funkle

This looks great. Cant wait to hear how it sounds!!

12 minutes ago, Baloney Balderdash said:

Seems highly illogical to me to get rid of an otherwise awesome bass because of unsatisfactory electronics.

 

It's like selling a car because you don't like the tires that is on it (yes, I know nothing about cars).

 

If you can't get the current preamp to work for you turn the bass passive and see how that works or get a different preamp. 

 

 

I’m sure this preamp is long gone by now, it’s an old thread. But I agree. If it isn’t good stock, a preamp won’t alter it. 
 

@NickA I spent a while fiddling with where I want the treble tone to come from, it’s a cool option to have. As it turns out, though I preferred the treble signal coming from the neck before, now I seem to like it coming equally from both pickups. 
 

I must admit some frustration today with the bass, though. I am finding it hard to reproduce some of the sounds I was getting last night. It is quite finicky to adjust.
 

The thought of trying to do this on a gig is a bit of a problem. I did a jazz jam this week where I literally was told the song about 30 seconds before we played it, then the key about 15 seconds after that (!!). Knob tweaking time was really minimal. This is too finicky for that…I’ll keep practicing with it. 

I’m returning to this thread as I’ve reinstalled the ACG EQ-01 in my very first ‘Wal-ish’ tester bass, which is now a maple necked ‘Walcision’ with my original Turner MC4 SPSC pickups. These are switchable between parallel/single coil/series. 
 

What an amazing system. I could run every sound I need out of the rear pickup of the bass only; it’s nuts to be able to crank huge lows out of it and then add the treble/upper mids back in from the treble stack. Bridge pickups conventionally cannot do this. And then I can set the neck pickup to be a different sound as well and then just use the blend knob to swap sounds. 
 

The treble stack is hugely underrated in reviews I’ve read. It is very useful to me. Using it with the other stacks, can truly mimic a bunch of different basses. I had very convincing Stingray and G&L sounds tonight, and can do a Jazz as well (when I swap the pickups to ‘single coil’ mode). Precision sounds are straightforward as well, very little knob tweaking for that. 
 

I do wonder if the original instructions could have benefited from frequency response curves. Poor Alan has spent his life explaining how filter EQs work, and the instructions are very detailed, but I wonder if some pics showing EQ curves altering with knob positions and perhaps some specs showing the frequency ranges affected by each knob would have been useful. At least I think in retrospect. 

Nice. I made one of these myself a while back. 

lol. I did own 3 at one point…you got the blue one, and the other went to Europe. Sigh…

Ooft. If I didn’t already own one… beautiful

Cool looking bass. Can't wait to hear it!

Sweet. 
 

What’s a Wild Bill Precision pickup? I had a look at the Dimarzio website but couldn’t figure it. 

Very cool. Is it a Jazz or Preicsion neck? And weight?

Thanks. 
 

Pete

I haven’t seen any Stingray pickups or cavities with a slope/angle, and I’ve owned a few Stingrays…

Maybe he is…but if so, he has no website, no FB presence, and no order book that I know of…

Not sure where this goes without making it spammy....but I thought other Celinder fans might enjoy my latest creation. I decided that not enough people seem to remember Christian's work, so I thought I'd do something about it. 

Happy to move this elsewhere if it's the wrong forum!!

I forgot to say. This might end up being useful to others trying to power the Stomp portably.
 

It turned out the USB-C port on the back of the cab didn’t kick out enough current to power my Stomp. So I went hunting for a cheap solution. 

End up with a cheap USB power bank capable of 5A current (https://amzn.eu/d/jdfMPtF) + a cheap USB-C cable + a MyVolts USB-C to 2.5mm 5v to 9v Step Up adapter (https://myvolts.co.uk/product/84651/myVolts_USB-C_PD_Step_Up_Tip_9V_c-ve_2.1mm_2.5mm) to power the Stomp instead. Works great, though it has to be plugged in to each other in a specific order.

The Step up adapter has to be connected to the power bank first, which lets it negotiate the voltage/amperage, and THEN plus it into the Stomp. It’s a clever wee adapter. 

