Bobo_08

3 hours ago, stewblack said:

Yeah, but  the HB strings are, in my oh so humble opinion, absolutely fine anyway

They are ok, a bit rougher to than branded strings, I actually changed them for HB home branded 45's which were a modest improvement.

2 hours ago, stewblack said:

And I still read folk saying the first thing they did was rip off the crap strings 🤣😂🤣😂

Lol, daft! However having said that the strings on my PB20 were definitely not D'Addarios, I just checked and this is still the case. 

The other thing that surprises me at the price point, is that the decent set of strings they come with, which at this price represents a fair percentage of the overall price!

I've only played this bass through my little vox headphone amp put it's sounds promising and the tone/volume controls work better than I though they would if I'm honest. 

14 hours ago, stewblack said:

My back problems come from cabs not basses

You're supposed to get inside the taxi cab, not pick it up and carry it on your back 😝... 🚕🚖

4 hours ago, Bobo_08 said:

HB PB20 4.35kg

HB JB62 4.22kg

I was actually surprised how close these two basses weighed because my perception was that the PB20 was considerably heavier, I was wrong. 

As a comparison my Yamaha TRBX304 is Mahogany and weighs in at 3.9kg. 

I think a decent quality strap is paramount.. I remember now that I practised for 2hours with that PB20 with just a seatbelt nylon strap... Zero padding... It wasn't a pleasant experience. Lol.

3 hours ago, tegs07 said:

I would guess that they do it by a combination of rock bottom Chinese labour prices and the distribution capacity and relative low cost web based sales of Thoman’s online platforms.

 

The couple I have tried have been very good for the price but a little on the heavy side.

Yes a combination of all these things is what helps keep the cost down, they have zero marketing costs too and basically no middle men to take a cut which helps.

Interesting Dingwall produce guitars in china but also maintains Premium price of circa £1500.

HB PB20 4.35kg

HB JB62 4.22kg

1 hour ago, Bobo_08 said:

I only have one HB PB20, and it's is pretty heavy going if I'm honest. The JB 62 I just got is deffo lighter. 

 

I'm considering getting another jazz bass bass from HB to put th3 neck on my PB20, once I've checked the neck pockets are compatible. Now only if they started to do their roasted necks in kit form..!

HB PB20 4.35kg

HB JB62 4.22kg

These are right on the limit I'm willing to accept, I'm not old or infirm but neither do I wish to develop any kind of shoulder or back injury. 

By comparison my Yamaha ,TRBX304 made from mahogany is 3.9kg. obviously more expensive by about x 2.5 compared to Harley Bentons. 

Frankly in the overall scheme I would be willing to pay a little extra for a HB bass that was say 300g

 lighter. 

5 hours ago, stewblack said:

I have HB P basses which are incredibly well priced and they're not remotely heavy.

I only have one HB PB20, and it's is pretty heavy going if I'm honest. The JB 62 I just got is deffo lighter. 

I'm considering getting another jazz bass bass from HB to put th3 neck on my PB20, once I've checked the neck pockets are compatible. Now only if they started to do their roasted necks in kit form..!

I also just spotted this today, almost pulled the trigger as soon as I saw it! I still might! The only thing I am wondering about is the weight as the Alder body offerings from HB are often a  it on the heavy side. 

22 hours ago, neil___lien said:

But are you guys talking specifically about the JB-62CC? The body is made of poplar.. isn't that supposed to be lighter?

It is, I just got mine.. will advise on weight when I find those pesky luggage scales. 

On 30/03/2023 at 18:28, bassybill said:

I have a couple of Harley Benton Jazz basses and the quality is just out of this world for the money. The only issue I have with them - and it’s a real shame as they are in every other way excellent - is that they are both back breakingly heavy. 

I've just received my JB 62 this afternoon and I really like it, it's a very reasonable weight. I will report back exactly how heavy it is once I've found the luggage scales.

I have a PB20 which is really quite heavy and not very comfortable during 2 to 3hr practice session

1 hour ago, stewblack said:

I have made a firm decision. Based on common sense rather than any moral ground.

I live in an overcrowded, damp, cold room. I took a bass out the other day having not used it for a while. The pots crackled, there was rust on the pick ups, the strings were dead.

I simply cannot in all conscience bring another instrument into this room. Apart from anything else I'm falling over the ones I already have!

A dehumidifier and then a new bass then mate! How are you getting on with that Matt Black PB20?

On 15/02/2023 at 15:13, stewblack said:

No surprise to see me in this thread. However.....I may surprise you by saying I haven't bought one of these.

 

 

 

 

Yet.

.... Has this changed yet? ☺️

I have just pulled the trigger on a shell pink one this evening. 😁

PM'd

Oh my days, that is a very nice instrument! Very tempting.. 😚 and I don't have a 5 string yet and I have a fretless I hardly use... 🤔

Does this bass suffer from neck dive?

5 minutes ago, nbaptista said:

Thank you, it makes sense.Yes, for now the most important is to practice and learn, The Fender is fine for that, I have time in a year or two to buy another bass amp.I liked the Orange, but for now I just want to play and have fun.I have all the information I nedeed, after reading all of your posts! Thank you to all!

You're welcome mate! 👍

53 minutes ago, nbaptista said:

Yes, I am starting out with bass!

Welcome to basschat where you a free to ask away. There's no such thing as a silly question when your starting out. 

So you currently have a fender rumble 100, which I believe is absolutely fine for home practice and even jamming with friends. As others have noted if you wish to gig or play with a drummer Ina full band context then I would guess you need to look at something at least 300W maybe even 500W as a minimum. Your probably better looking at seperate heads and cabs at these powers though. 

Is a certain brand of amps better for certain genre's... Perhaps, I mean orange are generally more associated with heavier sounding music. But if your going to start using distortion and other effects, perhaps the amp you choose doesn't matter so much... At least for now. 

If I was you I wouldn't get too worried about this tone or that, just concentrate on practising and having fun. As soon as you start obsessing about tone, then you get sucked into a black hole of GAS (Gear Acquisition Syndrome), trying this amp, this cab, this or that pedal. 

I'm going to go out on limb here ( I might risk getting shot down in flames) but in a live band context the audience won't give a fig about your tone or the price or brand of your amp.. they are hearing/feeling the groove and then with drums and heavy guitar on top they won't be able to discern between a Harley Benton head/cab or a Vander Klay head/cab.

That's my advice for what it's worth

2 hours ago, Dan Dare said:

 

It would have helped had you stated at the outset that you play guitar, not bass. This is a bass forum and we advise people on bass matters (many of us play guitar, too, but that isn't the point). You are asking in the wrong place. Seek guidance on guitar forums or go to a decent shop and take their advice. There's little point in asking repeated questions on here, especially as you don't give us any useful information about your needs (see Happy Jack's post above). 

Sounds to me that he is a guitarist experimenting or starting out with bass seeking our opinions on what amps are good in what context, also I have the impression he is not a native English speaker, so it's not always easy to articulate so well in a second or third language. 

Im very sorry for your loss Christina. I didn't know your son Peter but I am sure we  would have enjoyed a good chat about music and bass gear and gadgets, perhaps he went by a specific name on this forum?  On another note, I used to have a friend that lived in Hoo some years back. 

Best regards

5 hours ago, Waddycall said:

What surprised you? 

That the Mark bass was 300W and still seems to struggle a bit

1 hour ago, Waddycall said:

None of these sound loud enough to me and they’re all way over 30W-

https://youtu.be/8elFSMDEvy80

I was surprised to be honest.. especially the markbass!