cameltoe

Hello all,

For sale here is my Fret-King Perception LE.

Some of you may be familiar with the brand, designed by Trev Wilkinson who I think made his name designing guitar hardware and pickups.

This particular model is a great Jazz/Precision hybrid- offering up a Jazz-shaped body (American Alder) with a Precision-profile neck (Canadian Hard-Rock maple) and a P/J pickup combo.

The neck has a natural feeling finish, and as such is very smooth to play.

The action is set up beautifully, nice and low with no fret noise at all.

This bass is in brand new condition. I only recently purchased it as 'Brand New' and since then have only used it at 4 or 5 rehersals. The protective wrap of the scratchplate is even still there.

Comes with a branded deluxe, fleece lined gigbag, as well as the original guarantee and booklet.

Here's some info on the bass at the Fret King website: [url="http://www.fret-king.com/perception4iw_spec.html"]Fret King Perception[/url]

I'm a big Fender Precision fan, and I love the way this bass sounds. Roll off the Jazz pickup and you get classic Precision. Roll off the Precision pickup and you get a funky, twangy tone. However, where it sounds best is with both pickups on full. The Precision/Jazz pickups together give a great tone that still sounds punchy like a good Precision should, but with more richness and clarity to the tone.

I sometimes find with my Precision it can sound a bit too dark and muddy, and hence I often fiddle with my EQ to try and get a clear but punchy sound. This bass gives me the sound I want right out the box, and I hardly have to touch my EQ.

All in all a very well made instrument, for a bargain price.

The RRP on this is [b][size=3]£599[/size][/b]

I will let this go for just [b][size=3]£300[/size][/b] postage included.

As in the title, I will be in London this weekend so anyone that wants to try out the bass is welcome to. Otherwise I'm based in St. Austell, Cornwall.

I will accept trades plus cash either way for the right bass, and am particularly interested in the following:

Classic Vibe series Precision
MIM Standard Precision, Highway One
Jaguar Bass
G&L tribute L2000
Musicman Stingray (would have to be a cheapie), SUB or Sterling Ray34
(plus or minus any cash adjustments)

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Thanks,

The Camel's Toe

Great sounding amp. I have the big brother, the VX3500 combo, essentially the HA3500 head with a 4x10 cab.

Bump for a great gigging amp.

Wrong section! This is 'basses for sale'!

You're not keeping? Arrghh! Wrongness!

Very nice black/brown vintageness there.....!

Who are Mono anyway? sounds like a bargain.

Marvels are what I use, you need to keep tightening them before each gig though, the strap attachment does come loose. A thread lock such as Loctite might solve this though.

I couldn't bring myself to pay $3650 for that.

I did want that one..... but I don't think it'll go with the colour of my basses

[quote name='discreet' post='817691' date='Apr 24 2010, 11:19 PM']This looks a bit more like it... wider, and much cheaper:

[url="http://minotaur.gr/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=28&products_id=51"]Minotaur Bass Strap[/url]

Or maybe just get a Comfort Strapp... seems popular!

EDIT: Oop. Sorry cameltoe -- your thread!! [/quote]

Cheers, I went for a minotaur!

Good old plain black. But racking up 11cm wide is pretty impressive, and £35 all in isn't that bad. As much as the comfort strapps were recommended, and I was tempted to go for substance over style, I just couldn't escape from the fact that they look a bit cack! Sorry to all comfort strapp owners, I'll eat my words when my minotaur strap eats it's way into my shoulder flesh during the first set.......

I really love these straps [url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/GEG25-DSL-Leather-2-5-Padded-Strap-Saddle-Brown-Beige_W0QQitemZ370367831974QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUK_Guitar_Accessories?hash=item563ba49fa6"]DSL[/url]

They've got loads of lovely looking padded straps, but only up to 2.5" wide. Doh!

Thanks to everyone for the advice.