It definitely did in a rehearsal space, and it wasn’t straining at all. I took it out busking with just the guitarist last weekend and we decided to try plugging him in to it too (he brought his Bose S1 Pro Plus). It coped fine with both us at the same time, and when we tried him solo, it absolutely beasted the Bose for volume, and the Bose was pretty loud…

My drummer is buying a compact kit for busking. I anticipate zero problems

On 24/03/2024 at 22:27, Paddy777 said:

Dimarzio Ultra Jazz are the highest output jazz pickups I’ve had - fantastic clarity and low end too 

This. I've got one going spare you can have too, if you want. I think they're around £90 new, but you can have mine for a lot less - just PM me if desired.

Pete

I definitely haven’t. Interested to hear others experiences. I’m not exactly sure what all of what was posted means either, but I assume that someone with better knowledge can translate. 

Howdy all

My current band is getting out a bit more, and our guitarist wants to start busking. Fair enough.

He has plumped for a Bose S1 Pro Plus which sounded great with his pedalboard. I was astonished that it could actually do not too bad a job on bass when I plugged into it. Battery powered as well, loud enough, and actually had some first harmonic bassiness going on with it. Not much happening below 65 Hz, but still, great sound considering it's being run on batteries!

I did my own research to pick up my own little battery operated bit of fun to match. I found a bunch of different solutions for bass, all of which have compromises somewhere, and I plumped for a secondhand Everse EV8 (£400) as my balancing point. It's tiny and has an 8" woofer with a decent sounding compression driver. https://products.electrovoice.com/na/en/everse-8/

It has an F3 of 60Hz, though the graph shows it drops off pretty steeply after that. (Of course it's meant to be crossed over to a sub for most use cases.)

After some tinkering, I've set it up with the 'Live' EQ setting so I don't get the huge hump at 80Hz, I've EQ'd it a bit to get rid of the dip at 1.2kHz as best as I can, and I've ruthlessly HPF'd it using the Stomp at about 60Hz as well to maximise my useful output.

I am astonished at how loud it is, and very portable at 17 lbs. It sounds really good. It's really quite liberating to not have to worry about power for a cab, and it will power my Helix Stomp too.

Note it's not necessary to use the Helix as a preamp - the output from even my passive basses is good enough to give good volume - but it's nice to be able to run effects without plugging into the wall as well.  

I took it out to a full rehearsal with drums/guitarist/me and it held up well, and after 2 hours was down by 1/3rd of battery power. What a joy. I plugged the guitarist in at the same time as me and the cab held up well to both of us playing through it. Fab.

I'll try some busking this weekend or next with my guitarist and see how we do. My drummer might buy a cajon and we could probably mic him into the cab too, if we wanted. 

It's not got the same depth as my LFSYS Silverstone has - @stevie is still my favourite cab builder - but rather than having to get a Jackery battery power supply and cart it about with my B-Amp and cab, which would probably need a trolley and mean I was carting around 40-50 lbs of amplification gear, I can carry the EV8 in one hand and my bass/helix/other bits of kit in my gig bag on my back. 

I had no idea battery powered stuff had come so far until I had to look into it recently. 

Pete

Very cool indeed. No idea what they’ll sound like, but knowing Nordstrand, they’ll sound great. 

Nearly the spitting image of my own Celinder. Wonderful basses. GLWTS!

Thanks @three, really appreciate your positive comments. It’s been a lot more work than I expected…but worthwhile. 

Very cool @ead. I like that a lot. Series will be big and beefy on that as well, I bet…

9 minutes ago, MrDinsdale said:

@funkle What’s the output of the Turner Pickups with Lusithand pre? Are they pretty hot?

Yep, the Lusithand Double NFP Special with the newest ‘English voicing’ MC4X with the pickup output trims all the way up on the board is in fact louder than the Wal. Which is pretty impressive. 

 Nooo ped, don’t do it! lol. 
 

1 hour ago, Aidan63 said:

So what do you think Pete, would a Yamaha 434 make a pretty decent Walish base for conversion, Alder body rather than mahogany with 6 bolt laminate neck with rosewood board , though body end bridge stringing, put the neck pickup in the existing P position, bridge in the J and toward the bridge, would need another knob and maybe extend the control cavity and make a new pickguard to suit, I have one here not being played 😈 🙃

I bet it would work very well. But you’ll need to get the pickups in Wal Mark 1 or 2 positions IMO. No-one seems to consider the Mark 3 positions as ‘classic’. 
 

Link to the post on pickup positions -

27 minutes ago, LukeFRC said:

I’m pretty sure there were measurements somewhere in the last 30 pages!

I put them in the video as well. You just have to pause the screen at the right point, they’re not there for long…