker so no problem at that end and I can fit a jack plug to the cab and solder the speaker wire to it.

Re: attaching the wire from the amp to the 2 jack sockets to give the possibity of an extension cab -

Do I split the 2 wires and solder them to each socket identically and would this give 2 x 8 ohm outputs?[/quote]

The wire should be marked positive and negative in some way - either by colour or by a stripe. You solder each of the two wires to the two connectors/tabs on the first jack socket, which should also be marked positive and negative (the positive one is the one furthest from the input). You then wire from the positive and negative of the the first socket to the positive and negative of the second socket. That's it.

It might be worth checking if the holes aren't for XLR sockets rather than jacks - they could well be. If they are, the hole will be about 23mm in diameter. Let me know, because I could send you a pair of Speakons to fit. I''ve got some new ones I don't need.

For your bits and pieces like handles and feet, you could also check out the Blue Arran website, which is pretty good.

Your speaker looks like a Fane 15B, which is a very, very nice driver.