Chiliwailer

10 hours ago, GuyR said:

A lot of vintage fender basses look cool but are a bit crap to play. They are still pretty much just as valuable as a very good player. I would expect those to be the ones you see repeatedly for sale.

 

Good point and can be the case; my personal experience with vintage basses and guitars is different on the whole.
 

I worked in vintage guitar shops in London over a span of many years. There were the odd vintage dogs, but not actually that many in ratio to those I played/sold. Like any bass, there will be some that do the rounds (like a SB Lull P Bass that was on here a few times that I took a chance on and quickly sold on!). 
 

The vast majority were just average I.e. no ‘better’ than any other good instrument, though perhaps with a feel or mystic that draws us in. Like Clive Brown once said to me ‘People wrongly think the old ones are better, like they are made with magic pixie dust!’
 

The others, and fewer amount, were really outstanding, perhaps being a combo of years of use, great wood, and tons of mojo.

Just from my personal experience I really don’t think it’s just the dogs that are doing the rounds, more that people work out a vintage bass isn’t as special as they thought, or that the bass is different to what they had imagined or expected when buying with their eyes or dreams. That said, I totally get why people love the vintage vibe nonetheless.  
 

My AVRI with a Fralin pup is just as good a player and tone as the very good and near mint ‘66 P Bass I sold when my wife needed a new car. That was my last, of many, vintage basses over the years- it just wasn’t worth the extra £s for me when we needed it back. I saw that bass passed round 3 times within 2 years but it was a great bass. 
 

If I was wealthy I’d like another early Fender bass purely for the fun of it, but that’d be my only reason given the more than good enough quality of my AVRI and CS Fender basses. 

YMMV 😊

2 hours ago, ped said:

I’m starting to recognise quite a few basses which for one reason or another keep going back up for sale 🤔

The itch gets scratched… then the reality of the cost sets in? 
Was often my dilemma anyway when owning old gear and the prices went north. 

6 minutes ago, Baloney Balderdash said:

Vintage voiced pickups could mean either 50's, 60's or 70's pickups though, which all got a different general basic character to each other, plus then variations within those.

 

Back then they used the same pup for the 57/62 reissues. 

Here’s another page that introduces the new range, FYI @Basszilla

https://fcat.no/catalogs/FMIC/Fender.FMIC.1995.Frontline.Vol.16.Summer.1995.pdf

15 hours ago, Basszilla said:

Hi all

 

I have a couple of pbasses which I use for everything these days. 

 

A 2004 black on maple and a 1996 oly white with rosewood. I believe it is one of the 50th anniversary models of that time.  I bought it off someone on here years ago and I can't for the life of me remember who. 

 

Just wondering really, as they sound quite different, what is the 96 based on model wise? What pickups are in them etc?

 

The neck is pretty chunky and it has a much darker round tone than the maple 2004. 

 

Cheers

 

Tim

 

 

This picture is from one of the ‘96 Fender Frontline magazines. States a vintage pup. 
 

https://fcat.no 

5 minutes ago, briansbrew said:

The neck Lacquer has the usual chips down the side and the tide mark on the heel is evident...

Neck looks legit, especially with those stamps on the heal. You’re right about the logo, not a chance it’s legit. 

17 minutes ago, briansbrew said:

I know they often had 2 extra holes in the neck pocket, but there’s a fair few more there - worst case scenario is it’s an old refin that kept the stamps, it happens. I may be wrong, hard to always see in pics. 
 

edit - if resprayed, and that’s an if, it could have been put back to the original colour as a stamp seems to go just over the paint, as it would have. 

21 minutes ago, briansbrew said:

This is the date stamp, is there a chance that the logo has been reapplied at some stage maybe

 

 

The code is correct for a maple board ‘77 P Bass neck. So if the code is Fender legit, then it must of had a new decal. Is the body original finish? Sometimes matching headstocks were done on a refin. 

1 minute ago, Reggaebass said:

Normally yes, any pics Bagman

Any pot codes @Bagman ? 

