Lozz196

[quote name='BurritoBass' post='924122' date='Aug 13 2010, 04:46 PM']Welcome to Basschat[/quote]
Welcome to Basschat.

[quote name='BurritoBass' post='924124' date='Aug 13 2010, 04:46 PM']Welcome to Basschat Andy[/quote]
Welcome to Basschat - good to see another Fender-Man on board.

[quote name='Telebass' post='923535' date='Aug 13 2010, 09:41 AM']Howdy! Always good to get yer mitts on your dream bass! Go for it![/quote]
Welcome to Basschat & congrats on yr new purchase.

[quote name='ironside1966' post='923946' date='Aug 13 2010, 02:45 PM']My guess would be because of spillage in to the other Mics.
To get a good live recording you need a good sympathetic room and the instruments, cabs and mics placed so that the spillage compliments the recording, done well this sounds great but because of the fact you a limited to what you can do afterwards it takes a good band and a great engineer with experience or a lot of experimentations to get the microphones in the right place. So I would say that without the acoustics, time or experience using amp modeled should give better results but it is still down to the competence of the engineer
Having the gear doesn’t guarantee the skill to use it Some people learn how to do something one way and that’s how it stays.

To play the devil’s advocate though

A lot of musicians are focused on their sound not in the context of a band they just want a big sound but a band with every one having a big sound doesn’t sound huge it sound a bloody mess with most arrangements but I don’t get the impression this is you.[/quote]
Thanks for that observation. Yep, my aim when playing is really only to be noticed if I completely b*lls something up. This way I`m laying a solid foundation for the guitar and vocs to work over. This actually isn`t the sound I love, though, if I were to use the sound I actually love ...... well it would be Bruce Foxton from The Jams sound - but totally not required in my band - aside from when we play In The City & Eton Rifles that is. Or JJs sound from The Stranglers. But again, too much like "lead-bass" for my role in the band.

[quote name='ironside1966' post='923866' date='Aug 13 2010, 01:45 PM']Lots of bass players record straight to the desk with a DI of course and get a great sound many modern amps are transparent giving a straight in to the desk sound but that sound doesn’t suit everybody the ideal way is a mixture of amp, cab and DI.
Where you short of time so he was rushing, was the engineer going to use an amp plug-in at a later date?
Why was the guitarist taking over what gave him grater knowledge over the engineer?
I would wait to pass judgment until you have heard the finished product.[/quote]
The engineer [b]was[/b] our guitarist. He has all the recording gear, and our aim was a recording of the band "live". Hence my irritation that if its a recording of the band playing live, why is it so important for one of the band members to not be using their own set-up?

My fears were based on having heard him tinker around with my Precision into Marshall Amp & Marshall 4x12 at rehearsals, when we`re all just messing abt in breaks. He arranges the eq so my setup sounds like a Jazz on the bridge pickup into a solid state 1x10, saying it cuts through. It does, but my style is laying a solid foundation for the guitar to sound great on top of, not to get in the guitars way. Think Cliff Williams of AC/DC style.

He was going to use plug-ins, no idea which, I wouldn`t have been consulted upon this either, but, bearing this, and the above in mind, I wanted to make sure that what was recorded sounded like me in the first place.

Might add, I would have been equally critical if the guitar sound/equipment recorded was not what we use live - as I said "live" recording says to me the band using their regular gear, just mixed.

[quote name='Lozz196' post='916386' date='Aug 5 2010, 08:49 PM']Behringer DC9 Stompbox Compressor
5 months old, still with original packaging and instructions.
Adjustable Output and Sensitivity levels. Has an amazingly clear blue "on" light. You`ll never be in the dark as to wheher this unit is on or off.

A good entry level compressor that punches above its weight in terms of sound quality and function.

