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[quote name='dood' post='1063615' date='Dec 19 2010, 03:29 PM']Cool Ahh doesn't matter, it's still the hardware (and driver's) ability to receive, process and output a sound. Again, what card are you using? - Yes I would very strongly advise using an ASIO/ASIO2 driver for it. IF the card you are using doesn't have a proprietry ASIO driver, then try ASIO4ALL - an open source project which covers most sound cards inclusing the 'EMU' processor types. Yes, the MIDI clock *isn't* the tempo track for songs etc - it simply synchronises devices. The way that you'd get all your devices to change at the same time is simple - you just need to make sure they are connected to your master sequencer and slave from it. The Sequencer can be configured and programmed so that each slave device receives on a seperate MIDI channel - this means that it will only accept messages designated for it - ie, channel 10 could be a drum machine, receiving the drum midi track from a sequencer. MIDI channel 5 could be the output of an automation track from the sequencer (or DAW) to control the MIDI enabled lighting rig. Really, you can go as in depth as you like! Going back to the likes of Guitar Rig etc - using a low latency soundcard, you could just plug your guitar straight in to a laptop and have the DAW software switch patches in time with your MIDI backing track. To answer your question, there are a number of ways of daisy chaining devices - the most obvious is to use MIDI IN / MIDI OUT / MIDI THRU connections - though you'd have to look in to seeing what the limitations of chaining multiple devices are, as I've never tested the theory with more than two or three connections.[/quote] I am using a builti-in soundcard atm, my PC is pretty dated! until I go to uni in July and then I am buying either a very high spec laptop or a mac pro, but I am unsure which atm, a windows will get me much better specs for the same price but a mac gives me freedom over two operating systems with boot camp.. altho I am thinking of windows atm. so in essence, your saying we can have a master sequencer running on a PC, and then have the master PC hooked up to other PC's and control them? and by sequencer, you do mean Cubase or another DAW, correct?

ahh right, CC messages now make sence! well I wasnt actually using any MIDI device and getting latency.. I was using an on screen keyboard that is built in to one of my synths. I dont have any ASIO drivers, though.. so im gonna be getting them for now, which will help a lot lol. also, dood, obviously as im aiming for a band format, how will we make sure that all the synths for all the band members are in time? we cant all just press play individually, it would have to be solid.. I know there is a thing called a MIDI clock which acts like a click track that can keep synths in time together but I dont know how that would press play on the transport area in Cubase with the automation laid down.

[quote name='dood' post='1062364' date='Dec 18 2010, 12:20 PM']Hi! I think in most cases including the receptor, you will need an external sequencer of some sort to trigger patch changes or control CC messages to the host. Ok, so what program are you using at the moment? As long as your program can receive and can be controlled by MIDI implementation, then yes you can either control it via a sequencer or possible via a external MIDI controller like a footboard. It depends on the level of implementation that your software contains - but as an example, I have some free looping software that I can controll just by using a USB>MIDI interface and plugging in my Roland FC200 straight in to my laptop. As for sequencers, most DAW software is capable of outputting MIDI data along with audio and say, a click track. I use REAPER and think it is brilliant. But other DAWs such as cubase could also present an external device with patch change messages and CC updates etc etc. I have seen bands go out on tour with just a PC or Mac running sequencing / Virtual Instrument support AND backing tracks.. however, when it goes down... you're stuffed unless you have a back up! Do I know how? Well yes and no - I know the basics, but it would take a lil bit of playing to figure it out totally. It's not actually that difficult, but takes time to get your tempo track together for the song with all the messages in the right place at the right time. You could liken it to sequencing a drum track in a DAW. You have the individual notes, but the CC messages also control velocity, effects, pitch bend, after touch etc etc etc. Those same CC messages can be sent externally to control say, effect delay time in a VST, WAH pedal control and as you have mentioned, turn individual pedals on and off.[/quote] At the moment I am using a VST host called Cantabile, for experimenting with what I need to do. I do have Cubase. However, Cubase is SO slow with my PC, it takes about a second from a midi keyboard for the osudn to come out, where as Cantabile is instant.. because it is used just as a VST host (dedicated) so it doesnt need any other processes going on or any need to do anything else. Cubase coming to think of it though would be much more suitable, especially since we can use automation.. I think we would be turing the pedals on/off through automation (or even just the volumes if that) and then use pitch bending and filters with automation.. Contabile is great I just think Cubase would be better for this reason.. I just have no idea where to start with it compared to Contabile! Also, Dood, you mentioned CC messages, what do you mean by these? are they just midi signals that trigger stuff? but obviously cant be heard.

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Thanks dood, that was an interesting reply! So I'm presuming, that an external click track would inout into the unit and send midi signals to trigger events, if I'm correct in saying this? As for the muse receptor, pendulum use this. Infact, they have 7 of them on at all times live (one each+vocals).. Would this trigger the vst changes internally or would it again need an external device to do such thing? The only problem tho is its price, I would need a cheaper, software version of this for now atleast! The program I have on trial atm can load as many vst's as I want, and in diffrrent racks, and have set-lists too for different songs which is all useful, and I can trigger it to goto the 'next' or previous patch in a click, which I could trigger.. The main pronblem I have with this is it just isn't hands free, or foot free.. And in some parts of our songs we need a vst to turn on for 2 bars and back off again for a while (for overdubs) which would be unreliable for me to do myself.. Do you know if this could be sequenced like you mentioned? And do you know how?

