Boss GT 1000 / Core & GX100 / 10 Users - Patches and Ideas

[Al Krow]

13 hours ago, MrDinsdale said:

Parameter assigns are great wish more multifx's had similar functionality. Being able to tie parameters to input level or to waveforms is very cool, especially when you want to do something a little out of the ordinary. 

 

Agreed! Which multi-fx have you come across that don't allow parameter assigns?

[MrDinsdale]

18 hours ago, Al Krow said:

 

Agreed! Which multi-fx have you come across that don't allow parameter assigns?

The only one I’ve found that let you do stuff like binding parameters to input levels or oscillating waves was the MOD Dwarf. The Dwarf was way deeper in what it allowed but with a significantly steeper learning curve.

 

The Dwarf also allowed you to do crazy stuff with its CV system allowing to set random value generators and stuff like that.

[Al Krow]

2 hours ago, MrDinsdale said:

The only one I’ve found that let you do stuff like binding parameters to input levels or oscillating waves was the MOD Dwarf. The Dwarf was way deeper in what it allowed but with a significantly steeper learning curve.

 

The Dwarf also allowed you to do crazy stuff with its CV system allowing to set random value generators and stuff like that.

 

Ah interesting. For some reason I thought Helix allowed parameter assigns? Do you know if that is the case, if not be very easy to check with @BigRedX who is a bit of a Helix expert?

[MrDinsdale]

2 hours ago, Al Krow said:

 

Ah interesting. For some reason I thought Helix allowed parameter assigns? Do you know if that is the case, if not be very easy to check with @BigRedX who is a bit of a Helix expert?

A lot of multifx I’ve tried support some form of parameter assignment to midi and physical switches/expression pedals however I’ve not seen any others (or at least worked out how to do it) that allowed parameters to be assigned to input/output levels or oscillators etc.

[Al Krow]

1 hour ago, MrDinsdale said:

A lot of multifx I’ve tried support some form of parameter assignment to midi and physical switches/expression pedals however I’ve not seen any others (or at least worked out how to do it) that allowed parameters to be assigned to input/output levels or oscillators etc.

 

In the case of our Boss multis it's just the former though, right? Ie assigning parameters to the knobs and expression pedal? 

[MrDinsdale]

3 hours ago, Al Krow said:

 

In the case of our Boss multis it's just the former though, right? Ie assigning parameters to the knobs and expression pedal? 

Ahhh I assumed the GX would be the same as the GT which gives quite a few options for assigns. 

[MichaelDean]

5 hours ago, Al Krow said:

 

In the case of our Boss multis it's just the former though, right? Ie assigning parameters to the knobs and expression pedal? 

No, you can do all of the input gain and waveform stuff too!

 

Start at page 73 of the manual. 

 

Edited 18 hours ago by MichaelDean
Added the manual

[Al Krow]

53 minutes ago, MichaelDean said:

No, you can do all of the input gain and waveform stuff too!

 

Start at page 73 of the manual. 

 

Ok thanks! This thing is ridiculously cool! 

 

Is that a step up from Helix @BigRedX, or pretty much the same on there?

[MrDinsdale]

Here’s a good example for configuring a far more effective side chained noise gate via assigns. It allows far tighter control of threshold based on input levels:

 

 

The QC has something very similar with sidechained compressors and gates however there’s something nice about having this level of control.

 

if you’re creative, you can get some very cool effects out of it by utilising some of these assigns.

[MrDinsdale]

I can’t find any videos on it but one cool effect was using the Slicer effect but using an assign with the Internal Pedal set to a sine wave to control the “Pattern” parameter which results in a random sounding glitchy stutter. Great for building lofi patches.

 

There’s some great examples of the kind of weird effects you can create here:

 

 

[BigRedX]

23 hours ago, Al Krow said:

Ah interesting. For some reason I thought Helix allowed parameter assigns? Do you know if that is the case, if not be very easy to check with @BigRedX who is a bit of a Helix expert?

 

21 hours ago, MrDinsdale said:

A lot of multifx I’ve tried support some form of parameter assignment to midi and physical switches/expression pedals however I’ve not seen any others (or at least worked out how to do it) that allowed parameters to be assigned to input/output levels or oscillators etc.

 

The Helix will allow the control of each parameter in a Preset to be attached to one of three expression pedals, or one of 11 footswitches, or any MIDI CC between 4 and 127. It also allows the value of parameters to change with each Snapshot in the Preset, which is how Line6 do glitch-less sound changes. And it is possible to control parameter values using the volume and tone controls of a Line6 Variax guitar. 

 

It won't allow parameter control to be based on the sound of the instrument which I think is what @MrDinsdale is saying. For me this wouldn't be of much use because I don't play in any sort of controlled way and having the sound change due to how hard or soft I'm playing would be a complete non-starter. I'm sure it sounds great on the factory sounds that use it, but I wouldn't be able to play accurately enough to control it.

 

What would be useful to me would be if the triggering of the noise gate and filters could be controlled by MIDI note information instead of the incoming audio signal. Can you do this with the GT1000? The other thing I would find useful would be the ability to have time-based effects synchronised to MIDI clock for periods longer than 1 bar, particularly phasers and flangers

[MrDinsdale]

1 hour ago, BigRedX said:

 

 

The Helix will allow the control of each parameter in a Preset to be attached to one of three expression pedals, or one of 11 footswitches, or any MIDI CC between 4 and 127. It also allows the value of parameters to change with each Snapshot in the Preset, which is how Line6 do glitch-less sound changes. And it is possible to control parameter values using the volume and tone controls of a Line6 Variax guitar. 

 

It won't allow parameter control to be based on the sound of the instrument which I think is what @MrDinsdale is saying. For me this wouldn't be of much use because I don't play in any sort of controlled way and having the sound change due to how hard or soft I'm playing would be a complete non-starter. I'm sure it sounds great on the factory sounds that use it, but I wouldn't be able to play accurately enough to control it.

 

What would be useful to me would be if the triggering of the noise gate and filters could be controlled by MIDI note information instead of the incoming audio signal. Can you do this with the GT1000? The other thing I would find useful would be the ability to have time-based effects synchronised to MIDI clock for periods longer than 1 bar, particularly phasers and flangers

Yeah the input levels are more use for side chaining so like the noise gate example you can adjust the threshold relative to the device input rather than the noise gate block input level. Super handy for higher gain patches.

 

It’s really fun for modulation though so when you dig in hard you can have parameters react differently. I set up some fun tape delays where digging in harder past a certain level would give more Wow and flutter etc the harder you played so the effects are a little more dynamic.