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[quote]pointy head stock ? yes pointy body with unnescessay unergonomic siticky outy bits to make it look all tough and grumpy? yes very black? yes Its a metal bass, the pups and pre anre irrelevant, it is designed to look 'metal', its aesthetic design is dictated too by the preconceptions of what is 'metal'. Can you use it to play other music? yes, of course. Will you look like a tw@t? almost certainly.....[/quote] Check the OP - he didn't ask about the looks... d'oh! I didn't think the tw@t comment was necessary.

I could hug you Doddy! I seem to remember Jefferson Starship being fond of BCRs; the guy from Flock of Seagulls played an Eagle; Rob Palmer had a whole stash of BCRs... all terribly metal, I tell you! That answer was spot on - and came nicely after my little rant. I'll apologise for that.

My BCR Eagle - light, fun, and sounds great!

[b]No!!![/b] Oh my lord no! This is an absolute misconception - and is oft-perpetuated by those who've never played them, or won't look beyond the shape. The Warlock review, linked above, comments on Split-P instruments - and, as you'd expect, they do provide some punch which works well in metal. But to say they're simply metal would be to condemn every instrument with the same set-up, which doesn't wash. As the first reviewer notes, they're "synonymous" with metal - which, I suspect, comes a lot down to the look of the more recent models. "Synonymous", fine - they've got a rich heritage of serving the heavier side of rock. Just for metal? No, not on your nelly. Was Rob Palmer metal? I haven't played the Vertex Warlock, so you'll have go elsewhere for a review - and not the above Harmony Central link, as that appears to be a general review of the older Warlocks as opposed to this model. There are differences, most noticeably in the pick-ups - and the gaping Class Axe/Hanser quality divide. The closest you might get on HC is the Paolo signature bass, which is a contemporary and notes the tonal warmth of a similar pick-up arrangement - which has been my experience of the brand to date. The quality has picked up a lot since Hanser took over, but the real top-end gears is either US vintage or custom shop - and bcrichplayers.com should help you with either, if you decide to delve a little further. The Vertex is certainly an aggressive looking bass, which will work aesthetically for some - but there's a whole back catalogue of service in pop, reggae, jazz... you name it, and some good old instruments out there if the current ones don't work for you. Did anyone see Shockwave's Eagle as an example? I've played BCRs for years, both before and after my accident, and they're an old friend. It's just a shame to see them so often poorly regarded.

One final question for me - did you spray the neck, or just the body? I think I'm pretty comfortable with the body, but the neck seems problematic in parts.

If you need anything else chief, just shout - I've got tons of stuff, so much I don't think I've looked at half of it.

Thanks for the swift response. I'm after a seriously glossy look with this one, so I suspect I'll be putting a significant amount of coats on, so it's good to get your take. Out7hined has been very helpful also, passing some advice on after his stunning Encore Coaster. I'm impressed that all of this has been done with paint from a hardware store. I might have to go and investigate further. I had been looking at some of the items from Manchester Guitar Tech, but was considering something a little more... different!

Sil, did you use a clear lacquer at all? Or is it simply paint then polish? I'm very curious, being mid-process in restoring an item. Some people appear to not use clear lacquer, whilst I was moments away from ordering a load. Would be interested to hear how it worked without. Looks very good from the shots!

I've had to admit that slap and tap will never be for me, as per the above. They have uses, I just simply haven't found them yet - which is probably natural when your bass playing involves noodling about at home and the odd jam/gig with mates. If we do Basschat meet oop North I'll pop along to allow someone to cure me of my ills, in this respect.

Rule no.2 - it is safe to ignore comments on Youtube. Using a pick gets some serious hate on there, from a rather ignorant part of their community. Using a pick is useful in giving you a different sound, and is definitely another string to your bow as a player.

I have it for Guitar Pro - which I've exported to .PDF. If you PM me your e-mail address I'll send it over. No guarantees it's any better or worse than what you've got already, but it does look like a nice line.

I remember when I first nailed the line from Sugar Hill Gang (you know the one!) - I can't remember how many times I played it that day! The sound of success! Glad you're this stoked, mate - definitely the right mind

How about not needing a guitarist? Death From Above 1979, anyone?

BC Rich normally get a hard time. Class Axe did them no favours, and some of the stigma has stuck - especially given the aesthetics of it all, and the prevalence of the entry-ranges. You do find some amazing examples in the States, but we're a little more austere on this side of the water. Coincidentally, Paulo also plays a long-horn NT Mock - a very nice bit of kit! His Eagle five is also cool, but I've got myself the perfect Eagle for me already. I'm not really fazed by the use of a bolt-on neck. NT would be ideal, but you'd pay for it - and none of my NJ bolt-ons have disappointed. Sure, I doubt it's going to match the custom, but the price tag doesn't either. Long shot finding someone whose played one I suspect!

On the basis that you can never have enough pointy basses, I've been umm'ing and ah'ing over my next BC Rich purchase. Given the lack of any nice vintage models this side of the Atlantic, I've been tempted into a nice custom shop model for my 30th... but that's 2yrs+ away! So, living in the now, I have GAS. I'd love a five, so I think we're onto the Paulo Gregoletto signature 5-string Warlock. It probably helps that I have time for Trivium. However, this thing isn't exactly common on the ground in the UK. Long shot, but has anyone managed to have a go on one? It's £400, so I wouldn't cry if I clicked 'buy' and hated it - but it would be good to hear some opinions.

The 51' reissue is pure sex. I want, but where would I hide it from the wife?!

Shockwave had either an NT or NJ Warlock 5 - would be worth messaging him for an opinion!

I've managed to kick the wife out for the weekend, armed with one of my old credit cards and my mother for company - it's a risk; they're expensive creatures; but it buys me some quiet time. Quiet time to get some work done, at any rate. I've been tinkering with a bargain BCR ST Bass I picked up from Ebay. Some of you have been kind enough to lend advice when I've asked, and we're stripped, wired and almost ready to go... but I still have to paint the back of the neck! I'd thought this would be relatively easy, through the haze of naivety - now I'm not sure. My big question is: should I remove the fretboard for painting? I'm a little too novice to do such, with any real hope of reattachment, so it would need to go somewhere. But, I had thought I'd just be able to mask the fret board then paint the back - before finally applying clear laquer to the rear of the neck and the side of the fretboard, leaving the body of the board untouched. We've still a few days before I get into this, but any help or tips would be more than welcome.

+1 for the low-end! I think I'd be totally unworthy of anything too nice - what would I do with it? Play it in the pub?

I play with two, but have been trying desperately to play with three. I have tended to tape the fourth and third fingers together. It's the knuckle of the pinky I'm missing, so the tape help stops if flap. Probably not everybody's cup of tea mind! Works for me, but I had to escape a car crash to make it work

T-Cut is the way, as far as polishes go. It's designed for cars, where you get all kinds of scratches, and it's abrasive nature just cuts through them all. I use it, and it works a treat

It's not my style of music, but I have a lot of time for Jamserson - he knew how to put a line together. I've picked up the odd bit.

Paypal will be of no use, as their Dispute option only runs to 45 days - that said, if you made the payment from a credit card (via Paypal) then you may still have some options. I just don't understand, despite all the problems, why this guy is acting like this - it's real head-in-the-sand behaviour.

[quote]Just for the E usually. They work brilliantly.[/quote] That's probably for the best. I don't think I'd have a headstock with the relevant room!