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    Glastonbury 2022

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    8 minutes ago, Muzz said:

    Was chatting with SWMBO about it (as we do every year); she went in 87 (I never did; it was Donington or nowt for me), when it was £21 to get in, and her and her friends parked their van just up the hill from the Pyramid Stage. She's always fancied going back, but I've pointed out that it'd be a very, very different experience, and not just because she wouldn't be 22 and stoned for the entire weekend...

    Yea the second time I went I had a stall in one of the smaller fields. I can’t remember what it cost but it wasn’t particularly expensive. Most of the other vendors around me were small scale selling hippie tat. Fast forward to the mid 90’s and I thought of doing it again and even the less desirable pitches were really expensive and half the high street seemed to be setting up shop. Im sure it’s still an amazing experience but very different to the memories I have.

    Glastonbury 2022

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    7 minutes ago, MrSpace said:

    Another recommendation from me for Idles, worth a watch on iPlayer if you like it loud and edgey. I missed Crowded House, I'll try and watch on iPlayer later. Looking forward to McCartney. 

    Idles are one of the handful of bands around at the moment that if I were in my 20’s would be seeing live  whenever possible. I haven’t seen any coverage of Khruangbin yet but they would also be on my must see list. In the years I went to Glastonbury the official numbers were less than 70000 (with gatecrashers probably more like 100000) and tickets were less than £40. I can’t see me going these days unless I win some sort of competition that includes helicopter travel and accommodation in an airstream with complimentary chief and sommelier!

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    Glastonbury Festival

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    7 minutes ago, SteveXFR said:

     

    I've been to quite a few Glastonbury festivals and what they show on TV is always the extremes. I've been there wet years and seen the TV crews filming the very worst spot on site which is nothing like the majority of the site. 

    There's always shade somewhere when it's sunny and an endless supply of free water. 

    The crowds can be pretty extreme at the pyramid stage but I've always found better music and much more bearable crowds at the smaller stages.

    It's not for everyone but don't believe what you see on TV and in the papers, journalists like to sensationalise a bit.

    Yeah the weather in the UK is generally bad enough to complain about but very very rarely bad enough to do any actual harm.

    Ive been at Glastonbury in a heat wave and in heavy rain. It was still fun.

    Should Wal scale up their operation?

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    23 minutes ago, joe_geezer said:

    So your glad you'll never be able to afford a Wal... lovely stuff 

    And if you go back and checkout the Status prices on my previous post you can see that Status manage to create affordable instruments as do all other UK bass companies with Wal being the exception because their basses are priced based on the current perceived market value not on the actual value.

    I can’t afford an Aston Martin either but still glad they are made. I get your point but Wal have a business model that works for them and they position themselves in the bespoke, boutique top end market. Im pretty sure the electrics, pickups etc are all handmade. That is rare and labour intensive.

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    Should Wal scale up their operation?

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    7 minutes ago, LukeFRC said:

    Which would suggest that their new prices are justified and about right.

    It's capitalism, price is set by desirability/market/supply. If it's too high it won't sell, if it's too low they won't make as much as they should be. 
    The other thing about capitalism is if you don't want to buy something, no one forces you too.
    If Jaydee were more popular and in demand they would cost more and have a longer wait time. 

    This. They are also made in the UK and in a very desirable, leafy commuter town in the UK. Labour cost and premises will be ludicrous.

    I just returned from an expensive repair bill on my vehicle. Total cost of parts £20. But 5 hours labour and tax made the repair huge. It’s why we dispose of so much stuff in advanced capitalist countries. It’s just cheaper to import from the far east.

    I’m just glad companies like Wal still exist in this era of cheap imports.

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    Should Wal scale up their operation?

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    8 hours ago, joe_geezer said:

    Price increases since 2010 for a Wal bass:

     

    2010: Prices from £3200. (https://web.archive.org/web/20100206152353/http://www.walbasses.co.uk/Ordering and Pricing)

    2012: Prices from £3500. (https://web.archive.org/web/20100206152353/http://www.walbasses.co.uk/Ordering and Pricing)

    2013: Prices from £3650. (https://web.archive.org/web/20130602181010/http://www.walbasses.co.uk/Ordering and Pricing)

    2014 : Prices from £3850. (https://web.archive.org/web/20140605222820/http://www.walbasses.co.uk/Ordering and Pricing)

    2015: Wal 4-string Mk1 - £4050 (https://web.archive.org/web/20150216000620/http://www.walbasses.co.uk/Ordering and Pricing)

    2016: Wal 4-string Mk1 - £4450 (https://web.archive.org/web/20160128234324/http://www.walbasses.co.uk/Ordering and Pricing)

    2017: Wal 4-string Mk1 - £5300 (https://web.archive.org/web/20170427020827/http://www.walbasses.co.uk:80/Ordering and Pricing)

    price remains the same until:

    2019: Mk1 4-string – from £6050 (https://web.archive.org/web/20200810215913/https://walbasses.co.uk/order-and-contact/)

    2020: Price is not disclosed from this point onwards

    2022 - If the we take the years from 2017-19 and the price increase of £750 then we can estimate that at least this is added again, possibly even more in 2022 making £6800 - but realistically we are probably looking at £7000+

     

    And compare them to Status basses

     

    Status bass:

    2010: £1975  S2-Classic 4-string through-neck (https://web.archive.org/web/20090824011929/http://www.status-graphite.com/status/pricelist/Status_Bass_09_INC-VAT.pdf)

    2022:  £3198.00 S2-Classic 4-string through-neck (http://www.status-graphite.com/status/pricelist/Status_Bass_Pricelist.pdf)

     

    I could go and bring up ebay sales from 2010-2022 of used Wal basses and they would probably match the prices of new Wals as shown above...  

    The good news is at the current inflationary trajectory a pint of beer will also cost about a grand :)

     

    Wals are really expensive but if you really want one there isn’t really any option. As they are desirable with limited production runs second hand Wals are also disproportionately expensive so they will retain their value.

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