Tait

anything by blink 182.

[quote name='XB26354' post='470241' date='Apr 23 2009, 12:05 AM']I don't think you can have two paradoxes in the same paragraph [/quote] i don't know what paradox means but you probably mean when i said they both are and aren't? i wasn't sure if that worked or not, it sounded odd to me, but i went with it 'cos you all know what i'm on about.

if it gets used then im fine with it, but i cant see anyone ever using it and it being a complete waste tbh

[quote name='peteb' post='468865' date='Apr 21 2009, 05:56 PM']NO, being technically good and having "standards" is NOT the complete polar opposite to what music is supposed to be about – if you truly believe that then I really hope that I never accidentally have to see your band play![/quote] i think they both are and aren't. somtimes i think some people care so much about being technically good that they forget what music is about - being fun to make and listen to. so in that way, they are opposites. but also theyre not opposites because you have to be technically good to play good music (not necessarily good at deep theorey, but you have to be able to identify when a certain note doesn't sound right, and also need good technique, be able to get a good sound etc. which i'd all class as part of being good). it's a balance, really.

[quote name='stu_g' post='467054' date='Apr 19 2009, 10:08 PM']i have smashed a bass not on stage though it was a horrible warped neck marlin that i wouldnt have given to my worst enemy so i smashed it, this was years ago have never regretted it[/quote] when i was on my work experience at a guitar shop, there was this old cheapo acoustic that was already broken around the back. At one point, when there were no customers in the shop, the owner just randomly stood up, went and grabbed this old acoustic, came back into the main shop area and smashed it up, then kicked it's remains around the shop. It was all really funny, before he decided i was the one who had to tidy it up and hoover up all the dust and bits of wood that came off it. Anyway, the point is, smashing a guitar looks like so much fun.

[quote name='Rich' post='467023' date='Apr 19 2009, 09:28 PM']The only thing I would ever use the Stones as an example of is 'How To Be Utter Crap And Still Get Paid Shedloads'. [/quote] haha i'm with you there, but for some reason a lo of people still want to listen to them. [quote name='Rich' post='467023' date='Apr 19 2009, 09:28 PM']Why does it necessarily have to be oldies playing weird scales? Is that any worse than youngies playing weird scales?[/quote] not at all, but the point of this thread was that youngies DON'T play anything complicated, that we aren't as good as the old people were back in their day etc. etc. and all i'm saying is, that what's the point in us playing anything wierd when the public don't want to listen to that? so you oldies can go and play it if you want, but don't moan that we don't, because the general public don't want to listen to that wierd, complex musical theorey rubbish. [quote name='Rich' post='467023' date='Apr 19 2009, 09:28 PM']20/20 in both eyes, thanks and after all these years of staring at monitors & drawing boards for a living too. Thank god at least part of me still works properly [/quote]

[quote name='escholl' post='467008' date='Apr 19 2009, 09:06 PM']i voted "crass" because there was no option for "pointless" and any bass that was cheap and crappy enough for me to smash at the end of a gig, i wouldn't be playing in the first place.[/quote] unless you were planning to smash it at the end

apparently im the only one that would if its a cheap piece of sh*t. i find that hard to believe.

[quote name='stu_g' post='466961' date='Apr 19 2009, 08:14 PM']my rs900 1979 :[attachment=24074:DSC00065.JPG][attachment=24075:DSC00066.JPG][/quote] very cool

yeah, now i think about it, it is logical to use lighter strings. a fatter B string means the tension is greater for that B string, so thinner strings will make the tension less. i dunno why i thought fatter strings would be the answer, it just seemed right to me :S

have you considered one of the shuker courses? for £950 you can do a 1-2-1 course with john, and make something to your own specifications. you won't have to wait too long for the 1-2-1 course, because you only have to find a week thats good for you and john. or for £650 you can build a jazz or precision on the 5 person course, but obviously you'll have to wait longer because its a set week. they're both in your budget, and (the 1-2-1 course at least) they're absolutely brilliant courses. there have been a few members on here, me, york5stringer, and jono are the ones i know of, that have done the course, and all of us loved it. by the way, i did the course over a year ago now, and john's moved, too, so things might have changed since then, but that was the prices back then. i'm sure it'll still be an amazing week though.

[quote name='Faithless' post='466730' date='Apr 19 2009, 02:06 PM']Well, I actually like it [i]tight[/i], but, compared to my other bass, I know, that the tension on my SR [i]could [/i]be a bit lighter/lower.. Interesting thing - Paul_C advised me just opposite - lighter strings.. And, you kno', at the moment I'm using 50-135, and you could hardly get even [i]thicker [/i]strings, well, at least, I couldn't..[/quote] probably is lighter strings then, i can't say i know much about the difference in strings tbh, i've been using the same type of strings for ages, ernie ball super slinkies, although now i say that, i'm using hybrid slinkies on my taitycaster atm, which i prefer. not that that makes any difference to you whatsoever. anyway, yeah, i'd go for lighter strings then, because my guess is that paul_c knows better than me.

