No. 8 Wire

On 25/04/2021 at 00:27, Bass Wielder said:

Hi sorry to resurrect an old post....

I now own a line 6 studio 110 and have to say I’m having the same hiss noise. My thoughts lead me to this here, which is to bypass the preamp section or at least the effects and use the power section.

Can I humbly ask for an update on if you guys succeeded to do this or something like this?

 

Sorry,  haven't visited the site for... well about 10 months!

In short,  yes,  I succeeded.  My 110 is in storage right now but I can remember the basics.  Internally the preamp and power amp are two very separate units.  Its fairly easy to trace the power amp input, disconnect it and connect a 1/4 input jack.

Note that the power amp is 'dumb', it is just on or off, no master volume etc. So whatever preamp you use will need enough output to drive the power amp to get volume.  I used an old line 6 xt pod live which has a preamp mode and also a DHA valve preamp which could do the same.  Any pedal will probably do it, but you might not get the full output.

Mine might be out of storage in a month or so,  i can take a pic of the internals then if you need it.

Great to wake up to a new maiden song. Very much enjoyed it too. Reminded me of the red and the black,  another epic off the last album.  The book of souls was the first maiden album in a long time that I listened to on repeat. This next one could be even better. 

13 hours ago, ubit said:

Can anyone please tell me what is the story with this thread? I have notifications about it but when I hit them I get a message saying I am not allowed to view this thread. Contact admins if I have questions. I have sent many messages with no reply. I am at a loss.

I hear that thread was so good it's now going to be serialised by basschat.

Even if you are a fully paid up basschat supporter you can only read it in monthly installments.

Bit gutted Dusty is gone.  My favourite rock star bass player, singing since he was 8, on the road since he was 13.

Loved this story about how he worked in an airport in the 70s while Frank was in rehab.

https://ultimateclassicrock.com/dusty-hill-day-job/

I don't mind the aging voices, you lose some things but gain others.   Bruce still has it in my book,  check out the youtube vid of him singing Jerusalem with Ian Anderson in Canterbury Cathedral, magic.

Think of Johnny Cash's last album,  his faltering old voice makes that something really special.

I'm also reminded of Terry Jones singing on Pagan Altar's final album, haunting and memorable stuff.

If you want to listen to younger Bruce singing The Writing on the Wall, check out this cover by Bruce's Brazilian vocal doppelganger:

Opeth.  Sorceress is a cracking track to play on 5 string. 

Last couple of albums by Baroness are in D standard, but the Bass player plays a std 5 string on most stuff live. 

10 minutes ago, Doctor J said:

I thought The X Factor was massively underwhelming when it came out until I heard Man On The Edge played live, I think it was on Ray Cokes' show on MTV at the time. Unshackled from the lifeless production on the album, the rough live mix was full of fire and energy and showed there was nothing particularly wrong with the song or the singer. Blaze wuz robbed.

Blaze was a bit like Gary Cherone singing in Van Halen, nothing wrong with the vocals in particular, just not what you want to hear with that band.  At least he kept the band going and they didn't all pack it in after Bruce left. 

Who could've replaced Bruce though?  Dio maybe?

I thought Glenn Danzig had replaced Bruce when I first saw the promo pictures...

36 minutes ago, NickD said:

I kept expecting He-man to pop up in the video.

He did,  then he got slaughtered by skeletor Eddie...

1 hour ago, Ricky Rioli said:

Both times I listened to it, I found Alexander The Great going round my head afterwards 

Me too, it's only the 'can you see' part though. 

I haven't got anything intelligent to say about mixes etc, but I loved it.  I'm also more of a fan of Seventh Son and before,  but there has always been one or two songs on each album that are worth listening to.

Hopefully there will be more in this vein with the animation to go with each track. 

Quite something to turn up at a cash converters in NZ.

No idea if that is a good price, halve it for GBP.

https://www.trademe.co.nz/3109463843

3 hours ago, Maude said:

I can't remember who or what now, but wasn't there a band fronted by an Elvis impersonator that didn't play Elvis songs. 

Thanks @adamg67and @sammybee, good to know how the trade in works if you can't get there in person.

4 hours ago, adamg67 said:

I've mainly bought and sold on Basschat over the last few years, but there are few smaller more specialist dealers where trading in can be a good option. 

Just recently I traded in a bass with Classic and Cool. In this case I didn't want to miss the bass they had as it was exactly what I wanted, and the one I was trading in was their kind of thing, and although very nice not everyone's cup of tea. I probably could have got more on here but could have been waiting weeks or months. As it was I got 85% of what I paid for it and ended up with a bass I like much more.

