Juzgoez Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 Thought I'd save myself the hassle of searching anymore and ask if anyone is using Marshall MB4210 combo and gather some tips for using this amp either on its own or with a cab etc bla blah blah....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozz196 Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 I did have one. Lovely warm valvey tone from the gain channel. I used to use it with the MB115 cab at gigs, but at practices just on its own. To be honest, it didn`t need the 115 for the gigs I did (punk gigs, in pubs with 100+ capacity), but I bought the pair of them together, so best to use them both, and the 115 did add some depth and size to the sound. Some people on here have had reliability issues with the MB range but so far I`ve had: MB4210 combo MB450H head MB115 cab MB410 cab MB15 prac combo (still got this) And not a problem with any of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juzgoez Posted March 16, 2011 Author Share Posted March 16, 2011 (edited) [quote name='Lozz196' post='1164996' date='Mar 16 2011, 09:04 PM']I did have one. Lovely warm valvey tone from the gain channel. I used to use it with the MB115 cab at gigs, but at practices just on its own. To be honest, it didn`t need the 115 for the gigs I did (punk gigs, in pubs with 100+ capacity), but I bought the pair of them together, so best to use them both, and the 115 did add some depth and size to the sound. Some people on here have had reliability issues with the MB range but so far I`ve had: MB4210 combo MB450H head MB115 cab MB410 cab MB15 prac combo (still got this) And not a problem with any of them.[/quote] Nice one. I've got a MB4210 coming tomoz What about best position, height off the ground on it's own? Do think maybe Marshall have cleaned their act up with the unreliability issues and are keeping the price low to attract new buyers? Edited March 16, 2011 by Jobo Pooks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozz196 Posted March 16, 2011 Share Posted March 16, 2011 When I used mine on its own, I used to just put it on the floor, until I started using an aluminium case for my leads etc. I then just used to put the amp on top of that. Re the reliability thing, a friend of a friend is an engineer at Marshall, and he said that when the first batch of these came through, they literally had to redo them all, as the quality control wasn`t good on them. However, saying that, I bought my 4210 in 2007, and it was fine, so the poor items must have been previous to this. I sold mine to a mate, he`s still got it, and never had any problems either, and uses it every week. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juzgoez Posted March 17, 2011 Author Share Posted March 17, 2011 [quote name='Lozz196' post='1165062' date='Mar 16 2011, 10:07 PM']When I used mine on its own, I used to just put it on the floor, until I started using an aluminium case for my leads etc. I then just used to put the amp on top of that. Re the reliability thing, a friend of a friend is an engineer at Marshall, and he said that when the first batch of these came through, they literally had to redo them all, as the quality control wasn`t good on them. However, saying that, I bought my 4210 in 2007, and it was fine, so the poor items must have been previous to this. I sold mine to a mate, he`s still got it, and never had any problems either, and uses it every week.[/quote] Picked mine up this morning and just had a little run through with it. Not as chest thumping as I'd expected so adding a cab seems to be the answer, as has already been mentioned. can't grumble though at £339 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lozz196 Posted March 17, 2011 Share Posted March 17, 2011 It`s a fairly slim cab, so that can account for this. I always used the Classic channel, with gain, bass, mid, treb all on 5, Classic channel volume on full, and used the Master volume as the overall volume control. For a 2x10 it certainly had some poke with these settings. I played in a punk band and a heavy rock band with it, and as stated, whilst the addition of a cab gave more depth, volume wise it wasn`t needed. Didn`t like the Modern channel though. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GT40Graham Posted March 18, 2011 Share Posted March 18, 2011 I'm currently using the MB4410 with the MBC115 extension cab. Prior to the MB4410 I was using the MB4210 and it definitely needs the extension cab. If you don't get the cab at least stand it on something as it's impossible to see the controls without getting on your hands and knees. I had a major reliability problem with the MB4210 but to be fair, Marshall then upgraded me (FOC) to the MB4410. I'm with Lozz on using the Classic channel but you can also get some nice tones blending the 2 channels. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juzgoez Posted March 18, 2011 Author Share Posted March 18, 2011 [quote name='GT40Graham' post='1166621' date='Mar 18 2011, 07:34 AM']I'm currently using the MB4410 with the MBC115 extension cab. Prior to the MB4410 I was using the MB4210 and it definitely needs the extension cab. If you don't get the cab at least stand it on something as it's impossible to see the controls without getting on your hands and knees. I had a major reliability problem with the MB4210 but to be fair, Marshall then upgraded me (FOC) to the MB4410. I'm with Lozz on using the Classic channel but you can also get some nice tones blending the 2 channels.[/quote] Yeh, did notice that about the controls being a bit out of sight. I'll make a dummy cab for now out of washing up bottles and sticky backed plastic....I didn't get my Blue Peter Badge for nothing you know..... Thanks for the replies, guys... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juzgoez Posted March 20, 2011 Author Share Posted March 20, 2011 (edited) I have noticed that the cooling fan is a bit noisy; especially for a small axial. Is this common? I'm not talking about screeching noisy, but an annoying whirring when the amp is just sitting. I've seen much bigger fans of this type that are virtually silent....Ie: in bottle fridges etc Edited March 20, 2011 by Jobo Pooks Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GT40Graham Posted March 20, 2011 Share Posted March 20, 2011 [quote name='Jobo Pooks' post='1169285' date='Mar 20 2011, 10:48 AM']I have noticed that the cooling fan is a bit noisy; especially for a small axial. Is this common? I'm not talking about screeching noisy, but an annoying whirring when the amp is just sitting. I've seen much bigger fans of this type that are virtually silent....Ie: in bottle fridges etc[/quote] It could be just yours. On both mine, the fan is audible but not intrusive, it makes about the same noise as your average PC fan. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juzgoez Posted March 21, 2011 Author Share Posted March 21, 2011 Well, my MB4210 has given up the ghost. Only used it a coupla times in the studio. Turned it on tonight and nothing at all. Mains lead is ok and supplying juice so it's back to the shop tomorrow morning. Just my bloody luck....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Juzgoez Posted March 22, 2011 Author Share Posted March 22, 2011 Just ordered a Hartke vx3500. Let's see how that goes....Another week to wait....jeez! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PaulWarning Posted March 22, 2011 Share Posted March 22, 2011 I've been using one of these for about 18 months, I did have fault problems to start with, Marshall sent me a new one, but since then it's been fine, I use it with a 1 x 15 extention cab, (not a Marshall) which gives it a lot more bottom end grunt, and I think I must be in a minority of one cause I use the modern channel but I do use a zoom 506II to add a touch of distortion, really happy with it, get the sound I want with loads of head room Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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