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If I'm payingvbig bucks to see a big band like KISS, I want to hear real singing even if it's bad. KISS was probably a bad example because I don't think their fans care one way or the other. Motley Crew openly admits to using multiple layers of pre-recorded guitar tracks. Blue

How do you feel about big bands like KISS lip syncing and useing multiple backing tracks live? Take a position and support it. Blue

I still say the only true amp demo is live with your band in the venues you play. Not a YouTube clip in an ideal environment. Blue

It's good that you went out and played in front of people. That's the story here. Blue

I'm retired or what you guys call a pensioner? I have way too much free time.☺️ Blue

Very cool, then I have at least 10 gigging years left. I started gigging at age 12. Blue

Great story, unfortunately at 65, my band is probably my swan song to any type of gigging. My plan is to take up fishing when I finally "age out" of the gigging scene. Blue

Nice commentary Pete. Out BL and front person is a 34 year old female lead guitarist. No heels or short dresses. Blue jeans , t-shirts and barefoot is her thing. The rest of us, I'm 65 our other guitarist, harp and vocalist also 65 and our drummer is 50. Knowing your audience is key. We do great and have so much fun with a 60 plus crowd. Thing is we can't pick and choose our gigs, we have to take what's out there and who will pay our fee in order to keep working. But as you can imagine when were playing Robin Trower, early Fleetwood Mac, Savoy Brown, Jeff Beck Group at loud volume the 20 somethings in my part of the Midwest are lost and have no reference point to what we're doing. To be honest they seem to struggle with the concept of people playing electric guitars. I always tell them to tell their grandparents about us. I'm not kidding. Blue

As bass players when do we have to evaluate our age and where our place is in the gigging world. I'd say it depends on who we are, location, abilities. Obviously we're not going to audition for a local band in their 20s. What do we do when we start to " age out"? Is this issue worth a thread? Blue

Remember , unlike my generation, I'm 65, no longer is every kid in the neighborhood buying a guitar and starting a band. There aren't that many guys in their 20s & 30s interested in bands or gigging. But there's a ton of us older guys not willing to give up our rock & roll spot light quite yet I'm not Blue

I can't say I've ever seen a demo clip where volume was demoed. Blue

Guys isn't the best demo the one that can simulate how, when and where your going to using the amp? Blue

That's too bad, gigging has always been fantastic for me and my band members are great people, not the greatest musicians but great people to work with. The gigging experience is different for all of us. Blue

I think the only way you can demo an amp is in the types of venues you play up against guitars, keys and drums. What will your sound be coming through the PA as oposed to what you hear from your speaker on stage or your monitor. All things I consider. Demos are done in an ideal environment, a little different from playing live with a band with a lot of variables. My sound can be great one night and crap the next with no setting changed. I haven't been following new amps much. Are there bass connos that can really address high volume? Blue

I really hope the OP finds what he's looking for. It's not going to be easy. I could easily be in the same position in the not to distant future. It's been said many times on BC, opportunities with established working bands are never advertised publically. Blue

Spinal Tap, yes one of the best in my book too. Blue

I'm 65, I don't have time for iffy bands.For most of us deep into our 60s don't have time for iffy anything. Blue

That's a good idea, go out and see the established bands that are out there working 2 nights every week. I stalked my band for a while then I introduced myself and found out they were looking for a bass player. I've been working pretty much solid for the last 8 years. Sorry guys, I'm not sure the going to jams or trying to start your own band will be met with much success. Blue

Very few have the time, ability, patience, money or other resources to start their own band Blue

In my neck of the woods jams are ok, but not as a resource for finding work with an established working band that's making money. Blue

I liked the movie. I think it's hard to make a major movie about a rock band. Are the stories interesting enough for a movie considering most who go see it are not musicians. I'll make my " old guy" comment now. Best rock movie ever, " A Hard Days Night" The Beatles. Blue

Agreed I thought the drummer and some of the early FM wigs were pretty bad. Blue

It sounds great. But I'm a rock & roll dance hall bar club guy. 4 peices bass, guitars, drums and vocals. Blue

We have a place called Martin's. It's a neighborhood bar restaurant that books good bands on Wednesday nights. Place is small always packed. We've been asked to play there many times. We always diplomatically declined. They don't pay the bands they only offer a meal. Blue

I'm providing a service at these types of events. I'm not a guest. I'm no different than those serving or cleaning up. I never eat at gigs. I eat earlier in the day at home. Blue