I'm getting uncomfortable at gigs recently with my new bass. It's slightly neck heavy, and the bass itself is quite heavy, so I end up leaning a bit to compensate and get back ache. I could do with a nice wide one that can keep me comfortable, as well as reducing the neck dive. Price- anything up to £40 really, if it's a good 'un. Prefer a dark brown/tan or black colour leather really. No silly colours or patterns!

Cheers guys

[quote name='dannybuoy' post='813364' date='Apr 21 2010, 08:23 AM']I've got the Fender Sublime, you can get similar sounds out of the Bass Big Muff. I know you said no muffs, but you should try this one, it's much more low gain and vintage sounding, with bags of low end. In dry mode it blends in clean signal so doesn't take over your sound, although there is a problem of a volume boost in this mode, but it sounds so good that I might try modding it. The Fender has a built in blend to retain low end and note clarity, so maybe you should either look at getting a separate blender or checking out fuzz pedals with a blend built in. In which case check out the Wounded Paw Attack Goat and Wren & Cuff Pickle Pie B too!

Mammoth, Mastotron, Blowtorch etc, sound a bit too heavy and synthy perhaps for what you're after, Cameltoe.[/quote]

Yeah you're selling it- I wish I could afford it right now! It's still gonna be a bit large I reckon, but unless I can find anything else close sounding but smaller....

I do like the electronix crossdrive though

Oh Cock!

More GAS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

It's got to happen soon, either a classic vibe 50's P , or the sonic blue 60's. I don't really care anymore!

I haven't looked at the Mastotron, so cheers, i'll look it up.

I did look at the Blowtorch before and I think I remember it being a bit sharp, but I'll have another look.

cheers guys

It's definitely not a curse, so don't worry there.

Having a good ear is a gift, and has allowed you to get this far with limited knowledge, (if I interpreted your post correctly) which is not something many people could say.

I play by ear, but of course I understand my limitations when it comes to lack of theory. I'd love to read a couple chord charts and be able to throw together an awesome funky walking bass line on the spot. But I'm still learning here, (2 years) so I hope I can overcome my limitations.

Having said that, the fiddle player in our band is a theory geek. He can read music very well and knows enough scales to play pretty much anything. BUT he has no ear at all. Which means a lot of his playing is incredibly pitchy. Of course, he's just reading the notes/ playing from memory after learning the notes, so he hardly ever 'listens' to what he's playing, which means he never adjusts flat/sharp pitching, and it can happen time after time. He literally cannot hear it! As far as he's concerned his finger is in the right place, so he's playing it right.

If you WANT to learn to read, best do it! But don't question a 'good ear', it's a great thing to have and I bet many musicians who have studied and can read music wish they had your ability

I posted on here a while back about trying to find a really vintage sounding fuzz. Very creamy and thick without too much character in the fuzz, just allowing the sound of the bass through. The Fender Sub Lime was suggested and that's pretty much bang-on what I'm looking for, but it's just too DAMN BIG!

I'm not really interested in a Big Muff- I'm using my gutarists Russian muff at the moment, and have also used a regular muff, and I find they have a very distinct 'Muff' sound. A bit nasal for my liking, just a bit narrow in tone, and doesn't seem to let any of your regular tone through!

Nothing too wild- something really laid-back and chilled out, with plenty of low-end. I've looked at loads on Youtube and can't find anything I like as much as the Sub Lime.

[quote name='Grand Wazoo' post='811591' date='Apr 19 2010, 05:41 PM']Yeah mate and they are lovely too, a breeze to p,lay, and as for your question, It hangs perfectly, does not neck dive not even when playing sitting down, it balances well on your leg. Try one mate or if you are ever in London, get in touch.

here are my Squier beauties in all their splendor:

[size=4][b]50's Precision[/b][/size]


[size=4][b]60's Precision[/b][/size]


[size=4][b]60's Moo-Mooo Jazz[/b][/size]
[/quote]


Well I'm in London next month, as it happens.

That 50's P is just beautiful. Is it a Seymour Duncan in there?

I need to do some thinking really. I bought the Fret King Perception that was advertised on here a while back and it's an absolutley stunning bass, plays beatifully, but it's a bit too heavy for me, and it sits awkwardly on me too.

