Lozz196

I`ll echo the point of buying 2nd hand. Usually, what you pay for it, is approximately what you`ll get back, should you decide to upgrade later on. Plus, as it`s 2nd hand, for the same money, the item(s) you get is/are likely to be of higher quality, playability, and generally likely to have a better sound, all of which will enhance your progress on the instrument.

Nothing finalised yet Col. I depped for a band last week, and they were sufficiently impressed to now be considering two bassists in the same band. This result achieved without either threats or bribes, I might add

I had been just hibernating, but with the decent weather emerging, I`ve realised how much free time I have, so now starting to have a look about.

My epiphany moment was in Feb this year. My band had split, and I was considering selling the Ampeg stack that I`d managed to resource, a stack that I`d always coveted, as to me, Ampeg, when matched with a Fender Precision, are simply the best when it comes to bass. It was heavy though, hence considering the sale.

Anyway, I went to see a band play, and this was it. My last band (and all the bands before, come to think of it) had been bands with 4x12s for the guitars, and me with a stack, at least 1x15 & 2x10, but more recently a 4x12, or a 2x10 & 4x10. But this band, the guitarist had a 2x12 combo, and the bassist putting his amp through just one 4x10 cab, and they sounded great - the sound was so full, but not overbearing. Sharp, defined, yet bags of presence.

It reinforced my sell the Ampeg thoughts, so I did. Now have just the one Eden Nemesis 4x10 cab (52 lbs, so fairly light), with my TC Electronic Classic 450 amp. Still have the same sound (virtually) but much less backache.

Anyone else had a similar revelation?

I`ve not put this topic in Amps, as it`s not really an Amp Topic, for example, as the revelation may be always loved Precisions, then found that the Jazz was in fact the right bass for you, after years of playing.

Having had the amp head of this range, I can confirm they sound great. The links below are to Marshalls web-page, and downloadable pdf for this, and provide the specs:

[url="http://www.marshallamps.com/heritage/dbs/dbs_05.asp"]http://www.marshallamps.com/heritage/dbs/dbs_05.asp[/url]

[url="http://www.marshallamps.com/downloads/files/DBS%20Combos%20hbk%20Eng.pdf"]http://www.marshallamps.com/downloads/file...20hbk%20Eng.pdf[/url]

This seems to be a problem with OTB. There is a similar thread on here about this, which advised that and you can get a DI Box (or something like that) that works at -40 db, so rectifies this. Am sure the OTB Club will be able to inform of the specific item.

I`ve owned 17 basses in all, am now down to 2 - my lowest amount since joining Basschat I might add, the GAS caught me dreadfully when I joined up, only a year ago!

Whilst I would still love a decent Jazz, as I think they look so great, I just don`t get on with them, so hopefully will stick with my 2 US Precisions.

I did an outdoor gig - in a marquee in a very large garden - with my old Marshall set-up, DBS 7400 and VBC412 cab. 400 watts, running at around 4 on volume. Wasn`t through an external pa, only vocs were through the pa. Worked fine. So long as your set-up is loud enough that you can hear yourself on stage, if your going through the external pa, thats the only volume you need. And having used the same Peavey set-up, you have no problems there.

For cleans, and tubey rock, my TC Electronics Classic 450 does both very well, they`re about £550ish. Plenty powerful as well. TC also do a fairly light 410, in their BC range, 59 lbs, and about £380.

As recommended, I`d have a look in at The Bass Merchant. When I was looking at cabs, I called them, and must have spent a good 15 mins talking about different cabs, performance etc, and they were so helpful, advised me on my current 410, which does exactly what I wanted. They have a vast amount of gear there, and also have a vast amount of product knowledge too, rather than some places which just stock the items, and offer no advice.

TC state that their amps are compatible with three of their "8 ohm" cabs, but if using any other makes, to only use two 8 ohm cabs.

Talk about making this ohmage thing even more complicated!

Music is my hobby, its what I do for fun, and to relax, so the answer is no I wouldn`t do a gig/be in a band if I didn`t like the style of music.

However, if it were my profession, then the answer is yes, I would do it.

These Aerodynes are worth checking out:

[url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=132852"]http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=132852[/url]

Doesn`t look bad - Hartke make quality gear, and getting one of those 2nd hand, well If you can get it for £200ish, I think it would be a good buy.

