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[quote name='Finbar' post='141367' date='Feb 15 2008, 09:05 PM']So what would this actually do in an effects loop? It wouldn't just have no effect, surely?[/quote]


By the wildest stretch of my imagination, there's a passive tone network inside the box that changes the eq as you wind the control round whilst at the same time bringing down the volume, thus doing an interesting emulation of what a valve amp sounds like cranked up.


Even in dreamland I don't buy it. - I reckon it is something similar, but essentially just a passive (variable resistor) olume control in a metal box.

I am happy to be proved otherwise, but you'll never emulate a cranked valve power amp with a simple box in the effects loop. Oh.. unless it is connected with leads dipped in snake oil lol!

how ridiculous lol.. you could do better sticking an EQ pedal in your effects loop and just turning down the level on that. The idea of the Marshall powerbreak and the Palmer speaker emulator, for example is for the poweramp valves to be cranked so that they ooze all their lovely compression and drive. The latter tools allow you to wind the output down so the amp is still maxing, but the level is a lot lower at the speakers.

This tool appears to just be another volume control for dropping the level into the poweramp. I guess it could find a use if you are bizarrely using a non 'master volume' head, like an old marshall.. but they didnt have an effects loop anyway.. so again.. completely pointless with ref to their marketing spiel.

For the guy who said it enabled him to sell his powerbrake, obviously wasn't aware of what it was there for in the first place, or didnt need it.

I'm off to build a gadget that goes in a bass that actually improves the signal in the mains cable! *guh*

[quote name='umph' post='140745' date='Feb 15 2008, 12:34 AM']make someone buy my amp and i'll help you ;> do want this preamp[/quote]


Ladies and gentleman, Umph's Warwick Protube amp is for sale currently on page 3 of this fine for sale forum. I used to own a Warwick Quadruplet preamp amd it was just great. I can't make you buy it, but I'm sure it's jolly good, as is the Ampeg SVP you see before your eyes.

How's that? I'm pretty good eh!

[quote name='Smash' post='141048' date='Feb 15 2008, 01:54 PM'], can't believe you got rid of 2x 4x10 Tech cabs they must have been great.[/quote]


looking back on it.. me either!

I reckon the tech 4x12 mate ;O) I actually think that looking back on things, I should have kept my 2 Tech 4x10's. I think they had the edge on the tone.

You live and learn! _ I love the tweeter sound on them. If I had the cash spare, I think I'd go as far as buying one of the ND's again! But I have to sell stuff first!

Hmmm.. I really liked the Aggies. Would have been nice to have AB'd them with the Tech's at the time, but I had sold my Techs long before going shopping for new cabs.

Awww.. ok I'm in.. 7 string with EMG DC's straight into the front of my Mark Bass F1. Eq starts flat (all at 12 o'clock) then I tweak to the room for taste, but usually end up with something nearing 'Ampeg tone'. TC Electronics GForce sits in a parallel effects loops, to preserve the original bass tone. All goes straight out to an Epifani UL-610 cab.

My 'sound' could be considered 'hifi', as it has clear top and very deep bottom, a scooped middle and a little drive and compression from the effects unit for a bit of 'width' to the sound.

[quote name='Smash' post='140968' date='Feb 15 2008, 12:17 PM']Thanks for that Dood, I think I see you have the Epifani 6x10 that must sound like a monster!!!

My main worry was that being used to 12" Aguilars the 10" Marks would give less bottom end, I probably should drive down to Bass Merchants in my Norfolk Tractor to see what he has in store.[/quote]

Ah! You use the aggies then? I hadn't realised lol!! I am interested in getting some sort of 12"'s solution for writing sessions!

The Epi certainly has woofs of natural bottom end. It doesnt need a great deal of EQ to apply too much, which is a good thing. I think the Aggie 2x12's sounded very full as a pair of cabs. I think the bottom end maybe a little more punchy with tens. A large cab such as a 6x will offer up and deliver a good solid and surrounding bass end, that is for sure.

I'm gonna seel my SVP with a view to getting a small cab.. I really want the Epifani 1x12, as it has some really good reviews, but I have a short list of other cabs I am interested in as well..

[quote name='neilb' post='140959' date='Feb 15 2008, 12:08 PM']Is'nt "impinge" a lovely word.[/quote]


I must admit, I didn't check to make sure i'd spelt it right! - I think it describes perfectly what I was thinking. ;o)

I A/B'd one with my amp with some other cabs down at Bass Merchant. Yes it has a deep tone and is a beast, but there was something about the tone of the cab that I just couldn't fall for. I'd like to try another to see if I still feel the same, but I felt that 2 Aguilar GS212's had the bigger, deeper clearer tone. - And thats the reason I ended up with an Epifani lol lol!!

