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    Covers bands - are they just parasites? (& how PRS works)

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    Posted · Edited by cetera

    10 minutes ago, asingardenof said:

    This is something I've always wondered as well, how PRS shares out the fees that venues collect. PRS seems to suggest that it's done on self-reporting by venues or artists, including for cover bands, but this seems to be placing an awful lot on trust.
     

    How else are they supposed to do it? If noone provides the information how can anyone be paid? It's called the 'music business'. If you're a songwriter you need to take care of your 'business'. You can't leave it to someone else.....

    Covers bands - are they just parasites? (& how PRS works)

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    Plenty of disinformation on this thread so to put a few things straight:

     

    Venues are licensed by PRS/PPL, not the hirer.

     

    The 'main' business of the venue is what they are licensed for. A pub may have a jukebox, the radio and/or occasional live bands but if they do not have 'regular' ticketed events then they will just have a 'general' licence. If you regularly play at one of these establishments then you will need to apply for the 'Gigs & Clubs Scheme' at PRS. If you write your own material then you will see a small payment every so often for your trouble. If you play covers then you will reward the original songwriters, as you should...

    There is also a similar scheme for buskers on the Underground.

    https://www.prsformusic.com/royalties/live-performance-royalties#:~:text=If members play at a,is performed at the event.

     

    If the main business of a venue is ticketed events i.e. concert venue, arts centre, theatre, etc then approx 4% of box office is payable to PRS from the gross. This money is then paid out to the songwriters/publishers of the music performed after a small deduction for processing (under 10% - the lowest deduction of ANY worldwide Rights society). This 4% is SUPPOSED to be raised/paid by the venue (5p on a pint etc) and NOT charged to the band..... however, it often is added to band deductions which defeats the object if you write your own material. However, contrary to what some ignorant people think, PRS is NOT the music police and doesn't have any power to enforce the way a venue raises it's payable PRS licence fee.

    Also, because ticketed venues are often rubbish at asking for setlists from artists and supplying them on to PRS it is always recommended that for those performances a writer use the online PRS live set list hub to upload their set info.

     

    https://www.prsformusic.com/royalties/report-live-performances

    You're welcome...

     

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    Is 4 strings really enough? (Oooo i went there)

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    6 minutes ago, greavesbass said:

    Nobody cares what I think but hey this is a forum and I like it here, so.......There is absolutely no point in the OP's question. People do what they do and that's fine. But I will say this. I detect an insidious tone whenever this subject is brought up, in that if you play a five then you are somehow musicaly superior and cleverer than those of us who don't, and to those greats in the past who didn't. Beyond ridiculous and in a peculiar way brings this forum into disrepute... 

    🍿🍿;)🤣

    Gibson Gene Simmons EBO

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    15 minutes ago, hiram.k.hackenbacker said:

    I wonder if they actually believe their own hype?

     

    “Calling Dr. Love - Your New Bass Has Arrived

    Gibson Custom Shop is the pinnacle of craftsmanship, quality, and sound excellence. Each instrument celebrates Gibson's legacy through accuracy, authenticity, and attention to detail.”

    I hope not. The original pickguard on Gene's 77 bass was shaped a little differently and there was more space between the controls.... ;)🤣

    Attention to detail 7/10 🙄

     

     

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    Gibson Gene Simmons EBO

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    14 hours ago, AndyTravis said:

    Makes me chuckle that GS has had so many signature basses when he barely played on most of the famous Kiss stuff.

     

    And there’s that painful video where Carole Kaye is trying to teach him bass.

     

    More of the same old nonsense. Gene actually played on probably 75 - 80% of all KISS output so that statement is incorrect. His reasons for not appearing on the rest were reasonable enough (away filming/song by bandmember who had written/demoed a suitable bassline already etc)

    Also, the Carol Kaye thing is a set up. He knows very well how to play bass and was appearing dumb for the publicity. If you haven't realised by now that Gene gets off on all the haters talking about him then you're missing the point.... see, you're all doing it again now ;)


    As to this Gibson bass. I love the look and it's a cool reissue of his customised EBO from late 76/early 77. Price point is silly but the investors will buy them up and they'll disappear quick enough. I'm looking forward to seeing a circa £500 Epiphone version or maybe a circa £1500 Gibson standard model.

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    When did you realise….. you weren’t going to “make it”?

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    Posted · Edited by cetera

    I was in a 'signed' band (European and Japanese distribution) that did a few cool shows but saw zero money and always had some 'Manager' or 'A&R' man making rubbish decisions. How do you pay the bills?