Alex`s comments mirror many on here, and on T***bass - the SVT 410HLF is reported to be very bottom-endy, without too much else going on. Though with the vast eq capability of the SVT3PRO, I`m surprised it can`t be remedied.

That looks very nice!

From experience of both, I`d recommend either Squier or Yamaha, however Ibanez, which I`ve never played btw, also seem to get many recommendations on here, so if in your position, those would be the first three on my list.

I`m of the same opinion. Quality speakers will only reproduce what is put into them, but once you put what seemed like a duff amp into a great speaker cab, it can transform your opinion of the supposed duff amp.

Having read that, first thing I`d question here is did they use the same brand/series/gauge strings as before?

On the Stones theme - Lets Spend The Night Together is a great track, and very well known.

Virginia Plain - Roxy Music, another v well known track

Home Sweet Home - Motley Crue

[quote name='Clarky' post='1208070' date='Apr 22 2011, 10:49 AM']Why don't Tech 21 wake up and smell the coffee and make a small Class D amp with a Sansamp EQ section? They have one of the strongest brand names for DI/EQ and yet insist only on applying this to pedals or relatively heavy (>20lb) 'old school' type amps[/quote]
+1 - they would clean up big-time.

Probably between Muscle Museum by Muse, On Mercury by Red Hot Chilli Peppers, or Pump it Up by Elvis Costello & The Attractions

None particularly hard in terms of the actual notes played, but the feel of each of these, if gotten wrong, destroys the songs completely.

Finally got to use this last night in a band situation. Band consisted of bass, drums, 2 gtrs, and keys.

First off, this cab is loud. I believe the 104 db sensitivity claims! In the above situation, in a fairly large rehearsal room, I had my TC Electronic Classic 450 amps gain on 5, with the volume on 2. I upped it to 3 at one point, which is roughly around where I had this amp with my Ampeg cabs, and it was much louder on its own, than with the 2 Ampegs that I used to use.

Soundwise - was using a Fender Precision. Well after a bit of eq adjustment, had compression on very slightly, Tubetone on 5 to add a bit of grit, and everything else flat, tho did drop the low-mids by 1. Tweeter in the off position. The cab produced a nice controlled, never boomy bottom end. I was standing in last night, and the guys all remarked how deep and present my bass was, compared to their usual guy, who uses a Trace Elliot 1x15 combo. To me, the sound on its own is ok, but in the band mix, this is where this cab seems to shine. I liken it a bit to my views re Markbass in this respect. Don`t get me wrong, the sound on its own is fine, it just seems to really project when in the mix - and that`s what counts, in my view.

If I could change anything about it? Well the tweeter was a silver colour, and didn`t look right to me, so I painted it black, and now the cab looks much better. And, the handles are at the top, rather than halfway down, so although it`s light(ish) these to me make the lift a bit more difficult than it needs to be. Small niggles though, and nothing to really bother me that much.

Overall, I`m glad I made this purchase. I`m long past the wanting a great sound on my own, irrespetive/to the detriment of the band. To me, it`s the mix that counts, and I now know that this cab delivers. And its much easier to cart about than my previous 100 lb Marshall & 90 lb Ampeg cabs.

I use my little Marshall M15 combo. It`s the only practice amp - in my price range - which can actually make a sound like I use live. Great little amp, and any more than 2 on the volume is too loud for home use. Sounds great with a Precision for rock sounds - dunno how people wanting a more hi-fi sound would find it, but then I doubt they`d be looking at Marshall products anyway.

Bring back TFI Friday, but have more music, and less guests.

Agree about the sound on Jools. Only one I`ve seen recently was Beady Eye, and Liam Gallaghers vocals were barely audible. Maybe that was his choice, but I doubt it.

Thats great to know, thanks - sounds like this may be an option I`m going to have to consider - Ampeg, but portable Ampeg.

When you say perfect for gigs, what type of gigs?

Are they pub/club type gigs, as stand-alone, or are they going through FOH pa?

And, what type of band?

Sorry to ask so many questions, but I loved the sound of my little cab, and if two of these and the head is enough for a rock band with 2 gtrs, in pub gigs, I may start looking at these again.