TimR

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Electrical_characteristics_of_dynamic_loudspeakers

Some odd conclusions being drawn here.

The nominal impedance of a speaker is just the lowest resistance. At its resonant frequency it will have max impedance. In practice speakers are receiving complex AC waveforms and their actual impedance seen by the amplifier will be tens of ohms.

The wire that a speaker is made from is extremely thin, and will burn out well before any connectors or 1.5mm² flex will. And that will be for a different reason. 

For long runs you should be using powered speakers, not running tens of  metres of twin flex. 

You guys clearly haven't watched Final Destination... 😆

The point is; the gates to the neutral and live will now remain open when you remove the transformer, until you remove the pencil. The original 'earth' pin would have been plastic and only there to open the gates.

You could then drop all sorts of metallic objects into the socket by accident. Or if your fingers are small enough they could be pushed in. 

Only needs for the transformer to be doslodged while you change a string, when one end of the string just happens to flick into the live, and you have the ideal recipie for a scene from Final Destination, or The Omen. 😆

On 31/05/2025 at 23:02, chyc said:

Using the cable as a guitar lead will not work out so well as the cable will be unshielded so you'll get a lot of unwanted interference added to your signal so bear that in mind if you want the cable for double duty.

I had to read this twice.

Don't use Instrument leads for your speakers or Speaker leads for your guitar. They are not interchangeable, you can't use them for 'double duty'. 

AND if your speakers are powered, don't use speaker leads between your mixer and the speakers. Use 2 core twisted sheilded pair with XLR or TRS jacks. 

I can't work out if you're being serious or not. 😆

Just in case you are: Kids, don't do this! 

1 hour ago, chris_b said:

 

You're missing the point. Demanding a dep turns up with the same instrument and trousers makes no sense. A dep is not a member of your band, he's sitting in and getting the band through a gig(s) that otherwise they would have to cancel. He gets you out of the hole so the promoter, the audience and the rest of the band are not disappointed.

 

I'd be very surprised if any audience knows or cares when a bass player turns up with a 4 string bass rather than a 6 string bass.

 

Of course no dep is going to be a clone and if that's what you demand, then all you can do is cancel any gig the whole band can't do. Most bands are not in that situation. Being a clone is not what deps or this thread is about.

One of the things is I do when I dep is ask for a dress code. I don't want to be the bass player in the wrong band. 

I have 2 basses, I won't be hiring or buying one for a dep gig, I'm happy to borrow the bands regular bass player's bass if it's that important, but I've never done a Tribute band so it's never come up. 

On 18/05/2010 at 10:04, tauzero said:

If it pisses down, don't play. It's not just the 240V wandering round looking for a handy route to ground, it's also the slippery stage/ground that provides a hazard. If it's just drizzle, make an informed decision.

These are wise word. 

We have had issues where the guitarist went down quite hard when he shifted weight to reach his pedals. 

If you have a vocalist who moves around a lot or jumps up and down, that's another potential disaster.

If it's a raised stage you have potential to fall quite a long way.

Plus playing to reduced size crowd because they all stayed at home,  huddled under trees in the corners of the feild or are hiding under umbrellas, isn't fun. 

Depends if its a one-off dep, or someone who is "second call" who does gigs when your main player can't play.

There are plenty of musicians who are strictly too good to be playing regularly  in amateur bands but are happy to stand in on occasion. 

I've done plenty of dep gigs at short notice. If it's get a dep in or cancel the gig, you have to weigh up the risk of another band getting their foot in the door and nicking potential gigs down the pipeline, and putting on a show that might not be to your standard but the punters won't realise. 

We are human beings.

Talk.

Face to face. 

2 hours ago, Paddy Morris said:

For instance I was wondering if tying either safety earth or tech earth to a local earthing spike near the stage might made a difference?

What kind of generator is being supplied? Often they don't get earthed, but they should be. 

The signal and safety earth should be the same thing as the amps will use the normal earth. 

If your main mixer has a spare aux out, you can mic everything and send yourself a dedicated sub mix. Those mics don't need to go to the front of house mix. 

If you don't have a spare AUX and your mixer has inserts there is a way of 'normalling' the output by using a mono jack and not pushing it all the way in (just to the first click) to give a send to another mixer without interrupting the signal path inside the first mixer, and dispensing with the need to have a return.