    I'd been running/playing in a KISS tribute as well at the same time that was a good regular payer, to decent audiences that sang every word and also involved well paid overseas gigs and tours so I chose that. Enjoyed the 'perks' for 25 years, including picking up endorsements with my two fave bass gear companies, until I realised the band was looking stale and my back was suffering. Moved over to the theatre circuit with a rock covers show and get my kicks there now. Get paid and in bed by midnight. 

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    ** The 15th South East Bass Bash - Sunday 12 November 2023 **

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    1. @cetera - Charvel 3B, ESP Surveyor '87, Fender FSR PJ Precision, Hamer Impact, Italia Imola, Spector NS2, Spector Euro, Spector EuroX (Spectorbird), Spector Pulse II, Spector Dimension 4HP, Gallien Krueger 400RB & Legacy800 heads, GenzBenz Neox 2x12 cab

    2. @TheGreek - All short scale this year - a @Jabba_the_gut scale 5er, Mini Ray, Short scale P bass

    3. @Harlequin74 - Zoot Performer, Status Shark, Spector QV4 , Markbass TTE501 and Matching CAB. Maybe the Lehle Basswitch…

    4. @Frank Blank - @Jabba_the_gut short scale fretted and fretless, JMJ Mustang, QSC K12.2, Grace Design Alix

    5. @TrevorR - Mk 1 Wal, Wal Pro IIE, Aria SB700, Frankenjazz, pedals and MarkBass LMII & Traveler 2x10

    6. @bnt - travelling light, probably a couple of pedals such as T-Rex Diva Drive, Orange KongPressor

    7. @bass_dinger - 1999 Washburn XB500, 1994 Washburn XB500, Washburn XB925 in zebrawood, Washburn XB925 in bits, Boulder Creek 5 string (likely to be for sale), SWR Workingmans 12.

    8. @greentext- 2008 Spector NS4-H2, 2015 Sandberg VS4, 2000 Trace Elliot T-Bass, my pedalboard and my tin of picks 😈

    9. @prowla - Probably a couple of Rickenbackers and some interesting oddities. Amp-wise a Markbass EVO and a 1x12 (last year I bought some others to try and never switched them on, as the EVO sounded spot-on).

    10. @SuperSeagull - Status S2, Feline P Bass, Modded Fender Lyte, Flea Jazz, MB Combo

    11. @Merton - various short and medium scale ACGs, Zoots and Conway basses, Barefaced cabs, modern Trace Elliot amps

    12. @MacDaddy - Shuker (probably no3), Snapdragon Folding Bass, possibly a Rob Allen Mouse.

    13. @neilp - matching pair of fretted and fretless 1980 Aria SB1000s, possibly my fretless Wal mk1, Ashdown ABM500/Ampeg 4x10, Tech 21 Bass Fly Rig

    14. @NickD - Strunal Schonbach 5 String DB, and whatever else I can shoehorn in the car around it... hopefully a MD CMD121 H, Zoom B6, and maybe a Maruszczyk Jake and a Shuker Series 2.

    15. @WalMan - converted Wal Pro, Zon Legacy Elite, Status S2, G&L L2500 fretless, McMillen 12Step & DSI MoPho, Two Notes Bass Revolt, Trondheim Audio SkarBassOne, BackBeat2 (and my BackBeat1 will probably be available for sale). 16. Darkglass Microtubes500 and one of the Barefaced cabs. All depends how late I leave and what will fit in the new car 🚙 😁

    16. @Smanth - With my small, light, battery powered gear (mostly) ... IBBY-Ibanez GSRM25 5 str sub short scale, 'ELIMA - Kala California 5 str fretless ubass, QUINN- HB 5 Str Fretless, MOD Dwarf based pedalboard, Boss Dual Cube Bass LX. (Also some toys to sell)

    17. @Jean-Luc Pickguard - NS Design CR5M, Squier Bass VI, Roland MicroCube Bass RX and some pedals.

    18. @tauzero - the basses that @TheGreek made me buy (handmade 6-string headless, Pedulla 6 fretless), Roland GR-55, one or two Seis, anything else that occurs to me, Mrs Zero (probably)

    19. @Stingray5 - EBMM Stingray 5, a trio of Tunes i.e. TWB-6, TWB-4z, SWV4-BB, Boss GT-6B, Eden EC180 combo.

    20. @rumblefish - Reverend Rumblefish,GB basses,Mesa Walkabout amp,Vanderkley 112 MNT.

    21. @Paul S - might be space for a shorty?  If not never mind.  I have nothing of interest   

    22. @bassace97 - Musicman stingry basses, Fender Mustang bass, Pedalboard and my Mesa TT800  + SL112 cabs

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