I can't really describe the tone, but I would lump it in the same catagory as the Ampeh 610e and the Messa Boogie range. They have a character of their own that you here with every abss that is plugged in. I don't mean this is necessarily a bad thing. A P bass with an Ampeg is a joy to behold.. but is kinda 'one sound'. I prefer the flexibility of having a cab that impinges less on the final sound.. if that makes sense.

ha ha sorry Tut.. lol... not a clue mate!

I am speechless... umm.. yeh... errrrr *shock*

[quote name='King Tut' post='140232' date='Feb 14 2008, 12:33 PM']Guys and Gals,

I have the chance of buying one of these locally. Anyone had any experience with them. I'll probably be asked to make an offer so some guide on their value would be welcome.

Cheers[/quote]


Marshall brought out a 200W and 400W IBS head in black, then later release an Anniversary set including 300W and 600W heads. They had chrome mirrored front panels and slightly different preamps. At the time I preferred the tone of the former 2 heads.

[quote name='Raggy' post='140472' date='Feb 14 2008, 05:08 PM']Hell yea.

P Bass through a marshall 2x15. Awesome [/quote]


YEP! Nearly as nice as a P bass through a drity SVT and 8x10.. something gawjuss about that sound!!

[quote name='alexclaber' post='140442' date='Feb 14 2008, 04:31 PM']It's an excellent concept, makes total sense for bass players as we use only a fraction of our amp's power most of the time even when we playing at full volume. Here it is:

[url="http://www.marshallamps.com/heritage/dbs/dbs_03.asp"]http://www.marshallamps.com/heritage/dbs/dbs_03.asp[/url]

So it seems that it really is Class G, with dual rail voltage, but only enough current capacity to provide continuous output when on the lower rail. Neat.

Alex[/quote]


oh man yeah! I remember the first tme I heard one. The guy was rehearsing with it.. and he turned it up... and up... and up, yet it didnt sound mushy or choked. We had to stop when the rig was drowning out the drummer lol lol.

[url="http://www.britishaudioservice.com/trace_operateinstru.shtml"]http://www.britishaudioservice.com/trace_operateinstru.shtml[/url] could be amongst these, I haven't looked yet.

Help this fine preamp move to a new home!

[quote name='alexclaber' post='140428' date='Feb 14 2008, 04:19 PM']Was that the one with the odd power supply - like Class G taken to extremes - so that although the rated power was 400W RMS it could deliver bursts of 4000W?

Alex[/quote]


Bloomin awesome! That was what! lol.. it was the 7xxx series. The head I think was the 7400. Black and gold front. Quite a heavy head, but much lighter than say that of an SVT!

I owned the 200W version. Used with a 2x15. One venue told me it was the best bass tone they'd ever had ;O) (P bass with phat pups on too)

[quote name='pete.young' post='138499' date='Feb 11 2008, 09:54 PM']I've never had a bass from Jon, but I've had other instruments hand-made to my specification. Consider this.

You've clearly put a lot of thought and money into getting Jon to build something that's unmistakeably yours. It's more than just something off the shelf, and will probably be something you'll play every day and cherish.

Why not wait a few days until you can enjoy the experience of picking it up in person, talking to Jon about it, maybe getting anything sorted that needs sorting. That'll give you a special day that you'll always remember, that will make the bass even more special and personal. You aren't going to have too many days like that. Make the most of it.[/quote]


A geat big +1. Couldn't have put it any better.

Thanks mate. I'm looking at a small cab to use for writing sesions / recording after I have sold my SVP, and this little chap caught my eye! Does yours have the level controls for both tweeter and mid too?

Thanks mate,

Dan

Hello mate! Is their any differences in the RX1260 and the current 1260 range Jam?

[quote name='MacDaddy' post='139836' date='Feb 13 2008, 08:27 PM']He put more powerful neo's in both - 10s on top 12s underneath - new handles on one, and altered them to run down to 4ohms, and did things to the amp that I can't remember (but have written down somewhere ).

My use of the word [i]made [/i]may have been misleading, perhaps I should have just stuck with [i]customised[/i] .[/quote]


ah no, it's cool mate! I was just interested to know what kinda custom work Mike could do, too!

I want one!!!!!!! Nellie is a li'l cutie. I bet she uses the same look when she has just been caught after gnawing table legs and destroying the leather sofa!!

Looks like normal tech gear mate! (niiiiiice) I don't quite follow, what did Mike make mate?

I use a very small 4 way extension attached to a 1u rack blank.It's that small, it actualy faces inwards into the rack, without too much room taken up, which is good. Same kinda thing as Dave's pic above.

I have also used the 3 way IEC splitter cables too... as I had a good resource for cables from installing in Server farms ;o)