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I have this combo too. My first impression was not great as I thought it was very muddy however, tweaking the EQ soon sorted it out. I've added a MAG 115 extension cab and it does as the doctor ordered - moves more air! For the price I paid I can not complain at all. The only thing I found is that I got a funny rattle from the tweater - took it out only to find it was in bits the magnet had fallen off the back of the cone! Put it back together and it has not been a problem since so I take it just wasn't tightened in the factory.

[b]Why?[/b] Well, apart from the usual GAS moments accounting for several of my purchases, I really was getting sick of tripping over cables at rehearsal and when gigging. So, I thought I'd take the plunge into the world of wireless. I had read really good reviews on the G50 so clicked the buy button. [b]Where?[/b] I bought the G50 form GAK (UK based) next day delivery for free meant I did not have to wait for long [b]What?[/b] Well, the Line 6 G50. Receiver: You get 12 channels, cable simulation, main output and aux/tuner out, external wifi aerials, DC PSU, metal construction, signal/battery strength LED's, Data transmit LED. Transmitter: metal construction, excellent clip for clothing/strap, on/off, mute, channel select/naming/power save mode, cable 1/4" to TA4f, 2x AA batteries Other: Instructions, warranty etc. [b]How?[/b] Well it is as simple as plugging your bass into your amp! Put batteries in, plug cable into transmitter and into your bass, plug output from receiver into amp, select channel. Hey presto! [b]Verdict[/b] The Line 6 Relay G50 was really simple to setup, there are extra features such as naming your transmitter etc. that could be handy if you have more than one setup in your band. The Aux setup allows you to connect your tuner so that when you hit the mute button it routes the signal via the aux channel. When you turn the product on or off you don't get a pop of any kind through your amp. Noise free, I literally walked allover a huge building that has shody wiring and didn't get any loss in signal or any amplified noise. I got three green lights out of three. The unit does detect noise above a certain level and will indicate its severity using the three LED's (they change red when there is excessive noise) The clip is strong and the way the transmitter has been orientated the cables route well. I did some jumping around/ moved my bass around whilst playing and there was no movement. The quality of the cable is ok. It doesn't fill you with confidence as the barrel comes loose on the 1/4" jack but it's not much to replace to something that will meet your exact requirements. I'd rather they cut costs on the cable than on the actual build quality of the unit etc. The only problem I have had is that when the item arrived the master output was dead. I had the back off and checked with a multimeter and it was more than a dry joint in the soldering department. The aux/tuner out worked fine so I used that for my play around - the quality of signal must be the same to both jack outputs as it sounded great and gives you confidence that you have got an unaltered/ clean signal running to your tuner. GAK sent a courier with a replacement on a next day delivery once I had notified them of the problem. The only improvement I could offer is that with the G50, the professional stomp-box version, I'd have liked a plastic case it all could have been stored in. The box it comes in is good quality and with pref cut foam that would be ideal to transfer into another box if you'd want to but for Line 6 to supply one of these would be great. Liek I mentioned about the cable thought, I'd rather the money be spent on the product than a fancy case... Link to manufacturer: [url="http://line6.com/relay/"]Here[/url] I can put an 'unwrapping' video/ picture up if you really want... Hope this provides as a useful review for people. Any questions, just ask and I'll endeavour to answer your questions (PMing me might be a better option so I see to pick up the message) Josh

I use GP6 and find it very useful especially when the vocalist turns round and says "can we try that a semitone down" It's one way to ensure we are all singing from the same hymn sheet in the band. At times we go to learn a new song and all end up learning and slightly different version.

