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35 minutes ago, Burns-bass said:

This kid has made a mistake.

 

I wonder if any one of these guys has reached out to him and asked if he’s ok?

 

He’s a real person. A flawed one for sure and one who’s probably very ashamed at what he’s done. But he’s in a vulnerable spot.

 

Maybe that’ll be the next video, eh?

My understanding is he was called out about it a long time ago. Showed no signs of reining in, and just doubled down. 

I'm 56, I don't own a CD player.

I do buy T-shirts if they look good and I can wear it in the high street or pub without looking odd, stand out or edgy.

There might be mileage in producing CD like cardboard inserts with a personal userID and link to a download area containing special editions and bonus tracks not available on Spotify. People can then visit the area, sign in with their userID. Then either add that to their Spotify app as a download or burn to a CD.

However, the point of having free sharable music, is that your audience grows exponentially through word of mouth and then people come to your gigs, buy t-shirts and tickets. Important now that hardly anyone listens to the Charts...

It used to be very noticeable when playing in pits, and when recording. I don't think I've ever noticed it in pub bands. 

Sometimes you can become sensitised to things, once you hear them, you can never unhear them...

If only there were some kind of age verification system in place...

The whole problem with the Internet, is you cannot identify the person you are communicating with. Even the banks who have tons of fraud prevention measures in place, cannot be 100% sure. 

18 minutes ago, rwillett said:

You are correct that most will be, I hadn't considered that, but how are Ofcom going to know?

 

If they develop a Web crawler, does it respect the robots.txt file? 

 

This is going to be very difficult for them to police. 

 

 

 

 

It's very easy to 'police'. Someone complains, they investigate. 

If your moderators have been doing their job, you won't have an issue in the first place. If something does slip past the moderators, the very fact you have active moderators with policies in place protects you and any children. 

No one is going to be patrolling the Internet looking for problems in the off chance they'll find them. 

2 minutes ago, jonnybass said:

What crime has been committed? Pretending to play guitar isnt illegal.  

 

Jonny

Technically its fraud if people are paying you money to do it. He's not just "pretending to play guitar". 

But, I was just commenting on the fact that proceeds are often recovered.

1 minute ago, peteb said:

 

That rarely happens for white collar crimes, especially in finance and related fields. 

 

Often it will be the cost and likelihood of recovery vs the amount recovered.

No one is going to pay thousands of pounds to recover a few YouTube royalties.

Just now, Cato said:

 

I don't think any has said that he didn't do anything wrong.

 

I'm just not sure the situation requires every music adjacent youtuber and tik tokker in the world to make their own video on how absolutely awful what he did is.

 

It all seems rather performative, like being seen to be outraged has become more important than the original crime.

It's just jumping on the latest trend.

Beato wasn't going to do anything until loads of people hassled him. 

A lot of the YouTubers had interviewed him and been taken in by him, so guess they do have a personal axe to grind. 

52 minutes ago, Beedster said:

 

Show me where else the same is true - certainly not in banking fraud, tax avoidance etc - and also tell me who would enforce it?

The procedes of crime are quite often (if not usually) confiscated. 

25 minutes ago, Supernaut said:

Not sure why there are people upset that this guy was caught stealing music and profiting from it. Guilty of the same thing? 

I think he's miming to unknown artists work and passing it off as his own. 

That's not the same as playing cover versions in a pub, where the original artist is known and is probably getting performing rights payments. 

Nor is it the same as Mini Vanilli, miming to a bunch of recordings someone else wrote and played, and was paid for knowing that would happen.

Not to mention countless musicians who were sneaked in the back door while the band were having a break, to ghost play on recordings, and not even the band realised it wasn't them on the record and probably still don't know to this day.

12 hours ago, super al said:

Looks like the option is "we'll make you look like a Muppet but you're gonna lose a string" (my 5 string Lakland got turned into a regular old Jazz bass with an extra pick up!).

I definitely look better and happier as a Muppet but can I have my string back please?

You have an extra finger on your right hand as well!

Or Jam Evening. Too early for me I'm afraid but would have been good to pop along. 

14 hours ago, ASW said:

In my view the volume is set by the acoustic drum kit and the other instruments and vocals need to balance with that. How does the vocalist line check to "get the right volume" if they are unaware of how loud the drums sound in the venue?

Not in a pub. Trying to get everything as loud as a drummer who is trying to fill the pub will always lead to feedback and the rest of the band not being able to balance their sound and/or hear each other. 

Get the vocal mic level right first. That's just a case of ringing it out and finding the feedback point. 

Sounds like your whole band are fairly new to this, or haven't been playing long together. 

At rehearsals you should be playing at an appropriate volume and getting used to how the balanced band should sound.

Too many rehearsals and consequently gigs descend into loudness wars. If you can't get it right in rehearsals you'll never get it right at gigs.

The line check at the gig should be basically vocals to get the right volume and make sure you're not getting feedback on the stage area. Each musician should then do a line check to make sure they're getting signal at an appropriate level. 

Then fine tune during the first song. 

Remember that someone sitting in the guitarists 'amp set to kill' zone will always think the guitar is too loud, while the guitarist standing next to the amp with his speaker blasting past his kneecaps is always going to think he's too quiet.

2 hours ago, Phil Starr said:

Just as phones have trained us all to be better photographers

I disagree with this. Phones have enabled more people to take more pictures. You still need a good eye to take a good photo. Same with mixing desks. More people have more power and more control at their fingertips if they still have cloth ears, the results will be even worse than simple treble and bass control.

See the recent Sound Engineering Guitarist thread. 

The real questions should be:

"Are you getting gigs for weddings where the couple are saying 'We saw you at X's wedding'?". 

"Are people dancing to your music and having a good time?" Usually after the buffet, but extra points for people staying on the dance floor after the first dance..

If you are, then don't worry about it. We are our own worst critics. 

21 minutes ago, Burns-bass said:

Plagiarism is, or should be, a moral outrage. 

Simply copying and regurgitating wholesale and passing off as your own, yes.

Part of what 'intelligence' is, is the ability to learn by copying. At the moment, that's the only element of 'inteligence' in Artificial Intelligence. 

Why don't email providers just do the checks and then provide a verify service to third parties? Then anything you log into with your email is already checked for you. 

5 minutes ago, fretmeister said:

Ofcom will have the power to shut down any site that just annoys them

But are extremely unlikely to. This will be retrospective, if someone comes to harm, there will be an investigation and the owner will have to show they assessed the risk, mitigated it.

Any punishments will be proportionate. They're not going to take someone's house and throw them in jail for running a small local forum. 

11 minutes ago, diskwave said:

 

Hamster weekly shut down??  and others?  This is madness. How on earth are all these inoccuous little websites dangerous?  I think there's going to be a groundswell of objection to all this and each site will be judged on whether or not it is dangerous to young people or not. Basschat as an eg ....dangerous? I think not.

 

It's the owners not really understanding the implications.

It's the old 'Health and Safety gone mad' syndrome, where people are just stopped from doing things by people who catastrophise everything. 

I can't see anyone joining BassChat to pick up women or groom children.

It's is most probably a scam. 

I've been in bands for 45 years and just when you reach an age when you think finally everyone is acting as grownups.

Something happens to remind you musicians are mainly big kids. 

Could be a number of factors. It's rarely just one factor.

Daltry's ears are probably screwed and even with in ears he's struggling.

Maybe Daltry has had enough now and this will be a good excuse not to play gigs for a long while. 

Regards Pino, wasn't it Townsend's choice to find someone who wasn't a lead bassplayer in the band so that he could step up from being rhythm guitarist?