41Hz

6 minutes ago, dave_bass5 said:

No, I meant you can edit/tweak all the settings in the different blocks using just the foot switches while still playing. Probably not relevant in your case though. I plan on doing it tonight to get the Blend set right in the BDDI. Easier to do while actually playing rather than bending down to do it. I think i this is one of the coolest features on the FX. 

Yeah, using pedal edit mode - that’s what I was doing previously. It was 3 clicks taking around 2-3 seconds to change the pitch.

3 hours ago, dave_bass5 said:

 I have Vermin and my standard BDDI set to footswitch 4, so when I turn Vermin off the BDDI comes on. love this feature. Also got a noise gate at the end of this patch, for obvious reasons. 

That sounds really useful - I didn’t think that was possible, I know you can have 2 effects turned on with one footswitch, but didn’t know you could have them so they switch in opposition, how do you do that?

2 minutes ago, dave_bass5 said:

I'm pretty much like you, at the moment I'm using pitch shifting for the first time and really enjoying it. You can actually adjust the pitch etc using just your feet rather than having to bend down, but ive not tried that yet. 

Yes, I started doing that at first, but then realised by having 4 identical patches/pedal boards with different tunings I would save a footswitch as I don’t need to have the pitch shift assigned to a footswitch

4 hours ago, Al Krow said:

 

I guess other folks may go for one patch per song? Be interested in how you've got yours arranged.

But with 32 banks x 4 patches available there shouldn't be any practical limitation on the variations possible!

I’m still pretty new to the HXFX and effects in general, but I use it in pedal mode. I created a single board with comp, HPF, various drives etc. I then saved it into the other 3 parches and had a hidden always on pitch shift for each patch with different tuning, so I have a standard, Eb, D and C tuned board. I’m not massively into effects and could probably live without the comp/LPF/Drives, however I’ve been sucked in by the pitch shifter which means it has kind of become essential for me now.

1 hour ago, dave_bass5 said:

I was thinking of getting the pedal, but still need to find a need for it first lol. 

To be honest, I could probably do without it and have a footswitch for a volume boost, but it’s so cheap I thought I’d get one.

4 hours ago, Al Krow said:

Just spotted that if I rejig my little gigging board there's going to be space for an an expression pedal which my Boss SY-1 could certainly make use of, but just wondering if LT owners are making much use of the on board expression pedal and same question to HX Effects and Stomp owners if you've added an expression pedal to your set ups?

Yes, I got an m-audio exp, a bargain at £14 and works well with the hx effects. Mainly use it for adjusting the volume - do this on the compressor block so I don’t need a separate volume block 

Out of interest are you putting the HPF at the start or end of the chain in the helix?

1 minute ago, dmccombe7 said:

I'm quite surprised how well the flats work on my Sandberg within a 70's Glam Rock covers band. So much so that my next set for my Jazz will be LaBella low tension flats as well. Virtually no fret rattles and so easy to glide your fingers along the strings without getting blisters and aches.

Maybe i just need to harden up  but i'm really liking the tone i'm getting from them. Hopefully its not the novelty factor of flats tho. 

Dave

I always think rounds sound better than flats when I’m playing at home at low volume, flats sound a bit compressed and “flat”, however the magic seems to happen when you play in a band context and they just sound really good, even with the rockier stuff

19 minutes ago, dmccombe7 said:

Had a 6hr rehearsal on Sun using flats for the first time in about 30+ years. Sandberg VM4 and i found they made me play a bit lighter with both hands for some odd reason and therefore the sore finger issue never made an appearance.

Maybe i've just been playing too aggressively with both hands.

Dave 

I switched to my jazz with flats and my sore finger was pretty much gone by Sunday morning. Stupidly got my pbass with rounds out and my finger started hurting within 10 minutes!

4 minutes ago, Woodinblack said:

a shelf is like a treble or bass control, and is flat like a shelf after a certain point. a cut is a continuous slope after a certain point.

So taking a low filter  at 200 Hz for instance

12dB / Octave low cut:  0db @ 200Hz, -12dB @ 100hz, -24dB @ 50hz, -36db @ 25Hz etc.

12dB low shelf: 0dB @ 200Hz, -12dB @ 100Hz, -12dB @ 50, -12dB @ 25Hz etc.

Interesting point. How steep are roll offs on the Helix? With an analogue HPF if you set at 41Hz you’d probably still be attenuating the signal a bit at 50Hz. 

1 minute ago, dave_bass5 said:

Dont expect too much. That is a very extreme demo.

I was using a different bass last week and a few times the bottom E really seemed to over power the speaker and come out pretty weak and flabby, wondering if this would help.

10 minutes ago, Al Krow said:

An HPF does two key things:

i)  tightens up the low end. General view seems to be that anything below around 50Hz adds more to boominess than to a meaty low end, and that the focus should be on the first harmonics and above (for low B that is 62Hz+, for the low E string that's 82Hz+); although IMO there's an argument for leaving in the fundamental frequencies of the low B string (31Hz) and your very own low E string (41Hz) avatar!

ii) used to entirely cut the subsonic crud (<20 Hz) so that your speakers are not wasting energy on very low frequency but high energy waves that no one can actually hear; and can work more efficiently to deliver the frequencies you can hear.

i) impacts the bass sound; ii) should not.

Here's the SFX Thumpinator in action, which is set to cut everything below 28Hz i.e. delivering ii) and showing how much less cab displacement there is with an HPF engaged. Virtually zero difference in tone.