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Here's mine. Picked it up at Electromusic in Doncaster. Was owned by a session player in Scotland. MIA and has been customed with EMG pickups fitted and a Kahler bridge. I luuurrrve it! [attachment=67681:IMG_0250.jpg]

[quote name='Phil Starr' post='1072974' date='Dec 30 2010, 06:22 PM']If the speakers are out of phase the bass from one cancels the other and you only get a tinny bass light sound. The actual extent of this depends upon the distance between the speakers. I don't think this is the problem you are describing. Moving from 100W to 300W is less than a 5dB increase. If you have speakers that have peaks of +/- 3dB then some bits of the fender may be louder than some bits of the Ashdown. In addition our ears are more sensitive to some frequencies by as much as 20dB. If the Ashdowns are bassier they may well sound quiter and less punchy. In all rooms some frequencies resonate and others don't. Bottom A drives me mad in my current room for example. This means some amps suit some rooms more than others. In addition amps don't radiate all frequencies in all directions equally well. There are all sorts of lobing and directionality problems and these are much worse with multiple drivers. Think of the speakers radiating sound like a torch with a cracked lens and you get the idea. Any of these could be causing the things you describe. I'd test an amp in several rooms before I decided it was poor or not.[/quote] I think I have just had an epiphany or something - played a gig a few weeks back in Ab. The riff uses the root quite a lot and it just seemed to sound gash. I even looked up what freq Ab1 produced to see if i could boost it between my amp/ GEB7 - got in a bit of panic over it! At home it is more like A1 that is a bit of toneless wonder- i actually posted in the bass section sometime ago wondering whether it was a problem with my bass/ pickups! My sound was flappy and overly tinny to me on this little stage last night, the fender 210 was cranks full (I only use my 210+15 on about 6-7 when i take it) the guitarist out front said it was deep and bassy - probably was from where he was stood and the fact the amp was on a hollow stage. [quote name='MoonBassAlpha' post='1072978' date='Dec 30 2010, 06:31 PM']It's not about the mixing of the speakers at all, it's just that if the 15"speaker is wired the opposite way to the combo the two cabs will tend to cancel each other out, in other words if the 10" cones are going forward, the 15 will be going backwards. If the socket on the cab, or the speaker or cable are wired wrong, this could happen.[/quote] Checked the wiring and they are wired correctly - thanks for the info though. It is little things like this that can make a big difference clearly and was a quick check! thanks for all your bits of advice. I've spent an afternoon/evening playing bass as a consequence of trying things out, so, if nothing more than turning a cab on its side I got to play bass for hours! Winner every time! Our drummer loves my rig - he likes the sound and can always hear it clearly. Thinking about it I love my rig too (its not the best its not the worst) but it is my second rig (i stepped up from an Ashdown 180) It is a strange thing when someone comments on a what you class as an inferior rig as sounding better al sorts jumps into your head. Gonna compare the two amps on Monday and find what the guitarist likes in the fender and get that into the ashdown if i can.

[quote name='dincz' post='1072939' date='Dec 30 2010, 05:46 PM']Combo and 15 out of phase?[/quote] Can you explain this a little further/point me to a thread that does - I think I know what you're going to say but not secure enough to say it. I've heard of 10's and 15's being a big 'no no' due to the risk of being out phase but then seeing so many people use the setup (and some being using the setup as me) it led me to believe it is folklore - however my electronics and music tech qualifications (although they feel pretty useless at the moment) tell me that there must be some truth in it thanks to good old subject physics!