50 minutes ago, Stub Mandrel said:

And... the one issue when in more than one band. I just got asked to a rehearsal for a gig I hadn't been told about on 5 July. 

 

I have another gig in the diary and I'm committed to that, so the others are going to have to find a dep.

I recently got a message from the leader of one band that I was kind of in. Basically standing in until they found a permanent bass player. With date and details of a gig he'd booked us for. 

It confuses me how some of these people ever got organised enough to learn how to play an instrument. 

45 minutes ago, Mickeyboro said:

I’ll just re-state my original question, as it’s three pages back…

 

Can a band thrive if most of its members have other, clearly more interesting/lucrative interests? If so, how do you manage/motivate them?

What came first? 

Have they drifted off to other bands, or were they in other bands and your band is an extra or a side project? 

If it's the first, then you have to ask them what is it you're not providing for them to be looking for extra.

If it's the second, what did you promise them, and are you delivering that? 

What do you mean by thrive? How many gigs are you planning? Have you booked those gigs? 

In my experience, I lose a huge amount of interest if the band leader is waiting for the band to be gig ready, and waiting, and waiting... And probably a failing on my part, I'm not going to be putting loads of effort into a band that has no gigs on the horizon.

I have been in 3 bands several times. 

However, it is down to the individual to recognise if they have time to commit equally to all the bands. 

In my case the bands didn't each rehearse each week and gigs were few and far between in each of them.

Which was what led me to find another band/accept an offer. Plus I would do dep gigs.

So if these members are too busy to play in your band due to the workload from the other bands, then they really need to have a conversation as to whether they really do have time to be in multiple bands.

Were they in your band first? ie is it lack of gigs that's made them look elsewhere. 

Did they join your band because you offered them gigs?

OR do they just want to turn up and practice the tunes at rehearsals and are not that keen of gigging.

If you're getting frustrated then speak to each one separately away from rehearsal and ask them what are they expecting from the band. Find out if you are aligned. 

If not, start auditioning new members and make it very clear what you're trying to achieve with the band, and what levels of commitment you want, how often you want to gig, rehearse and that you expect people to have *bare-boned the songs before coming to rehearsals.

*Don't expect people to learn tunes at home and for the tunes to work straight away. Rehearsals are to iron out the arrangements. 

You're not going to look like Arnie unless you eat loads of protein, lift massive weights all day. 

The farmers walk is the two handed version of the suitcase carry. I farmers walk my 2 cabs in, otherwise most of the stuff carried in is either a suitcase carry or 'box carry' - which is essentially a goblet squat and carry.

I usually spend at least an hour revising the set in the afternoon before a gig.

So by the end of a gig day I will probably have spent close on 4 hours of playing. 

I'm wondering how many of us do 30minutes a day of practice. 

Recovery does take longer. Making sure you get full 8 hours sleep each night in the week should help. 

I run marathons - but don't like to talk about it...

I'd suggest getting into kettlebells. 

You only need one to start with and there are loads of routines on YouTube. Something with a deadlift, a swing, and a clean and press. Those 4 movements will build core strength and give you a good cardio workout at the same time. Throw in a suitcase carry and at least a 20minute walk a day (although I appreciate you have breathing issues). 

We all need to have functional strength to carry gear, load in and out and stand for a few hours. 

You can get a DI box for £20.

27 minutes ago, tauzero said:

 

The post I replied to isn't.

I assumed they were referencing the previous posters... from 8 years ago...

17 hours ago, SweetWilliam said:

I am new to the xr18 and am having trouble with monitor volume control.  I have viewed a number of vids and do not have the screen needed to click on "utility" icon and there I am stopped. Surely it's an easy fix...., what am I  missing?

Try this thread.

17 minutes ago, tauzero said:

 

What Behringer haters? The X-Air series are much loved on BC.

This thread is 8 years old...

Great update. I read the first post and was sure it was familiar. 🤣

My motivation to play when I don't have a gig lined up is probably the same as most of us. I've been playing long enough now that picking up the bass after a few weeks off is no great shakes, certainly for the standard I play at. 

I think just playing along to YouTube with "following track autoplay" switched on is quite a good exercise in ear training. You get no warning what's coming up next, you may never have heard the song before. The first verse and chorus are finding the chords, the next time round, maybe parts of bass lines, etc. Then it's on to the next track...

On 08/06/2025 at 18:16, solo4652 said:

I went to his house for a chat

...and you didn't play any music at all?