 

Wow, that is a pretty dramatic difference! Definitely going to try playing with this at the next rehearsal

26 minutes ago, dave_bass5 said:

Gents, a question about HPF and the Helix stuff. I noticed there are two (not including the Global one) EQ effects that seem to do this. Does anyone have a preference or know of a reason to use one over the other? Just looking to tame a stage so not bothered about the LPF end.

Are you talking about the low/high cut and low/high shelf - I don’t know what the difference is. Do line 6 publish a detailed explanation for each effect?

I’ve never thought to use a HPF does it make a noticeable difference? I guess you only notice at band volumes. I will try them at rehearsal on Friday.

On 12/11/2019 at 11:45, dave_bass5 said:

Well i have the BDDI sim, plus i dont need or want to emulate the SH1. Having recently brought a new amp i cant see the point of ruining an Amp sim as well, other than as an EQ.

As Jack says, there is more then enough EQ options and Pre amps in the FX to cover anything ill need, and as my fav tone is the BDDI im covered for now. I do fancy giving the Ampeg Screamer a go tonight though.

Out of interest, what settings do you use for the BDDI, always interested to try other peoples settings!

3 hours ago, miles'tone said:

Why not fit out your P bass with Hipshot Ultralites, an aluminium neck plate and aluminium knobs? 

I did this to an already light P bass and got it down to well under 8lbs. No change in tone or neck dive. 

Wish I'd kept it actually! 

I hadn’t considered that, I don’t suppose how much you shaved off with this mods?

3 hours ago, dave_bass5 said:

Got my FX today. Very pleased with it. Quite program (did my training on the Stomp), i managed to transfer all my patches over to it from the Stomp manually, no software used. I love how  all the effects parameters can be tweaked using just foot switches, so very handy for making adjustments on the fly while still playing.  Love the fact that i can see everything at one time. 

Its a bit heavier than I expected. Not a deal breaker at all, it feels very sturdy. There are a few niggles as far as finding when things are goes, i know what I want but cant find a few of them easily, as they are in different places compared to the Stomp. 

Cant believe this box is cheaper than the Stomp (I realise it's missing stuff, but nothin gill ever miss). I'm not getting rid of the Stomp though, at least not yet. The FX fits in my gig bag with my amp and leads, so can live there when I'm not rehearsing or gigs, and the Stomp will stay in the bedroom for headphone practice. 

These are £1.02 from CPC, they will let you use headphones with the HXFX, in fact you could get two and use the other for line in to play along with audio.

Glad you like the HXFX, I was wondering if I was missing something not having the stomp, but the HXFX is so easy to use playing live, I think I’d struggle with the stomp.

That looks lovely, are they chambered as standard, or did you get it modified?

Any suggestions, my shoulder has been giving me a bit of grief recently.

My pbass is about 8.8lbs and the jazz 8.5lbs, so not exactly heavy. I used to have an Ibanez SR1400 which was a lovely bass and nice and light but found the neck a bit narrow, also the D and G string were a bit thin sounding and I wondered if this was down to it being so light.

so ideally something in the 7-7.5lb range, but with a pbass size neck that doesn’t sacrifice tone for weight. Any ideas?

Thanks, yeah, it’s my index finger too. Will try some voltarol 

I got a shure MV88 recently and the sound quality is very good. There is an audio and video app where you can control the Mic gain, stereo separation, add compression etc. It has onboard DACs so it isn’t relying on anything on the phone. Somebody else in the band has a hand held zoom recorder and reckons the MV88 sounds better. 

9 minutes ago, dave_bass5 said:

My FX is arriving Monday and i have a rehearsal on Tuesday. Im confident i can manually program the FX with copies of what i have in the Stomp, but wondering if its worth trying to load the Stomp patches in to the FX via the Editor? Its really only two patches and neither have any Amp or Cab sims.

Any thought?

You could try doing this way with 2x hxedit windows....

On 04/11/2019 at 17:08, 41Hz said:

Wondered if this is possible......

I would like to assign a single footswitch for pitch shift, I need to drop either a semi tone or a whole tone (Eb or D) for some songs. Ideally I’d like to cycle through 3 options on a single switch, ie OFF, -1, -2, OFF etc.

I can do it with two switches, either two separate pitch shift blocks on separate switches with the interval set to -1 and -2, or a single pitch shift on one then assign a different foot switch to toggle the interval with max/min values of -1,-2.

Is this possible using just one switch? Thought I’d read you can toggle multiple effects on a single switch, but so far I can’t see how.

 

I’ve found a fairly quick way to do this - press and hold the mode button to go into pedal edit mode. Tap pitch shift, it defaults to interval as the first parameter, then use up/down to change between -1/-2. Just timed myself and can change the pitch in 3 seconds with 3 taps. Probably quicker than me bending down and twiddling the knobs....and better for my knees/back!

My M Audio EX-P expression pedal came in the post today. At £14 it’s an absolute bargain.

I just found something really cool on the helix with the expression pedal - apologies if you already know this.....

On the B7K model I set the pedal to control the drive from 0-10, but I also set it on the level but reversed min/max to sweep from 10 to 6,  so as I increase the drive it simulataneously backs the level down a bit so it maintain a more even volume with distortion.

I thought that was pretty cool, you may already be doing that so apologies if this is old news.

Thanks, it’s eased off a little, just tried my jazz bass that has lower action and floppy TI flats and its bearable to play that.

2 minutes ago, Reggaebass said:

I had this a while ago, I thought it was a splinter as it was very tender to touch when I fretted a note , but no sign of anything , it went away on it’s own after about 4 weeks 🙂

4 weeks! I hope it doesn’t last that long, did you have to stop playing, mine is too sore to play