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This is what I'm thinking, and why I asked the question. I have one One10 which I use for home practise, it sits in the corner of the room almost unnoticed, but last week I decided to use it for a rehearsal and I was amazed at just how tight and punchy it sounded, so this got me thinking that if I had two, would they be able to cut through in a average size pub gig? We play mainly 70's classic rock covers.

Here's two I built using Fender bodies, necks, Fender Custom Shop ‘62 and Nordstrand NP4 pickups, with Schaller BM Tuners on both. Total cost for the two = £1600 I've had many "high-end" Fenders over the years and these two play as well as any of them, and would a CS model be £4,200 better than one of mine? I doubt it.🫢

1 x Barefaced 2x10 or 2 x Barefaced One10's? Anyone tried both these configurations, and what were your thoughts?

Thanks Phil, I will take all you have said onboard.👍

The Yamaha DBR 12`s are on my shortlist so can you update when you get to use them with your band please? Cheers.

This is what I find so frustrating, I've been searching all over the internet and some say 2000 watts but like you, I suspect that is peak power, and it could also be combined.

Following on from my previous post where I asked for some advice on a PA for a pub band. My question now is: How much power (rms) per side would be needed to play in small to large pubs, we would like to have a bit of headroom so that we are not pushing the PA to it's limit when playing the larger pubs? Only the vocals and kick drum will be going through the PA. If we ever get to play at a large venue or festival, then we would assume that a PA and sound engineer would be provided.

All the Mexican bodies come like that, I bought two last year and they were the same. This is from the Fender website.

I really do appreciate all the advice guys, so thanks everyone. As stated earlier, we are all "old gits" so we want to keep everything as simple as possible, and although it's me asking the questions on behalf of our band, I certainly won't be taking charge of the PA, I've always been a plug and play man, and that's the way it's staying, I've always left the PA to the singer to setup. 😉 My last gigging band consisted of vocals, guitar, drums, and bass, we had an old powered mixer and two beaten up passive speakers, only vocals went through the PA, and despite our setup, experienced musicians watching us often said to us that our sound was amazing, every instrument could be heard, and we sounded really tight, no bottom end boom, etc. So what we are thinking now is to maybe get a couple of Mackie Thump212 12" Active PA Speakers, with Stands, Stand Bag & Cables for £772.00 This will obviously eat up all our budget, and then add a bit more for a mixer. Do you think these would be a good choice, and if so, recommendations for a half decent mixer would be appreciated? https://www.musicmatter.co.uk/mackie-thump212-pair-with-stands-stand-bag-cables?gad_source=1&gclid=CjwKCAiAlJKuBhAdEiwAnZb7lTiQ7M79HSIjaqMoylxTVUV5J02P5dxaCXvWw4t5bBlUpZX-595tsxoC5WkQAvD_BwE

Thanks, that's sounds like great advice.

Thanks for your advice guys, I'm beginning to think that we need to have a re-think? 🫢 maybe we should consider putting the whole band through the PA, so I will put it to them. I guess that once we've done it a few times then we will get used to it, especially if we all so our bit to make it easier.

We are a covers band playing mostly 60's and 70's classic rock, nothing too heavy. Both our guitarists play small valve amps and know how to use them properly, they are on stands pointing upwards, they don't play loud, they play with a lot of feeling, our drummer has a soft touch, and me? I'm often told to turn up. I use a wireless system and regularly go out front to keep a check on the levels, and I always make a point of asking the pub/venue manager to tell me if we are too loud, because as a band, we do appreciate that bar staff need to be able to hear what the customers are ordering at the bar, and the punters like to be able to hear each other talking without having to shout loudly at each other, and we find that this attitude is appreciated by the venues and we usually get repeat bookings. Because we feel that our years of experience has resulted in knowing our equipment well, and how to get the best out of it without blasting the punter's ear drums, we think that we only need to put the vocals and kick through the PA to achieve a good sound. Despite our years of playing between us, none of us are very knowledgeable regarding PA systems, which is why we are after some advice on the type of PA that would suit our needs, and hopefully light enough that five ageing muso's can carry in and out, and set up without too much hassle.😉 This is the gear: Guitarist 1: Roland Blues Cube 30w Tube Amp Guitarist 2: Yerasov GTA-15 15w Tube Amp Bass: Fender Rumble 800 Combo Drums: Various kits, but he is a soft hitting drummer

This is what we want to do, we are all experienced musicians in out 60's and 70's and have no intention of playing larger venues anymore, we just want to enjoy playing music to a decent standard in local pubs, and to be honest, the thought of loading loads of heavy PA gear in and out of pubs and spending a lot of time putting everything through the PA just doesn't appeal to us. Our drummer plays a small acoustic drum kit, both guitarists play through small valve amps, so we think we can create a decent sound by just putting the vocals and kick through the PA, which is what we have all done in the past with our previous bands. I think what I really need to know is what sort of PA system should we look for to play in pubs, but have enough power to cover the occasional larger venue.

Thanks for all the advice so far guys, I'm taking it all onboard.👍

Here's me playing my Burns Sonic bass in 1967 (please ignore my flower power kipper tie), I was still at school when I bought it so I borrowed £15 from my elder sister who was working, I later swapped it for some fishing tackle because I never thought that I would be good enough to play in a band, I still regret it to this day.🙁

Probably up to £750 second-hand.

Yes I should have been more specific and I will amend the post, 👍 it's Vocals, Drums, Guitars x 2, Bass with probably just all the vocals and maybe kick.

We are a new band that hopes to be gigging sometime soon, our singer has a great voice but hasn't gigged for over 20 years, so he has no PA at the moment. We will be playing pubs mainly, and the odd small club occasionally, with probably just the vocals and kick going through it. None of us have that much knowledge of PA systems, so our question is: How much power do we need, and roughly how much do we need to spend? We will probably go down the second-hand route.

I've transferred my current project to a folder on my desktop and it seems to be working fine now.

No, but as I usually only work on one project at a time, would it be better if I was to create a folder on my desktop and work from that, and then when completed, move anything I want to save to an external drive?