[quote name='Faithless' post='466639' date='Apr 19 2009, 11:52 AM']I thought, I'd pop here in, as I have a problem with my Ibby.. It's about string tension and MR-IV bridge on my SR1005 Prestige.. Well, I've started playing on bridge pup a la Jaco style (heavy diggin' in), and I feel that string tension by the bridge pup is just too high/heavy - it's not comfortable at all, if you try to 'dig in'... So, I was curious, if there's any way to lower the string tension? My Ibby has MR-IV bridge (if it does make sense)..[/quote] it is very tight, i like it personally, but i can understand not liking it. wouldn't thicker (i forget the term now) strings do the job? i dunno why, particularly, but that was what i thought of as soon as i read your post. EDIT: btw, i don't think i've posted pics of my beloved ibby on here, yet. i'll take some later, or tommorow or something.

[quote name='EssentialTension' post='466702' date='Apr 19 2009, 01:09 PM']I didn't mean to be criticising your point LW. To be honest I'd always assumed the Pistols couldn't really play and that Spedding didn't just produce it but also played the guitar parts in the studio, with other session guys. I found the quotation when I was trying to establish that he did play the guitar parts. It looks like I was wrong. Not all of us, I'm 57. Most of the moans about 'youth of today' that I've heard in this and other threads I've been hearing ever since I was a teenager. They were wrong then and they are wrong now (IMNSHO). Mind you, I don't quite get the ERB thing - however old the person playing it is.[/quote] sure, i know you weren't critisicing my point, i was just saying that i hadn't read that and i hadn't put much thought into the band i said, just the first example that popped into my head. turns out i was wrong in that instance, the Sex Pistols could play, or at least according to Spedding. and the whole ERB thing was a joke, i won't even play a 5 string, never mind an ERB. oh, and please don't call me LW call me Tait, thats what most of people call me. I might get the mods to change my username to Tait sometime, it's easier to say for a start.

[quote name='skankdelvar' post='466510' date='Apr 19 2009, 02:40 AM']Acquiring and assimilating knowledge with greater ease and convenience is surely a good thing. What are they suppose to do - ignore it? Walk ten miles to school everyday rather than take the bus or accept a lift? (Me, I lived in a septic tank at the bottom of a lake. Tell young people that...) That's a fault which is by no means exclusive to younger musicians. Even rarer in my experience is the older musician who practices enough and pushes themselves. God, I envy the energy and commitment that the young put into their music, whatever their motivation for so doing. How many of us Old Bobs strapped on a guitar to explore 'modes'? We (mostly) did it to get looked at and get laid. If anything, I see more commitment to musicality today, rather than less. These errors are gigantically obviously by no means exclusive to younger musicians. They may make 'mistakes' and they may be inexperienced and they may still be learning their craft, but I'd rather they were making mistakes on a real bass than on a Guitar Hero Controller. And, given the plethora of cheap electronic tuners and better constructed instruments, I suspect more bands today are in tune at concert pitch than 20 years ago. A few months ago, I replied to a post by a young musician who was bitching about 'old guys slagging off the young' and assured them I hadn't seen much of that. Clearly I was wrong. I intend no personal disrespect or offence when I say I find certain propositions as I've read here to be unsubstantiated, anecdotal and unhelpful in that they rarely propose a solution. Beyond that, I see no benefit to our community in marginalising the players who will be making music while oldies like me are being helped off the bed-pan.[/quote] +1 I really can't what everyone's problem with it being "easier" is. Do you do everything you do in the most difficult way possible? If we CAN make life easier for ourselves, we will. No point doing it the hard way. [quote name='EssentialTension' post='466561' date='Apr 19 2009, 09:52 AM']Chris Spedding who produced the first Sex Pistols demo thought they could play (minus Sid). He claims his demos were remixed to make it sound as if they couldn't play: Quote: Spedding explains, They are not the same mixes that I did. Dave Goodman, the other producer besides Chris Thomas, went in and re-did them and added a lot of echo to them and added stuff to them. So they'd been marketed as the Spedding tapes, but they are not really my mixes. The mixes I did sound better. I'm quite proud of the Sex Pistols demos, especially when compared to their other later recordings. On my demos you can hear everything quite clearly - the bass and drums are really audible plus you can actually hear what the rhythm and lead guitars are doing. Part of why they (McLaren and the Pistols) didn't like my demo was that because I like R&B, I highlighted their rhythm tracks with a big bass drum and bass aound, particularly because Matlock had some intensely played bass runs. They wanted a guitar soup. I think that whenever you've got an interesting rhythm section like that, a band sounds like they can actually play, and since that was the whole point of my demo - to prove they could play - that's what I pushed. When you have a guitar soup, which is what the demo they recorded later sounds like, you have to face the fact that someone's trying to cover up the fact that they can't play. And that's what McLaren wanted people to think that they couldn't play, that was just an idea, a way of making all this anarchy stuff happen. [url="http://www.chrisspedding.com/session/sp/sp.htm"]Source here[/url] Unquote[/quote] I've never read that before. The Sex Pistols were just the first example that popped into my head, I didn't mean it as an attack on them in particular. And, yeah, Glen Matlock's a pretty good bass player, I'll admit. But most bands as big as the Sex Pistols were in those days - as in, you can buy their albums in shops, if you ask around their TMG (i dunno if the term TMG applies to music, but you know what i mean) most of them will have heard of them etc. - don't make the mistakes that people were moaning about, such as being out of tune. They have technicians and people to do that for them, for a start. And it's not difficult to get a cheap electric tuner that does the job. It's only amature bands that are out of tune, or make most of the mistakes. And the Sex Pistols weren't exactly an amature band. Old people, eh. If theyre not moaning about ERB's then they're doing their "youth of today" speech. EDIT: oh, and good post andy67.