2 links, first to a Basschat Posting about compressors:
[url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=337"]http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=337[/url]

2nd link to a post from this topic, to a review of the DC9, that rates it highly for its price:
[url="http://www.ovnilab.com/reviews/behrDC9.shtml"]http://www.ovnilab.com/reviews/behrDC9.shtml[/url]

OK, its not the flashiest of compressors, but if you`re new to compression, and don`t want to spend a lot of money, only to find out that compression isn`t really for you, this pedal is ideal. The best deal I can find on-line is £28.00 inc postage packing within UK.

As such, £20.00 - this includes postage/packing within the UK.

Payment as a gift, via Paypal, please.[/quote]
BUMPING for the weekend

[quote name='Delberthot' post='923262' date='Aug 12 2010, 09:59 PM']That is realy nice but I've gone all pointy in the bass deprtment[/quote]
These are great basses, I have a honey-blonde one, and soundwise/playability it is not far off from my MIA Standard Precisions. Amazing quality.

Great price too. Someone should snap this up - you won`t be dissapointed.

[quote name='algmusic' post='923429' date='Aug 13 2010, 02:00 AM']first of all. Look 2nd hand. you'll get a better quality rig? (check the forum - you'll get alot of true advice rather than a salesman at a shop
second what bass amps have you heard that you like?
third what style do you play?[/quote]

Agree with the other post, re playing style and previous experience of amps you`ve heard, being a good starting point of reference, A good all round versatile make in my view is Hartke.

Another thing to think of is the old combo v stack issue. Again, your style of music/band could have a major factor in this.

I`d definately look on the for sale section on here, there seems to always be good deals about, and for £200 - £300, you`ll be able to get something gig-worthy quite easily.

[quote name='Low End Bee' post='923640' date='Aug 13 2010, 11:28 AM']If you're going to keep the bass and it's your main one do it.

I always regret that the best Precision I played when I was buying was sunburst. I like solid colours and sonic blue is one of the best. Matching headstocks are lovely too.[/quote]
I`ve just my main-player Precision refinished, from black with black scratchplate, RW neck, to white with black scratchplate, RW neck - very SidVish.

For some reason, although it was my main-player, whenever I was thinking abt getting a new bass, I`d think of using that one as a trade-in. I put up a swap post here on Basschat, and Burritobass remarked why don`t I get a refinish, if the bass was my main-player. And he was right, it was purely down to the colour scheme, nothing to do with playablity/sound etc. So went for it.

Got it back yesterday, couldn`t be happier. Was done by TJC Guitars in Stevenage - cost - a very nice £150. Finished in nitro-cellulose too, so will "age" with the bass - all good in my opinion.

Would def recommend it - its given me a new slant on my main bass.

[quote name='Lifer' post='914468' date='Aug 3 2010, 11:57 PM']You always record dry DI'd and then reamp to have a fiddle with the tone.[/quote]
Thanks to all for the advice. Just posting an update.

Did the recording last night, and I was expected to plug straight into some non-bass-amp unit, that the headphones are monitored through, and when I tried it, it sounded like a very tinny buzz-saw, crossed with Lemmy. Nowt wrong with Lemmys sound, but it isn`t how I sound, and seeing as this was meant to be a live recording, where all the other band members were using their own kit, requested DI-ing from my amp. Was told that it couldn`t be done!

So, got my trusted Behringer BD121 out, plugged into that, into this non-bass-amp unit, and my bass suddenly sounded like a bass again.
Sooooo glad I got that piece of kit, otherwise I would have ended up with a "plinky-plinky" bass sound, full of "definition". In other words, sounded like a de-tuned guitar with no guts. Of course will have to wait for the mixing/eq-ing, but, at least what I`ve recorded has the solid bottom end that my is bass playing.

Why oh why do people who record always get the guitarists set-up exactly as is used on stage, then do anything but use the bassists own gear to record with. Is it that they`re trying to cut corners, don`t know how to record bass properly, don`t regard the bass as an important part of the band, or all three?

Would be interested to hear opinions from others who`ve experienced similar situations.

