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Anyone know much about these basses? How much should they cost S/H?

I'm not 100% sure about the model name, so I'll provide a link to a few pictures I've found (it won't let me tag them into the thread :S):

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Also, is the finish on the headstock wearing or is it just the strings I can see fraying?

Very much appreciated :)

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I think they are the same as American Tobias but assembled in Asia somewhere and are quite respectable - The necks on American ones are superb (they have an assymetrical profile) but i think these ones ( called a Toby to indicate non USA )
dont have the mega pickups (Bartolini possibly????)of the stateside ones but should have the nice neck.
S/H £200-250 would be reasonable.


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[quote name='BarnacleBob' post='510234' date='Jun 10 2009, 02:57 PM']I think they are the same as American Tobias but assembled in Asia somewhere and are quite respectable - The necks on American ones are superb (they have an assymetrical profile) but i think these ones ( called a Toby to indicate non USA )
dont have the mega pickups (Bartolini possibly????)of the stateside ones but should have the nice neck.
S/H £200-250 would be reasonable.


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So they should have the same neck as the Americans, but not the p'ups? The specs say 'bartolini designed' pickups, are they the same thing? Says it has a bartolini pre-amp too
Also, is the scale 34' or 35' as I've seen both scales quoted. Is it a jazz-thin neck?

Thanks

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I had one of them. Toby Deluxe I think it is, available from Musicyo back in the day, and Sound Control I think it was in the UK, whatever the name of that one that went out of business was. I think the Pro's are probably worth 200-250, with that probably 150 or so, musicyo blew them out really cheap when they closed the european warehouse, and Sound Control got rid of the pro's for something like £170 new at the end. Made in Korea I think, maybe by Cort?

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[quote name='thedontcarebear' post='510260' date='Jun 10 2009, 03:25 PM']I had one of them. Toby Deluxe I think it is, available from Musicyo back in the day, and Sound Control I think it was in the UK, whatever the name of that one that went out of business was. I think the Pro's are probably worth 200-250, with that probably 150 or so, musicyo blew them out really cheap when they closed the european warehouse, and Sound Control got rid of the pro's for something like £170 new at the end. Made in Korea I think, maybe by Cort?[/quote]

Ah, so it's overpriced then at £200? Thanks for the heads up

Is this the pro you are talking about, or is this a new model?:

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Snooping round t'intenet the pick-ups are likely to be mighty mite DX5s normally found on Ibanez basses and some people feel they dont have enough power out of them,
If it is a lefty ur after, there is an American one on ebay at the moment but obviously not in the same price range £500- but no-one has bid on it with less than a day to go so if it fails to sell contact the seller and try to make a deal if ur budget allows.
The US built ones are definitely worth it


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[quote name='Lew-Bass' post='510265' date='Jun 10 2009, 03:31 PM']Ah, so it's overpriced then at £200? Thanks for the heads up

Is this the pro you are talking about, or is this a new model?:

[url="http://i9.ebayimg.com/03/i/001/2b/d7/423e_1.JPG"]http://i9.ebayimg.com/03/i/001/2b/d7/423e_1.JPG[/url]

[url="http://i7.ebayimg.com/05/i/001/2b/d7/596b_0.JPG"]http://i7.ebayimg.com/05/i/001/2b/d7/596b_0.JPG[/url]

[url="http://i6.ebayimg.com/07/i/001/2b/d8/055d_0.JPG"]http://i6.ebayimg.com/07/i/001/2b/d8/055d_0.JPG[/url][/quote]

Yeah, that looks like a pro.

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[quote name='BarnacleBob' post='510272' date='Jun 10 2009, 03:35 PM']Snooping round t'intenet the pick-ups are likely to be mighty mite DX5s normally found on Ibanez basses and some people feel they dont have enough power out of them,
If it is a lefty ur after, there is an American one on ebay at the moment but obviously not in the same price range £500- but no-one has bid on it with less than a day to go so if it fails to sell [b]contact the seller and try to make a deal[/b] if ur budget allows.
The US built ones are definitely worth it


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Already done that mate :), and yeah it is a lefty I'm after. It's either this, an SR500L or another bass of similar ilk S/H (and under £500). Is the SR500L better?

Also, as thedontcarebear mentioned before, the 'pro' models as the American one seems to be were being sold for less than half the price, is it worth roughly the price its up for?

Thanks you guys

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I believe 200/250 to be an ok price - MusicYo and Sound Control both went t*ts up over the same period and a lot of good stuff was being sold at really really low prices for clearance and administration purposes.
If the first Toby bass in your thread is neck thru then it is definitely worth it.
The other one may not be an USA model after all as he says it has an upgrade to EMGs but from what ? All USA made Tobias had Bartolinis.
The current bible lists Korean Tobys in excellent condition as worth $500 - 650.

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[quote name='BarnacleBob' post='510315' date='Jun 10 2009, 04:09 PM']I believe 200/250 to be an ok price - MusicYo and Sound Control both went t*ts up over the same period and a lot of good stuff was being sold at really really low prices for clearance and administration purposes.
If the first Toby bass in your thread is neck thru then it is definitely worth it.
The other one may not be an USA model after all as he says it has an upgrade to EMGs but from what ? All USA made Tobias had Bartolinis.
The current bible lists Korean Tobys in excellent condition as worth $500 - 650.

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It's bolt-on mate

Which do you think is better value? And how much do you actually think the other one is worth?

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[quote name='Lew-Bass' post='510302' date='Jun 10 2009, 03:56 PM']Already done that mate :), and yeah it is a lefty I'm after. It's either this, an SR500L or another bass of similar ilk S/H (and under £500). Is the SR500L better?

Also, as thedontcarebear mentioned before, the 'pro' models as the American one seems to be were being sold for less than half the price, is it worth roughly the price its up for?

Thanks you guys[/quote]

The Toby Pro isn't American if that's what you mean? They are Korean too, the Americans are called Tobias, then whatever model, not Toby.

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[quote name='thedontcarebear' post='510403' date='Jun 10 2009, 05:14 PM']The Toby Pro isn't American if that's what you mean? They are Korean too, the Americans are called Tobias, then whatever model, not Toby.[/quote]

Ah, the second one isn't called Toby, just the Tobias logo on the headstock. So it must be American

Thanks for clearing that up :)

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1st one is a toby deluxe, (jazz type pickups, bolt on neck) i've seen them go for as little as £150 or as much as £250

the 2nd is the Toby pro (soapbar pups - neck thru)

i've had 2 toby pro's, i sold one for £340 on ebay. some go for more, depends on condition and finish

also depends which run it comes from, they're all good and great value or money but the earlier ones are better build quality in my experience

neither the deluxe or pro have the asym neck found on american tobias' or the bartolini pups/electrics

i've heard that the toby pro custom has the asym neck... can't confirm that cuz i've never owned one.

they're confusing basses to be sure, trying to find info on them is not exactly easy!

try finding the acoustic pro, i've been looking for one for ages!

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