[quote name='obbm' post='466353' date='Apr 18 2009, 08:04 PM']At the risk of repeating myself...[/quote] you, sir, have an excellent taste in basses, not a bad looking one in the lot.

[quote name='Rich' post='466387' date='Apr 18 2009, 09:21 PM']"The public don't want to listen to a bunch of oldies"..? Really?[/quote] the rolling stones dont count. on a more serious note, you didn't quote the whole sentence there, you took it out of context, to make it sound like im arguing something different than i am. i said the public dont want to listen to oldies playing wierd scales that dont sound right, which they dont, not that they dont want to listen to oldies. i suppose your eyesight just isn't what it used to be though

i'm guessing the band members you want to invite to join this new band also want to do bigger venues and up their game? im just asking because you said they're only doing it as a hobby and aren't bothered.

[quote name='captain black' post='449161' date='Mar 30 2009, 01:41 AM']I've noticed a proliferation in the numbers of 'Dads Bands' around at the minute. ... Anyway....Rant over. Ps. Apologies to anyone who helps out with their son's band but you get my point.[/quote] sorry, but if we don't have cars and are taking gear to a gig, and have willing parent's, doesn't it make sense for our parent's to take us to the gig? and if our parents know what they're doing, why shouldn't they help out? what's the point in getting the bus then walking 6 miles or whatever else you claim you used to do, when my dad's perfectly willing to take me? and how often do you honestly see the kid doing nothing at all, just standing around looking vaguely interested? i've never seen it, the teenagers tend to do something, even if its just learning how to do it for the future. another thing i'd like to add is how do you lot who are saying "kids only want to be as good as they need to be to get a record deal", know that thats what the kids want? if you came to see me at a gig, you'd probably think i only want to be as good as i have to be to get a record deal, but thats part of being in a band - playing as a band, giving each other room to do what they want, it's not a competition to see who can look most skilled on stage, its about playing songs. songs, not bass solos. if you saw me practising, i can play a lot more and a lot flashier than i do when im on stage, but that doesn't sound right. also, how many of you oldies play in bands where you write music that is both enjoyable to listen to, and is complicated or different? i thought not, the public don't want to listen to a bunch of oldies playing wierd scales that don't quite sound right. they want to listen to catchy rythms o songs that make them feel something. and my last point is that i could easily name a few bands that were terrible when you old people were young, the sex pistols are the first that srping to mind (i just wanna say that i mean terrible as instrumentalists, i actually quite like the sex pistols' music). are you really telling me that music today is even more basic and has lower standards than those of the sex pistols?

i found this when learning to play hit me with your rythm stick. have to tried raising/lowering your bass? that and playing less sorted it for me.

[quote name='Adrenochrome' post='463504' date='Apr 15 2009, 10:59 PM']No I don't agree, I'm sure that you (and me for that matter) just haven't discovered the current good stuff yet![/quote] yeah i know, i was joking, to an extent, anyway. for instance, last year i went to rock city at least once every 2 months, if not more, and i know that doesnt sound like that often, but i only went to see bands i like. ive not seen a single band this year, and ive been watching the rock city and nottingham arena websites to see if theres anyone i like on. the closest thing is bloc party in october, and im not even a huge fan of them. i just find a lot of modern music doesn't appeal to me. and to add to the point, last gig i saw was paul weller. and same for buying albums, pretty much every time i went into town, there'd be a CD i'd want (although often i didnt have enough money to actually buy one ) but now i can look for ages through HMV or wherever, and not see a single album that appeals to me. EDIT: oh, for anyone who doesn't know what im on about, rock city is a venue in nottingham.

[quote name='thisnameistaken' post='463469' date='Apr 15 2009, 10:23 PM']You'll probably find that people from all previous generations are doing the same thing, and complaining that modern music is rubbish. It isn't, of course, it's just that you're old.[/quote] no... it is. i can't think of a really good album thats come out in the last 6 months, i don't think ive bought one.

audere can do i think

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[quote name='beerdragon' post='462247' date='Apr 14 2009, 04:16 PM']He also has this on ebay, [url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Alembic-Omega-3-John-Paul-Jones-2008_W0QQitemZ220392990937QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Musical_Instruments_Guitars_CV?hash=item220392990937&_trksid=p3911.c0.m14&_trkparms=72%3A1683|66%3A2|65%3A12|39%3A1|240%3A1318"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Alembic-Omega-3-John...%3A1|240%3A1318[/url][/quote] made in 2008 and took him over a year to get? he's only had that a couple of months tops, then, if thats true. wonder why he's selling it.