[quote name='gary mac' post='923450' date='Aug 13 2010, 06:42 AM']You don't say where you are, so we don't know what is local to you.

Try the Bass Merchant, Bass Direct, The Gallery.

Or you could check out the Fender website, I think they list their authorised dealers.



all the best, Gary[/quote]
If yr near Herts/Beds/Bucks, Coda Music in Stevenage & Luton def worth contacting.

I`ve bought stacks of gear from them over the years, great service, competitive prices.

[quote name='bassatnight' post='922342' date='Aug 12 2010, 09:18 AM']Fellow Basschatters,

I have over the last six months gone from 8 basses down to just the one a mint 1981 Aria SB1000 which I will never part with but like all of us at some point or another the old finances were stretched and I needed to recoup some money urgently due to redundancy and a 150 mile house move.

I cannot tell how heartbroken I was to see the following leave my possesion:

Fender American P Black/Maple
Fender American Jazz Sunburst/Rosewood
Sandberg JM Natural
Status Graphite Fretless
Aria SB700 Natural
Aria SB1000 Paduk
Westone Thunder 3 Fretless

I am now happily working again and settling fast into the new area (Ely) but I have serious Bass withdrawls but only limited funds until the old house sells so I have decided to purchase a high end instrument on the old hire purchase until the house gets sold. My problem is what to get, ideally I want to get to a situation where I have managed to get a nice Fender P, a Jazz, Stingray and a decent fretless but not sure what to get first, I have gone from just getting one of the new classic series Squires to tide me over to a £1200 Ray, P or Jazz.

Anyone else been in this position where you know 'roughly' what you want but can only afford just the one for now but which to get first!? arrghh!!

Steve.[/quote]
Thats a toughie Steve.

Not been in that position, but think if I was, I`d have to go for the bass that fits best with the music I play. i.e - if all the bands I like, and play music for in my band are Precision based, that would be my answer.

If however, your music has a variety of sounds, go for the most versatile, the one that can cover most/all bases in one hit.

[quote name='cameltoe' post='921692' date='Aug 11 2010, 03:36 PM']I wouldn't take a new USA over my Road Worn, no chance, I love the way it feels. It's ALL about the feel to me.

Having said that, from my limited time with trying USA Precisions, (and not having owned one) I've not been able to grumble about the lack of string thru body from the Precisions I've had in the past. I've always wondered what difference this would make though (even going so far as to get a quote from a luthier once for having a Mexican modified in this way. £100, if you're interested).

I guess I've not heard the differences you hear, but I guess that would change if I ever owned one and played it in a band situation, where most things tend to become apparent.

A USA precision is on my GAS list, and I guess if I do eventually get to own one, it would be nice to know the extra cost is justified.[/quote]
Out of my 5 Precisions, 3 have string-thru bodies, 2 being the MIA Standards, and one the CIJ 51 Reissue. The MIAs seem to me to have a "smoother" sound. Less "spiky", and have that "felt as well as heard" quality to the sound. The MIM, even with the upgraded Fender pickup is noticeably different. At a practice, when using my MIM, our guitarist asked "wheres the beefy bottom end gone?"My Classic 50s is nearly there (same pickups as MIA Standard), but is just a bit away from the MIAs.

So in my view, string-thru is better, though seeing as an MIA Standard is over £800, and the Classic is just over £500, is string-thru worth an extra £300 - probably not. But both my MIAs were 2nd hand so didn`t shell out the extra for them

[quote name='ahpook' post='921349' date='Aug 11 2010, 10:29 AM']to me basses are tools, and tools get the odd battle scar.

so it goes.[/quote]
Yep, gotta expect it - and I think Fenders look better with some genuine battle-scars anyway.

Dunno how I`d feel if I was a Rickenbacker/Status/Warwick owner tho.