[quote name='ThomBassmonkey' post='1072893' date='Dec 30 2010, 05:03 PM']This. I've never been able to EQ any Ashdown I've ever played. They've all either been wooly and bassy or clear and tinny (or half wooly and half tinny). I've no doubt that there's exceptions to the rule, but I've not found them yet (though there are Ashdown owners on here that seem pleased). Have you tried not using the 15" cab? 10" speakers tend to be a bit punchier, or maybe the cab's interfering with the combo's speakers somehow. Whatever mine or anyone else's opinions on Ashdown, it sounds like you just prefer the sound of the Fender and it sits in your band's mix better. If you can afford to replace your amp, it's definitely something worth looking into. If you can't, try using an EQ pedal and/or compression before your Ashdown, it might help clear up the signal a bit and give you more control over where you're going in the mix.[/quote] Hi, I don't think i've ever managed to EQ an ashdown either! I'm using a GEB7 to give me effectively a 12 band EQ as non of the Ashdown Freqs are the same as the one on the GEB7. I've just asked the guitarist to clarify what he said "the sound was deep and bassy but still had clarity" I'm new to bass (moved from guitar) so had a strict budget of £1000 (well I blew that budget but hey thats music) so went with a decent bass (MIA P-bass) and then the mag300. I played it in the shop and liked its tone etc and to be fair in my music room at home I still like the sound. You've struck a chord about it just not sitting in the mix. The lead guitarist uses a Mesa Boogie d-5 (50w) and if it is on 2 the drummer needs to use sledgehammers to hear his drums - the amp is fantastic- bright/crunchy/glassy/warm all at different stages and when he wants it. I've tried with and without the 15 and as you say the 210's have that mid/high mid punch/ rasp. The 15 does round of the bottom end. I've recently added the 15 to move some more air - it does not respond as well to the higher frequencies - you can tell when you roll each frequency on one at a time with the 210 and 15 side by side. I have put the combo on it's side so there is a vertical stack to the 210's and must say that standing back from the amp it makes a difference (up close not so much) My only other theory is that the rehearsal space means that bass, drums and vocals are on a small stage whilst the two guitarists are on the floor. Now last night the 210 Fender was on the stage probably at about shoulder level on the lead guitarist. Normally my 210 is propped under the 15 raising the 210 for my benefit - is he just getting the rolling warm lows from the 15? My problem is what to go for and what if I try it, like it but it doesn't fit into the mix again! I'm finding this bass amp business much harder than the guitar amp side of things - think it is because bass is more important!

[quote name='EBS_freak' post='1072817' date='Dec 30 2010, 03:23 PM']PS wattage not equal to volume.[/quote] Goes without saying but I can see how you think i'm hooked on that with my comparing W's Volume isn't the issue- it's how the sound cuts through. Having sat down and thought about it more I think there are a few more variables that could have influenced things. Thanks for the hints - i'll check them out on Monday.

[quote name='EBS_freak' post='1072739' date='Dec 30 2010, 02:13 PM']Why? Easy. Ashdown = woolly * runs away *[/quote] So wooly that 300w v 100w is negated. However, to support your argument and make me pine after some EBS gear... Thought I'd have a look in the cab to see if anything was a miss. Found one screw, then another and finally a third. Hmmmm...... Too small to hold amp into cab, too small to hold 10"s into cab, not too small however to hold the magnet on to the tweeter horn. Funnily enough the sound is now much brighter and cutting. I've reset all my EQ's and started from scratch again blending a frequency at a time on my rig and then filling any gaps with my GEB7. Much happier... although has this all been psychological and it's made no difference at all as the tweater is not going to be rated that high on the W scale (probably around 25w?) and is it more that I've reset my EQ and redone my sound now I'm getting a better ear for what I want?

Hi guys and gals, Right, I have real predicament I'm hoping you can shed some light upon. I own: Ashdown MAG300 210t combo (308w @ 40hm) with an Ashdown 15" cab. Fender MIA P-bass A range of Boss effects (bass>FV50>OC3>ODB3>BF2>CH1>DD3>GEB7>amp) The place where we rehearse has some gear and due to me suffering from the festive period, I could not be bothered to lug it to the rehearsal space. The bass amp they have there is a Fender Rumble 100 (210t like my Ashdown) 100w @4ohm Now looking at the amps side by side mine should easily be more powerful, right? Band practice last night the lead guitarist (a very nice reasonable guitar player I'll add) commented on how punchy my bass sounded. Now I rolled some low mids and boosted the high end a little bit for a couple of punky numbers we did but other than that left it flat. The question: Why is the Fender cutting through more than my Ashdown rig? I'm thinking it has to be me messing around with the EQ. Is it that I'm sharing the power of the amp adding the 15 and that is effecting things. This has been doing my head in, that comment keeps rolling around in my head to the point where I'm thinking of trading my rig in and getting something bigger (4x10 and a seperate head...) Anything you can suggest to try would be great (next band practice is Monday) Thanks in advance, Josh

