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On 23/03/2024 at 09:45, Geek99 said:

The neck and body aren’t from the same place so I expected a bit of trouble - 

probably neck pocket isn’t shallow enough and it’s original neck was thinner 

Did everyone just ignore this?

Yes, you need to shim the whole pocket in this case. 

6 hours ago, fretmeister said:

was in a very good band with a great guy but his problem is that he never thought a song was finished.

Even when we played together again after an 18 year break he was still saying songs we had gigged in a set form for years were not finished.

I'm currently in the same situation. We cycle through musicians regularly, and extra bars get added and removed each week.

Intros and endings are different each time we play a tune.

I don't even know what musicians will be at each practice. Last week a new drummer I'd never met before. Same the week before. 🤣

1 hour ago, Mickeyboro said:

It’s yours truly😮

Ah. I said in another post. If the drummer and bass don't work together, you do t have a band. 

I spent too many years in a band thinking I was the bad player, won't be doing that again given a choice. As soon as I left and started playing with other drumemrs I realised where the issues were.

Maybe the drummer has found that out as well. 

1 hour ago, Mickeyboro said:

he is suggesting he might have made a mistake.

Sounds reasonable. 

So you played? Just not with the drummer? 

How did it go?

@peteb

Agree. 

A jam night 'should' be a group of musicians playing over a chord progression and bouncing off each other.

An open night is where people bring their material to perform.

However, I'm finding the youngsters aren't able to jam, and it's more usual to be playing standards that everyone is familiar with, but still swaping around musicians. 

A well run Jam night requires a leader to schedule people in and out after each song. 

There's no reason why @Geek99 shouldn't have had a spot, regardless of how late they were. It's the job of the organiser to ensure everyone gets a shot. 

Theory is a model.

You can use a model to predict what might happen given a set of initial conditions.

You can use a model to explain why something happened.

Music is an art. If you want perfection be an aeronautical engineer. 

There are 2 aspects  playing.

The first is your ability to actually play. Technique, ear training, theory knowledge, encyclopedia of standards.

The second is playing with people of similar or better ability. 

The first is fairly simple and you have to get to a certain standard before move the second. There's loads of resources on the Internet. Listen to the radio and 'learn' standard songs in your head. 

The second is tough when you're first starting out. 

It's a whole new ball game playing with others, as you have found. You just have to go with the flow. Other musicians will not be playing what you're expecting them to play and you have to adjust to that.

Don't beat yourself up, especially at a jam, no one knows what's going on and you're not a mind reader. You're learning how to play with other people. Each person will be different.  

It's particularly hard if you're playing with musicians who don't have 'big ears'. 

19 hours ago, bassbloke said:

When I say I don't get him, what I mean is that I struggle with the fact that someone whose career includes excellent work in Suicidal Tendencies, Infectious Grooves and Black Label Society and stints with  Jerry Cantrell and Ozzy Osbourne seems to have regressed so much as a player.

Others are talking about serving the song. 

He has to fit with the band when he is on stage. That's his job. I'm sure he plays other music when not playing Metallica. 

13 minutes ago, Greg Edwards69 said:

Same here. Mine frequently transitions to an 'outer dialogue' when I'm alone... or I think I am. I frequently have conversations with myself when I'm riding my bike to and from work

Maybe it's similar to when you go to sleep and your brain disconnects from your arms and legs so you don't act put your dreams. 

That spectacularly fails with some people.

A friend of my brother got drunk one night and sleepwalked in his pyjamas, took his mum's car keys and drove her car straight into the skip it was parked behind. Weird that he hadn't taken his own car. The police turned up and I'm not sure what the outcome of the trial was. Think he had to get doctors reports to corroborate he sleepwalked a lot.

The whole area will probably be gridlocked tomorrow until after midday.

4 hours ago, PaulThePlug said:

Inner Monologue

You say monologue, I say dialogue.

Let's call the whole thing off.

3 hours ago, miles'tone said:

Is this normal? Do you recall songs in your head in the keys they are really in? 

Nothing is normal. Could be common 🤣

I find transposing keys is annoying. But only if it's transposed from a 'flat' key to a 'natural' or 'sharp' key.

and yes, songs sound odd to me if they're not in the 'original' key.

Lots of the Rush live material began to actually annoy me. Maybe that's because it feels wrong when singing along to it. 

5 minutes ago, Dad3353 said:

 

Is there any other way..? I've never thought of it, but I can't imagine how one may not do this (nor yet silence that little voice incessantly rattling away between one's ears...). 

Some people just play by shapes or read the dots.

Certainly my playing leaped ahead when I sang the notes in my head amd concentrated on intervals, before  even picking up the bass. 

On 14/02/2024 at 23:42, JPJ said:

What’s more important is SPL. A lot of the 12” & 15” plastic box speakers are around 128dB whereas their wooden sisters are often around 132dB.

This is what to look at. 

Also, if you do look at Watts, look at distortion %age at 1khz they don't always quote the same figures.

3 minutes ago, Chiliwailer said:

Could be a form of echolalia? 

No. I think that's different. 

The same people often move their lips while reading. It's a neurological connection.

Everyone is different, we don't all work the same way, in last few years we are learning that no one is 'normal'. That's tough on people who want everyone to fit into their world view.

A lot of non-musicians can't identify the different instruments playing in a tune. Everything is just one homogenous sound. 

59 minutes ago, Woodinblack said:

If you can hear music in your head and as you say, I assume everyone does* how can you not hear 'new music', ie, any other tune your head has made up?

 

* I was suprised when i learned that not everyone had their voice in their head, so maybe I am wrong about people being able to hear music in their head.

6 minutes ago, OliverBlackman said:

When you say hear your voice do you mean the tonality/ accent we talk with or just talking to yourself? I’ve also assumed everyone can compose/ have conversations in their head, what else do people do?

It's called an inner dialogue. Not everyone has it. 

I find it a real pain. Wish it would just stop sometimes. 

Notice some people repeat out loud what you're saying, slightly behind you saying it. I belive they don't have an inner dialogue and are processing what you're saying by vocalising it out loud. Although that may be a different phenomena and I'm misremembering. 

Changed my mind.

5 minutes ago, peteb said:

Generally, you know people by reputation or you get a call from someone that you played on the same bill with somewhere. 

Yes. Been a bit of a mix for me. I have a big network where I live now but I moved into a new area while I was playing in a band long-term. When I left the band it's taken me a few years to build a new network. 

If you move into a new area or are just starting out, then there's probably going to be a period of looking around. 

Newstead (and Trullio) and Metallica is a completely different box of sandman.

Big name established band, they'll be inviting people to audition, not sticking an advert on Bandmix or Joinmyband.

It depends on what standard they are. The standard of musicians I'm looking for would be able to play music they'd never heard before from charts, and at least jam to a good standard over changes.

Then it's about whether the bass and drums lock. The singer and guitar can think whatever they want. If bass and drums doesn't work - it won't work. 

Finally is there a relaxed atmosphere while you're playing and chatting?

Oh, and how many fights has the singer had...

28 minutes ago, BigRedX said:

 

When I try and view it in my usual browser (I have a separate browser just for looking at Facebook and nothing else). I get a massive pop-up covering the content asking me to log in and accept cookies.

There is a tiny white cross hidden in the top right. Designed to fool people into believing they have to sign up. 

Common behaviour on a lot of sites now. Should be banned. 

You don't have to have Facebook to see it.

It's a group with 360k members posting pictures and asking questions about bass guitars.