[quote name='Tee' post='921288' date='Aug 11 2010, 09:06 AM']Bump ^_^[/quote]
Am as equally gutted as Jonthebass, as just had one of my US Precisions resprayed this exact colour scheme.
When I could have bought this one, and had yet another Precision

However, this colour scheme is obviously popular, so shouldn`t be a problem selling.
Mid-week bump on me

[quote name='bigsmokebass' post='921207' date='Aug 11 2010, 01:57 AM']My Marshall can pack a mean punch ;]

but agreed, ampeg tend to be the "thing" for all rock and metal these days.

Hartke anyone????[/quote]
Yep, my Marshall DBS 7400 is extremely fine when it comes to punch, though I use it in a punk band.

From what I`ve read (and used one briefly at a rehearsal studio) the Marshall VBA 400 is a monster amp. Put it with one (or two) of the matching VBC 412 cabs, and Marshall Rock Heaven!

[quote name='Telebass' post='921218' date='Aug 11 2010, 06:05 AM'][size=3][font="Comic Sans MS"][i]"While Gibson brochures pictured men who looked like your dad, wearing business suits and playing elegant jazz instruments, Fender literature pictured guys who looked like you, playing rocketship guitars and hanging out at the beach with suntanned blondes. Take your pick."
Tom Wheeler, 'The Stratocaster Chronicles'[/i][/font][/size]

Says it all, really![/quote]
Certainly does!

For some reason, I always expect Gibsons to be kept in pristine condition, whereas Fenders I assume will show some battle scars, and have a few tales of life on the road. Cool is always a bit ragged around the edges.

[quote name='stevie' post='921070' date='Aug 10 2010, 10:39 PM']Your problem is that your Vintage copy is much better than you think. Don't underestimate it.[/quote]
Agree, the Classic 50s is a great instrument.

When I got mine, for the first couple of days afterwards, my left hand was aching a bit, due to the larger neck (and all my basses are Precisions, so am used to fairly wide necks) however, I fairly quickly got used to it, and even tho I only play it at home (along with my 2 other home-use P-Basses with thinner necks), it now doesn`t cause me any bother at all.

So I`d say stick at it for a while, you may find it to not be a problem after a bit. And if it is, those basses seem to be very well thought of here on Basschat, you could probably sell it quite quickly, and, stumping up another £100 or so, afford an American Precision - the necks are thinner on those.

[quote name='faceman' post='921022' date='Aug 10 2010, 09:42 PM']You can get an excellent slap sound from a P, even with flatwounds mate. Take a look at this video - [url="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5oSGkPUc_0"]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w5oSGkPUc_0[/url] to see what I mean

Each time I watch it, it reminds me of how much I want a P. I owned a Classic Vibe Fiesta Red and that was sexy as hell. I did a review ages ago and it sounded awesome.[/quote]
Think it may be a case of which model Precision did you get? Some, such as the Classic 50s, have a hugely wide neck that can feel uncomfortable to start with. If it`s one of these, that may be where the problem lies.

[quote name='lowdown' post='920917' date='Aug 10 2010, 07:24 PM']If your dream Bass is about the colour , and you like playing the one you got [ that has been refinished anyway]
Why not get that one refinished in your dream colour - it will be cheaper.



Garry[/quote]
Good point there Garry - I`m actually having that done right now. My black American Precision, for some reason, whenever another bass was thought of, would be the first I`d think of using as a trade-in. But, it`s the one I always play live, my first choice, my go-to bass.

Placed a "swap/wanted" post on here, and BurritoBass remarked why don`t I get a refinish if it`s a good player, rather than swap/p-ex. So took the advice, and on Thurs I will be picking up an newly finished Arctic White Precision - very Sidney Vish!

So yr right, a dream bass, albeit in a different colour may already be in a lot of peoples collections. Extra bit of cash could finish the deal.

[quote name='chris_b' post='920410' date='Aug 10 2010, 10:27 AM']I agree. I had to go neo because my Mesa Boogie cabs put me in bed with a strained back twice in 2 years. I then decided to get rid of the neo 410's because of the weight and now I use either a 2 210 stack or a 2 112 stack. I can get lighter with Alex's Compact but I'm practically at the end of the line on cab weight!

