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walk the dinosaur- was(not was)

31 minutes ago, Misdee said:

The thing is, for the most part Glastonbury is a celebration of old people's music. Most of the bands on the bill(but not all, I hasten to add) are playing music that is not remotely new and is referential to music from previous generations. Despite all their efforts to be "relevant" and "representative", Glastonbury is primarily a celebration of Dad Rock and it's traditional and reassuring values.

 

Rock music belongs to old people. They invented it.

Some could argue that old dudes in Mali many generations ago sowed the seeds of rock music. It gestated in the USA under the guise of the blues, was combined with some European folk and C&W and was later re-invented in the UK in the mid to late 1960s before morphing further into different branches. It’s all just progression.

26 minutes ago, Misdee said:

I'm as old as I am and I'm not trying to hide it from anyone.

 

The point is that Glastonbury trades on it's history as a counterculture event despite the reality that it's now a bastion of the establishment. It's the Wimbledon of rock festivals.

alright now - free

she’s not there - the zombies 

Its been mentioned already but Gallops slot in The Cure. One of a small number of bands with a multi decade career, have played some huge gigs and festivals, have never been pawns of record labels or fickle fans and in their 60’s are still doing what they love doing.

7 minutes ago, spongebob said:

I think it's a shame how many of the festivals have lost their 'alternative' side.

 

Glastonbury looks to me to be a glorified pop festival, bit like the V festivals. 

 

Looking at line-ups of festivals through the 70s and 80s, and when I came up, the 90s, they certainly weren't aimed at the pop crowd....the pop world was a separate entity. 

 

My main gripe of many of the acts....pop, rock, folk, whatever, old and new, was that there was such a large factor of dullness. Lacking in edge. I wanted someone to jump out the screen at me!

 

Maybe Nicky Wire had it right...at least he caused a reaction (and a ban at the time as well?) Agree with him or not, but can you imagine anyone daring to say such today? He'd probably earn a corporate cancelling! 

It has just grown into a far larger, far more organised event that appeals to a very large demographic. So far I have watched Idles, Khruangbin, Roisin Murphy, Bonobo, St.Vincent,Big Thief, Billie Eillish and a bit of Leon Bridges.. something for everyone there.

Its never going to be the same as the old days. I can remember wandering down to the local HMV about a week after the tickets were released, no one queuing and paid in cash. It’s just a very different festival. Still great that people are enjoying it and being exposed to music they may never otherwise listen to.

dust my broom - elmore james 

7 hours ago, Geek99 said:

I used it, it was a total PoS for exactly the reasons you state 

it swallowed grain filler like porn stars swallow … ohh.. umm… cream cakes 

Yep. I had a Stingray body made for me a while back and wanted it to be light. Basswood was out as I wanted a grain. I found a youtube video of someone trying to use the slurry method on Paulownia and he was having a total ‘mare. It is a very porous wood. I went for Ash in the end.

there’s a ghost in my house - the fall 

1 minute ago, Barking Spiders said:

'Just little pop songs' ? What's wrong with pop anyway? 

 

As for Primal Scream, it it wasn't for Andrew Weatherall's production Screamadelica would've been very run of the mill. I like the JAMC but back in the 80s they were infamous for their short gigs and rather surly stage demeanour, often with their backs to the crowd, probably to avoid being gobbed in the  face. I have their albums but wouldn't ever bother seeing them live.

Early JAMC gigs were chaotic and pretty decent. I last saw them at Brixton Academy and they seemed a bit bored an weary of the whole thing by then. I saw some of the Glastonbury set and they seemed underwhelming and dull. Other than Psychocandy  which is still great the BRMC are probably the band the JAMC should have morphed into.

fire and rain - james taylor 

5 hours ago, Sr_1200 said:

Right my bass is sold! I’m interested in this. I’ll private message you.

Congratulations if you buy this. It’s one of the biggest bargains on here …

never understand - the jesus and mary chain 

7 minutes ago, pbasspecial said:

I think it was St Vincent that had the backings singers and she was the one who forgot to plug in her gold custom signature music man guitar. Thought it was quite funny as she panicking, had a pop at a techy and the realised it was her fault! D’oh!

Yep that’s what I was thinking of when I asked. I liked most of St Vincent set as well.

7 minutes ago, Cliff Edge said:

Yes. I’m sure she has talent to have got where she is so young. Not my bag either, and I would have probably switched off anyway. But I found the visuals incredibly annoying and added nothing to the performance. Except may be for some pre pubescent kids and dirty old men.  

Fair enough. Visually I thought she was more of a cross between Robert Smith and a Manga comic character. Bearing in mind she is not a dancer and has to occupy a huge stage I thought  it a clever bit of theatre but we all have different opinions.

4 minutes ago, Cliff Edge said:

If she dropped the rather silly and not very attractive backing singers and just concentrated on singing instead of trying to be sexy I might have paid more attention. But I switched her off when she finally realised she’d forgotten to plug her guitar in. 
All that bumping and grinding on stage is getting rather tiresome and outdated. If you want to watch dancing watch Strictly. 

Just to confirm you are taking about Billie Eillish? I must have been watching someone else. Saw the first half of her set and although not my bag thought she was remarkable. Is that her brother with her alongside the drummer? If so hugely talented holding it all together and playing some pretty neat licks at the same time.

pulse - the psychedelic furs

sweet baby james - james taylor 

32 minutes ago, Burns-bass said:

There may be a few collectors who have vintage instruments as an investment but for the main part it’s normal people which are seduced by it. Fender for their part indulge it by producing Roadworn instruments. 
 

Strikes me as indicative of a society in decline. It’s a belief that somehow things were better in the old days, and we won’t get it back. Despite all evidence to the contrary that manufacturing techniques improve over time.

 

 

Im not sure I really agree. There are a number of serious collectors who are really discerning in what they buy and spend serious money. There is also a lot of of amateur enthusiasts that like the mojo and aesthetic of older instruments but can’t afford the top end stuff. As these things become more scarce but still attract buyers then they will increase in value. Not sure if it’s indicative of a society in decline. Nostalgia is just another quirk of the human condition.

Gold - Martin Harley 

Finally watched Khruangbin and now St Vincent. Some nice funky bass going on there.

4 minutes ago, Supernaut said:

@SteveXFR - go to Download or Bloodstock if you want heavier bands. Moaning about how Glasto doesn't cater to your neck beard doom needs is laughable. 

To be fair i get his drift. As a 50 plus Dad I should be outraged at the long haired hooligans and their decadent ways like all previous Dads since the days of Mozart. I feel cheated.

3 minutes ago, stingrayPete1977 said:

Emily Eavis knows that the festival needs to keep moving, middle aged men into heavy rock are a dying breed and not what 20 something girls want to spend their time with. 

This. Plus take a look back through the archives the line up was never that great. Some real gems - the rest a bit meh. From my memories of festival days Reading generally had a better lineup but Glastonbury was still always the better festival in terms of having a great time.

7 hours ago, Doctor J said:

The prices being paid for Fender's lowest ebb will never stop amazing me.

I would think a plenty of these instruments won’t even get played. Just like old wines rarely get drunk. They have become another way of protecting cash value against inflation.