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[quote name='silddx' post='735258' date='Feb 4 2010, 05:01 PM']Understood, but what if you need three very different tones for one song, live? That's the sort of thing you may do in the studio all the time, but live? At one point last year I had up to five patches per song per set, with different eqs and effects. One bass all the way through, with onboard eq/pup tweaks too. There is nothing at all wrong with extreme eq. Bootsy doesn't seem to think so anyway.[/quote] If I need different sounds within a song, I'll use finger dynamics and hand placement, this is on a fairly standard pop/rock/funk gig that is. If I need a bassier/dub sound, I'll move my picking hand towards the neck, perhaps use my thumb. Need a tighter, more mid sound, play near the bridge. If I need some bite/overdrive, I'll play a lot harder over the neck pickup as I have my tube on my ashdown at 3 o'clock. This allows me to sound clean when I want to, but breaks up beautifully when played hard!. In my personal experience, any different sounds and tone further to that are generally so subtle that they'll be lost in the band mix or over the PA. I have started messing around with my Boss Multi-FX again because I'm going to start playing for a hip-hop/electonica band soon (first rehearsal tonight actually), just some chorus, wah and octave sounds going on.....but I've got a feeling that over a large sound system and with the other warbly noises going on in the mix, I'll find myself playing straight into my amp. Si

For me it's actually less about a problem with digital vs analogue. They're both a head on top of a cab, and again, 'better' is subjective. My main issues are with extreme EQ'ing through necessity and loadsa pedals just to get a basic workable tone. Si

Thats the thing, everyone is different, some harder to please than others. But as long as the individual is happy, thats all that counts. And I've played some nice Ibanez'.........but the Ergodyne series was mainly horrible to me lol Just for the purpose of the thread, here's my checklist in order 1) Tone/comfort/playability (they are all important to me equally, the sum is greater than the parts and all that noise) 2) Looks (I have preferences, but not at the expense of point 1) Lovely Si

[quote name='silddx' post='735129' date='Feb 4 2010, 03:20 PM']Not many basses have a "crap" tone though do they? Unless you use a Satellite or something, the bass tone is going to be usable.[/quote] Well of course there are basses with crap tone......because these things are completely subjective. I may hate someones Ibanez Ergodyne bass (eeeuugugghghhh shudder), and someone might hate my Jazz's tone. Si

[quote name='silddx' post='735102' date='Feb 4 2010, 02:53 PM']Is "your sound" appropriate in all situations you need it to be? Would I be able to recognise your sound?[/quote] Obviously you have to cater for the musical situation that you're in at any given time. But lets face it, there isn't a great deal of deviation usually, a tweat of EQ here, some subtle chorus there. I have a basic, 'core tone' that I'm very happy with and I can build and embellish on that if necessary. If you have a bass that, at it's most unaffected, sounds completely different to what you hear in your head, you're just adding sounds on top of bad sounds...polishing a turd if you like. Then a pedal dies mid-gig and you're back to horrible tone. I'm certainly not saying you're wrong, I just couldn't gig like that Oh and I do think that not many people have a recognisable 'sound', it's how they as a player utilises that sound, the marriage of their fingers and their tone. Si

It would seem a shame to me that I couldn't get 'my sound' or certainly a sound that I was happy with unless I was sat in front of a digital amp, EQ pointing in all directions and a load of pedals at my feet. I would much prefer to have a bass that gave me a tone that pleased me whilst plugged into any amp, EQ flat and no effects. Then any extra sounds and tools I needed could be added appropriately. But needing many pedals, masses of EQ etc just to sound like a particular bass seems like there's a lot more to go wrong in your rig than there is in mine . In fact, whenever I'm trying a new bass through my rig, I rarely touch EQ (I rarely touch it anyway), if the bass doesn't sound good with pretty much flat EQ, I probably won't be interested. I do agree however, that if you're going through a PA, all you can hope for is a pleasing tone onstage, everything else is at the mercy of the FOH engineer. Si

Should we start a 1973 Fender Owners Club? haha Si

Amateur promoters are the bane of the live music industry, there should be some kinda certificate needed to put shows on lol. All you have to say is that you don't wanna play the show because you're not interested in breaking any Licensing Laws, which you're causing the pub to do by-proxy. What if they have an inspection that night? That's their licence gone. Partly their own fault for allowing this charlatan to promote again, but hey, you don't have to be a part of it! Hope the other gig comes through! Si

[quote name='99ster' post='733384' date='Feb 2 2010, 07:56 PM']Here's what this one would have looked like 50 years ago... [attachment=41730:p2_us4vcjxya_so.jpg][/quote] Wow, that is in rediculous condition isn't it! Worth a bum-load! Si

Let me know when you want to sell it mate? Oh and I do think there is such a thing as Gas Free......it's just that vintage instruments don't count! Si

I've only tried one Levinson Blade, and that was £900 second hand (at the Bass Merchant), so could possibly be a different model, but I thought it was great! If I didn't dislike active basses a great deal, I would have seriously considered it because the neck and general feel was excellent. Definitly would have one over a MIM. But for £500 you're almost in second hand US Fender territory, so maybe save up some more to broaden your choices!? Si

youtube is wonderful Si

Its all a bit squelchy for me! But I love Daft Punk.....so it's all good Si

It could be that he writes some really cool lines and you learn from it!? Ask him why he wants no input from you! And if he is genuinely just wanting people to play his stuff note for note....in that instance, I would want paying for each gig and rehearsal. Si

On my 2003 3-tone sunburst jazz, if you remove the scratchplate, underneath is two-tone sunburst. Apparently to save money on red paint!?. I don't know whether they would have employed that kind of money-saving technique in 1960!? So potentially, whether it's two-tone or not under the scratchplate may or may-not be relevant. Si

[quote name='wateroftyne' post='732579' date='Feb 2 2010, 09:30 AM']A 2T 'burst Jazz, you say? Never heard of that one![/quote] Well that's what I was thinking! Would still be lush though Si

Man, a 2 tone Jazz bass would be my aesthetic dream! Si

Looking forward to following this! Si