A trolley is the next step! I've also found that in "older" bands people are more reluctant to help you carry your gear![/quote]
Stacks for me. The only combo I`ve ever used that was ok in a small venue was my Marshall MB4210. Others I`ve tried had the volume, but not the depth of sound required.

[quote name='deathpanda' post='914040' date='Aug 3 2010, 04:51 PM']It's quite a while ago now, but oh well, here's a big -1 for parcelfarce. Bought a guitar from ebay, was shipped from Scotland with next day delivery (I realise this is not realistic and shouldn't have been an option in the first place), and after a week of me losing my mind and emailing the seller, it turned out to be stuck in a depot in Wales. I was assured that it would come on the Friday of the second week, and it did. Thanks ParcelFarce!

oops did I say thanks? I [i]meant[/i] f*** off go to hell...[/quote]
I used APC to send a jazz bass, in a hard case, to Newcastle, from Hertfordshire. Cost was £27.00, and included insurance. The main thing for me though, was that i could deal with an actual human being, and when I got to the depot to drop it off, the same human being dealt with me.

Big +1 on that kind of service, even though a bit more costly than some others.

[quote name='GT40Graham' post='919013' date='Aug 8 2010, 08:16 PM']Hi,

I hear what you're saying and you're probably right but the layout does seem all wrong. The fan blows onto a large aluminium heatsink which is situated above the vents in the amp chassis so the air is exiting the amp from underneath the fan, seeing as hot air rises it seems to me that the fan will then recycle the hot air that has just exited the amp. If the amp had vents on the top then the fan sucking in would make more sense.

If the fan was pulling air out of the amp it would still pull cool air in but from under the amp and the hot air would exit via the fan.

You would assume that Marshall have tested all this but the fact that there are many reports of this overheating problem does give cause for concern.

Regards,


Graham.[/quote]
Hi Graham

I had the 4210, and have the 450H (though sale agreed for this) and never had any problems with either. However, in my dealings with Marshall, they have been great - real customer service, the type we used to have, before automated telephone lines etc. So I`m sure that they will manage to sort this problem for you. Depending on where you are, if you can get to Bletchley, I`d advise booking the amp in to coincide with one of their tours around the factory. That way, it gets checked out, whilst you see what goes on in Marshall HQ. Not many companies offer this.

Lozz

[quote name='Happy Jack' post='918993' date='Aug 8 2010, 07:59 PM']I drew the line at four!

4-string active with rounds
5-string active with flats
4-string passive P/J (+ graphite neck) with rounds
4-string fretless with flats

Two Sadowsky's really should NOT be a problem. Just stick a set of flats on one of them.

Seriously - it's a different bass.[/quote]
I have 5 Precisions:

2 for live use, and a 51 Reissue, Classic 50s, and a US thats a 60s Motown looky-likey, so 1st, 2nd & 3rd generation Precisions for home use.

Don`t need any more basses, though am sure one of those Probass Rickenfakers is gonna be added to the list.

So two? - nowhere near enough.

[quote name='geoffbassist' post='918597' date='Aug 8 2010, 10:48 AM']Its her problem. If she was upfront and fair then there's no problems. I guess she was put out as you flagged up her mistake.

What matters is she paid, if you can't win an arguement with someone like that.[/quote]
Same kindof thing happened with my band, at a regular venue.

We played last year, on the hottest day fo the year, so most people were outside, played 38 songs, and the landlady afterwards came up to us and asked if that was all we were playing, as she said she couldn`t afford to pay bands who only played an hour and 15mins. 38 songs! I know we`re a punk band, but we ain`t that fast!

Anyway, after the proverbial wait around for her to grace her own pub with her presence at the end of the eve, she then proceeded to hand over the dosh, and it was £50 more than we were meant to be getting. She then banned us from playing a charity event we`d agreed to play for free.

A mad as cheese!