I've ended up getting a bigger car recently too SPHDS. Gone from a fiesta to a focus - with me gigging more, travelling a lot watching football and camping the summer it didn't require to much thinking. I'm thinking more from when you arrive to a venue to getting it setup. some gigs have quite a distance from parking to venue as well! I've ended up getting some heavy duty casters for my ashdown mag300 210. So, Journey 1: My ext. sits on top of the combo and then pedal board on top. Journey 2: Bass in hardcase and alu briefcase with cables/tools etc. Those wheels have cut it down considerably! Oh and I attach a bungee cable from the combo grab handle on one side and loop it through my ext cab and over to the otherside just in case i hit a bump. -- 3 out of 5 have estates and with my Focus we should get everything in: Light rigs light stands x2 Mixer power amp snake cables wedge monitors x2 PA subs x2 PA mids/tweets x2 PA poles I feel more sorry for the drummer with his rack...

Ok I'll get the obvious out of the way: car carry on foot van tour bus roadie I have relatively little gear on here compared to some, however, I do have: Bass guitar in hard case Ashdown combo Ashdown ext. cab effects pedalboard alu briefcase with cables etc. in. What I'm really asking for is how do you get your equipment as easily as possible to your venue from your mode of transport? The reason I ask is because I'm considering building a trolley system to sit everything thing on OR getting some flight case style wheels to fit on the bottom of my combo (then stick the combo on top when transporting)? Whatcha's all think?

Well I received the Klotz cable today. Went for the 1/4" to Speakon connector because I could really. The 1/4" jack is huge and very solid, the cable is thick - I thought at first it wouldn't actually make the distance as it does not look flexible at all. However, it made it fine. Speakon connector is as you'd expect. I think there is many many years in this cable. I don't know whether it is just me but my extension cab seems more prominent. Thanks for the advice etc. Josh

I'd originally done this - bought an instrument patch cable in a different colour so it would always be used as the speaker cable. I've now gone for the jack to speakon connector for your reasoning exactly. What do you think to the cable ashdown supply from the head into the cab? looks flimsy-er than an instrument cable to me...

Are spraker cables wired differently to instrument cables btw (ie tip/shaft)?

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Hi, I've recently got an extension cab (Ashdown 15") to my Ashdown MAG300 210t. Now, I popped on to the net to buy a 1/4" to 1/4" cable, a metre long - it's basically a patch cable... I've been reading around here and I've noticed a few people talking about cables taking all the watts. Now my amp is not that powerful will be ok? What are the potential consequences? Can you spec me an alternative cable? There is a neutrik connection on the back of the cab. Would I be better getting a 1/4" to neutrik connection? thanks in advance.

I use the Jim Dunlops - got them ages ago (10 years) they have been on numerous guitars and now reside on my new bass.

Thanks for all your replies. If nothing else I want it to improve my ears/ fingering. I'm looking to pick one up cheap and maybe get confident enough to use it in a few rehearsals just to dial in some skills (I am new to bass but have been a gigging guitarist for 12 years).

I'm sure this has been covered before but after a few searches it may well just relight the topic. I've been looking around on the ebay etc. at fretless basses. I've noticed that some have fret markers (as if the frets have been filled in) and ones where there are just fret markers. How have people found their first few weeks of playing fretless - is it an exponential learning curve or do you just drop into the run of things? What are benefits you have found since playing fretless? ie Tone etc. I look forward to your thoughts! Josh

There are quite a few vids on Youtube. One in particular looks to see if the M13 replaces his stompboxes.