tegs07

Very ethical of you. Personally I look at buying and selling things very dispassionately. Value is relative. When there are lots of buyers for a scarce object it’s value goes up and the reverse is also true. I wanted a Stingray for years but there were few for sale and many people that wanted one. I bid what I could afford and constantly lost out on bids. Was the seller unethical? They were getting as much as they could so not really. In the last 12 months there have been more 2EQ 4H’s on the market (colour, year, neck composition didn’t matter) so I continued to bid and got one at slightly less than my previous top bids. This was its going value! It was what someone was willing to pay at the time. The seller was happy. I was happy. In a few years I may sell it for more or less depending on circumstances (both personal and wider economic). There is no morality unless someone takes pleasure out of someone else’s misfortune.

Dolly Dagger - Hendrix

One Love - Bob Marley

Smoke 'Em - Fun loving criminals

The SUB and Sterling range are very good. I had a Ray34 and there is not a massive difference between that and a genuine Ray. Certainly not several hundred £’s worth of difference for the used range.

£900 would be a not too insulting offer though. Some you win, some you lose. A lot of Ray purists will insist on the original pickup and they are pretty much impossible to find.

Rock the Kasbah - the clash

Why not make an offer on this (not mine BTW) https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/124752627736 Gigged and not original pickup. Such things affect value but as a working bass one of a number of reasonable value £800 to £1000 Stingrays out there.

Israel - Siouxsie and the Banshees

Leben Heißt Leben - Laibach (life is life)

Take me - The Wedding Present

Get back - Beatles

I think TJ1 has started the thread more from investment than muso perspective.

No such thing to a musician. Definitely such a thing to a collector. Both my favourite bases are not worth much. One is a Bitsa I have devalued, one is a brand associated with producing dross.

Black planet- sisters of mercy

From a moral perspective you are absolutely correct but from a practical perspective when someone buys a depreciating asset the risk is transferred to them. It was worth Y it’s now worth X it may eventually be worth Z. Z could ultimately be higher or lower depending on personal or historical circumstance. That said it’s been a sorry couple of years for many many people and anyone impacted has my sympathy. I am replying from an economic rather than a humanist perspective. This is how economics works. I remember discussing the ethics of companies exploiting areas blighted by natural disasters. My perspective was it was evil. A friend who makes his living in finance pointed out it was necessary. The risk of trading in these areas was high as crime and population loss was rife. If the exploiting companies didn’t offset the risk they wouldn’t bother. If they didn’t bother supplies wouldn’t exist and the situation would never return to normal as competitors lured by profit wouldn’t move in. As enough companies moved in they would all have to adjust prices to be competitive and a normal market would eventually be established. Anyhow off topic. I would still maintain that now is a good time to invest in quality instruments. Normality will eventually come round.

Ta. Just played them on you tube. Not my bag. They appear to have a creature from a bad sci-fi film as a lead singer.

Not heard of party canon. Pop increasingly seems to be compromised of actual teenagers singing about being teenagers, hip hop has developed a social conscience so in some ways going full circle. I have no idea about new metal bands. I’m still stuck in the Motörhead/Sabbath dark ages. Edit: Forgot Jazz. Will add blues to this. Another poster on Basschat is in a blues band and described his audience as “grey hairs and no hairs” which is my experience of going to gigs of the genre. Real shame and needs new blood and energy. Thankfully metal seems to keep re-inventing itself and has so far escaped the demise.

White Wedding - Billy Idol

Close to you-cure

Pictures of you - the cure

Can’t any metal bands buck the trend and call themselves something like Sunday Lie In, Wholesome fun or Tea with Nanna instead?

God's Away On Business - Tom Waits

I’d never heard of him until I read Guy Pratt’s book- now I know his name he is everywhere and on everything!

Never saw dumpys but these guys always seemed to play the same circuit: Route 666 - The Hamsters