I maybe could have found one a bit cheaper here but would have been waiting a while.

So in this case I'm very happy with the deal, but I doubt that would have been the case with one of the big chains.

 

Just out of interest, how did you do the trade in?  Did you courier the bass in or go to the premises yourself? 

1 hour ago, Ricky Rioli said:

Wikipedia told me that My Creation wasn't on the original, so I've been skipping that. If you're wondering which ones I'm on about, it's been tracks 3 and 4, Take No Prisoners and Five Magics, that have been disappointing me. 

I actually thought that i didn't remember that track very well.   Listening on streaming,  not the original tape...

I rate those two tracks you mention, but maybe less complex than most of the other tracks.

5 hours ago, Ricky Rioli said:

Given the veneration for Rust in Peace, I've been surprised by how inconsistent it is. I'm not expecting all 9 tracks to be at the level of Hangar 18, but there are at least two B-sides loitering in there. 

Just listened to the whole album again in the car been a while since i played the whole thing,  I disagree on that.  There is definetely one stinker on there "my creation" and I think it could be a joke, Megadeth had a tradition of a joke song or cover on each album.

The rest are very consistent in my view.  It almost surprised me listening back,  obviously holy wars and tornado of souls are high points, but the rest are only just further back. 

Listened to killing is my business again too for contrast.  Actually a lot more fun but also nastier (in a good way) than I remembered it. 

43 minutes ago, Ricky Rioli said:

After the excitement of So Far So Good..., Master Of Puppets soon had me looking up the dictionary definition of "portentous"... ...done in an overly solemn manner so as to impress... Hmm.

You should do an overall ranking list of the 8 albums once you've finished. I'd supply my own but it would be heavily biased by growing up with a couple of these. 

For instance,  I'd rate AJFA pretty highly as an album even though there is no bass.  I think it was my only metallica album for many years when such things were expensive to buy and hard to find for a poor kiwi.  So I have a soft spot for it.   Same with So Far, So Good, So What, although with the latter, I think it still rates high on its own merit too.

I love that. 

I really like that Ibanez do these crazy models.   They might be the only major manufacturer that does (or did) instruments like this. 

47 minutes ago, MHMSWC#03 said:

Didn't we all ...

Someone is still buying all the albums though. 

1 hour ago, Ricky Rioli said:

I'm now onto Peace Sells....what an album! It's taking me a while just to get my head around it all (very definitely not a complaint)

Yeah,  that's an awesome one.  So far so good so what was my favourite when I was young,  but now if I'm honest with myself Rust in Peace is.

I want to hear Marty Friedman playing Into the Lungs of Hell off so far... but I can't find any recording where he's done it.

I'm sure that's where the phrase comes from.  I play in my bedroom if I need to escape the kids,  so it's the reverse of that!  I use it to mean a player who doesn't play live (ie me), it probably started out as being derogatory, but I'm reclaiming it!  Even Cliff was a bedroom bassist once! 

1 minute ago, Killed_by_Death said:

 

I've never played in my bedroom. Do that many folks actually play in their bedroom?, for it to become the phrase?

I'm too tone-deaf to be in a band & just this past weekend I was not motivated to play. I had the whole weekend to myself & played exactly two songs, LOL!

I guess I should really commit to learning Anesthesia.

It would sound fantastic on my little hybrid NuTube amp.

 

I don't actually play in my bedroom either..  well not often.  Just a phrase.

4 minutes ago, Killed_by_Death said:

Five years on I'm still playing at home alone with no aspirations to join a band, but looking back I sometimes wish I had put it down then & just quit.

I stopped playing for a while after my last band.  Picked it up again about 5 years ago and have been solo bedroom player except for the odd jam/party/campfire.  It's probably natural to come and go from it a bit. 

I used to think it was all about getting ready to play in bands but now I get more enjoyment for it's own sake and there's always the faint possibly the right group of people will magically come together to play again.  If you enjoy it, stick with it.  I'm sure 99% of players are bedroom only anyway. 

7 hours ago, Ricky Rioli said:

be entertained by reading someone being extremely rude about it, I recommend this recent review

I started off being entertained by that but then it truly sucked the life out of me and I started losing the will to live!

Sounded a little bitter and twisted to me and based on what they became rather than what they were then.  Made a good point about all the remakes of Beyond the Realms of Death, of which Metallica have at least 3.

With reviews like that though,  it's a wonder anyone ever picks up an instrument and dares to have a go.

I think what gets missed in these things about who is the greatest etc, is creativity and energy.  It's not just virtuosity and sometimes not even that.  Cliff had that in spades.

Happy Cliff 'em All Day!