Hey guys Does anyone know of Dedicated VST Hosts, such as Cantabile.. Basically it holds your VST's (like a DAW such as Cubase would), and you can also midi trigger them to change pre-sets, so to change from FM-8 to Massive via a MIDI trigger, for example.. which ofcourse is VERY, VERY useful. (much like Guitar Rig can do) However, this isnt completely 'hands free'.. or 'foot free' Does anyone know of a VST Host that can make this change not by MIDI trigger but rather make it change itself either in time (seconds) or in bars related to a click/tempo.. Or even if you can do this process in Cantabile itself.. I know there is such a thing called a MIDI clock, or MIDI beat clock, but im unsure wether that just keeps the synths in time with eachother, or can also trigger even at certain times too? Any info would be so grateful as I really would love to know! Pendulum do this live, they have a Hardware VST Host which changes their sounds for them, hands free.. I basically would like to know how to do this via software please??

Interesting points.. I will be using both pick-ups, yes, so a clean tone and a MIDI tone And I will be keeping this bass til the death of me, it has a bit of sentimental value to myself. Clean tone for two of my projects Clean+MIDI for another project I guess I'll use my yamaha, I'll see if I can build up some love for it - it just feels so strange to play as om so used to my fender now! Maybe I'll get a cheap copy or something.. I'll see how my money pans out!

Hey guys I have a Fender Jazz Deluxe American, it was was of the 2001 factory runs with a candy tangerine finish to it its one of the two basses I own, and its my professional bass, and always will be my little baby! now I am really after a Graphtech MIDI interface, and im having a hard time deciding wether to install it into my Fender or my Yamaha RBX A2. either way, I will need to cut into the body of one of the basses to install this MIDI system, and im just wondering if I was to use the Fender as the project for this and cut into the body, will it change the tone that much? like the natural sound of the bass from the wood.. also if I use the Fender I will be buying their Jazz Saddles, will this also change the sound of the bass? all in all I will be needing to make a hole in the back of the body, to install a MIDI interface, and then the side next to the jack input to install a MIDI-out. any replies would be a great help

count me in! Brilliant idea mate!

[quote name='BigRedX' post='1037819' date='Nov 26 2010, 02:28 PM']For the lowest latency when playing live the only system really worth considering is the [url="http://www.industrialradio.com.au/index.php"]Industrial Radio[/url] one. Alternatively you could do what Tony James of Sigue Sigue Sputnik did and learnt to play just in front of the beat to compensate...[/quote] They use the same programmer that I will be buying and installing on one of my basses myself (althought they have pitch-detecting sensors in the neck which makes it better) and then I would have to buy a MIDI controller to make the connection to true MIDI (the graphtech doesnt pitch to midi in its true form, it sends "MIDI" signals to a true controller, which then sends actually MIDI signals to another source (in this case it will be my PC). I need a 13-pin MIDI controller input, with a 5-pin MIDI out. I would love one of these basses though, they actually look really nice and the LCD screen looks cool!

[quote name='pete.young' post='1037453' date='Nov 26 2010, 09:44 AM']Graphtec hexpander? [url="http://www.graphtech.com/products.html?SubCategoryID=15"]http://www.graphtech.com/products.html?SubCategoryID=15[/url][/quote] Thats what im getting mate, and then you also need a MIDI brain. This Hexpander setup sends the signals from the piezo pickups to a MIDI controller via a 13-pin connection, and THEN the MIDI brain/controller sends out real MIDI information via a 5-pin MIDI output.. the Hexpander doesnt send out straight MIDI information, which is a shame.

is the AX 50 also discontinued, though? I seen it on a few sites flagged as that. and regarding the Sonuus equipment, its got a little latency, especially on the E string anywhere below A, which isnt useful as I will need this live with as little latency as possible.. which is gonna dent my pocket in comparison!

Hey guys so im going to be buying the ghost system for one of my basses, and then i'd need a 13-pin midi controller for it.. I was thinking the Axon AX100 MKII, BUT its been discontinued for agess, and the boss VB-99 is way to expensive.. does anyone know of any others that are within the £500 and below range??

Okay, so im looking at this piece of music, and im unsure how this is actually played. I did some research, and basically its the opposite to Staccato if I am correct, whereas stacatto is where the note is played for shorter than the physical note.. and vice versa with this being longer, not shorter.. now this makes so sence to me, as surely it would just be a note with an added tie note to increase the value? the only other explanation I can think of, is that once staccato is played, this then tells you to stop playing staccato on that note from the point it is written, much like accidentals carry on for the end of the bar unless there is a natural symbol to tell you to stop the accidental values any info on this point would be really useful for me.

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