19 minutes ago, JoeEvans said:

As an aside, if anyone can think of a good name for a bluegrass band playing covers of 80s pop hits, that would be great.

Now you got me thinking about starting a soul/RnB Bluegrass band and calling it Dirty Barn Dancing 😊

6 minutes ago, JoeEvans said:

As an aside, if anyone can think of a good name for a bluegrass band playing covers of 80s pop hits, that would be great.

Band-Jo-Aid - Do they know it’s Bluegrass? 

The Gr’80s

9 hours ago, Frank Blank said:

Hopefully we can all agree that regardless of inner dialogue/monologue, Kylie Minogue is rather marvellous.

Thanks, read this half hour ago and 🎵I just can’t get it out of my head… 🎶🙄

24 minutes ago, miles'tone said:

I can tune my bass to concert pitch by listening to the intro of Around The World by the Chili Peppers in my head as I know that it starts with Flea hitting a big E, so I tune my open E to his by singing that note and holding it, then the rest of my strings off that once I'm in.

 

 

Brilliant, just tried that, great tip! 😊

Just now, TimR said:

No. I think that's different. 

 

The same people often move their lips while reading. It's a neurological connection.

 

Everyone is different, we don't all work the same way, in last few years we are learning that no one is 'normal'. That's tough on people who want everyone to fit into their world view.

Guess what I should have says was ‘that can be a type of echolalia’ - though as you said, we are all different so could be other things too 👍

Just now, TimR said:

 

 

 

Notice some people repeat out loud what you're saying, slightly behind you saying it. I belive they don't have an inner dialogue and are processing what you're saying by vocalising it out loud. Although that may be a different phenomena and I'm misremembering. 

Could be a form of echolalia? 

I think there’s bound to be some people who can’t make up new music in their head (

i.e. make up a tune and ‘hear’ it, similarly there are people who say they can’t visualise. 
 

I’d guess many can make up a melody in their head, but that only a few could compose multi-melody / multi-instrument style pieces in their heads. 
 

The wonders of neurodiversity eh? 

Sad news. Was always envious when he had those 3 x Mike Lull basses; always great taste in gear, and a lovely man to chat to. 

33 minutes ago, Hutton said:

I know that. The info I offered was the luthier that changed the fretboard, why it was changed and the significance of the inlay. I also included before and after photos. I thought all of this info would be appreciated by the new owner. However, as I say I wish I hadn’t bothered and I will take this thread as a learning curve. Sorry for taking up bandwidth unnecessarily.

What you did came from a good place, seems off that you were admittedly not acknowledged or even get a quick ‘thanks and all the best’ email. 
 

I’m not a fan, they sent me out a bass with 2 significant issues that were not disclosed, and oddly can’t have been noticed by them prior to sale. There was a very weak apology (if you can call it that), and no recognition of wasting my time, especially when having to be in for a bass to be collected that should never have left the shop. I also had issues with their vague emails about delivery (though I got a phone call apology when I pointed out how confusing and ‘brief’ they had been). So yeah, I’m not surprised your email was ignored. 

11 minutes ago, MM Stingray 62 said:

The body has a gloss finish.

Cool, still very nice and great value 👌

GLWTS

That’s a really great price. Love my ‘95. 
 

Is that the rarer Velvet natural finish? Hard to see for sure in the photos. 

Oh wow, I had one of those as a teenager, don’t often these ones with that headstock. Super comfy neck, must be a bargain for someone at that price 👌

What a gent… Tony responded to my item wanted advert to let me know of one for sale (well it was until I bought it 😊). 

Cheers pal 🙏

On 08/02/2024 at 09:51, dodgnofski said:

My ‘68 P had them and also my first ever Fender - a Mustang in metallic Blue with a ‘go faster’ stripe.

Another cool example of Fender using up old stock lying around, such as those tuners. Perhaps in this case they used up parts before the P Bass revamp in ‘68. 

My favourite compressor this… you must have bought something very expensive and shiny Bruce 😂