I'd love to trade it for one of those, second hand really, so as not to lose too much money.

I noticed there's one in the For Sale section for £200. Problem is I'd love to try it first.

[quote name='Grand Wazoo' post='810895' date='Apr 18 2010, 11:07 PM']I didn't mean to attack the Fender MIM but all the ones I have seen have had lousy neck pockets and paint jobs. In some cased the tuners were not even aligned properly on the back of the headstock, whereas all the CV's I have seen are perfectly manufactured and flawless in terms of constructions, even the wood used sound a lot better, more resonant and a heck of a lot lighter. Only problem with the CV's is the cheap wirings and pots £15 max will sort that out!!!.
Apart from that they are ACE and I really do believe they are a class above MIM but if all of you that forked out for an MIM want to keep convince yourseves you've done well, be my guest, I'd rather buy sensibly than blindly just because it says Fender as opposed to Squire.

Rant over [/quote]


Ahhh you've got a CV 50's Precision haven't you?

I need this bass.

What's it like when stood up with a strap? Does it balance well? No dreaded neck dive?

From my last two basses (not precisions) I've had real comfort issues due to poor balance, neck dive, weight etc. A regular precision fits me like a glove, I could go round wearing one all day. I'm hoping it'll be the case with these.

[quote name='Grand Wazoo' post='810895' date='Apr 18 2010, 11:07 PM']I didn't mean to attack the Fender MIM but all the ones I have seen have had lousy neck pockets and paint jobs. In some cased the tuners were not even aligned properly on the back of the headstock, whereas all the CV's I have seen are perfectly manufactured and flawless in terms of constructions, even the wood used sound a lot better, more resonant and a heck of a lot lighter. Only problem with the CV's is the cheap wirings and pots £15 max will sort that out!!!.
Apart from that they are ACE and I really do believe they are a class above MIM but if all of you that forked out for an MIM want to keep convince yourseves you've done well, be my guest, I'd rather buy sensibly than blindly just because it says Fender as opposed to Squire.

Rant over [/quote]

Look, you are not helping my GAS for a CV squier at all!

The main difference I've found when i've tried the CV's is the neck doesn't feel as good. I love the way they look, and you're right, if the output is a bit weak it's nothing that a few quid won't sort out. They're lighter cos they're made of Basswood instead of Alder, which I guess is a personal preference thing. I'd prefer the lighter weight, but from the CV's I tried only last tuesday they don't seem to sound as good unplugged, which may be down to the wood.

I also tried a couple of 'standard' Squiers, (1 affinity, and one 'special' with the Jazz and P pickup) and the CV's are head and shoulders better than those.

Yes I'm arguing cos I own an Mexican Standard, but aside from the CV 60'S Jazz, (which was close) the others I tried didn't feel or play quite as well as my MIM. I say [i]quite[/i].

They are finished exceptionally well though, and I'd give you that over a Mexican standard.

I was in my music shop to find a suitable replacement for the Mexican Standard, and after trying a couple of MIM Classic 50's series precisions (which felt a good notch above a Mexican Standard, and I recommend you try at some point) I put a deposit down on a Road Worn precision, (again, MIM) which felt absolutely amazing, and unlike anything else in the shop. Absolutely blew both the Classic 50's out of the water.

I've got no problem with wearing a squier badge at all, and it seems to be the first defence by any squier owners as to why we're not all playing them. I simply chose the bass that felt best in my hands, and most comfortable to play. I HATED the concept of the Road Worn series, and was determined not to buy that bass. It was also in Fiesta Red, which had turned a nice shade of Salmon Pink with all the 'Ageing'! But I bought what I thought was the best I had tried in quite some time, and not 'blindly' at all.

Having said all that, I'm absolutely gagging for the Squier CV 50's precision, and will probably get one at some point.

We're not the ones who said it did matter, it was you!



I only the other week tried several CV precision and Jazzes, and yes, they do vary a bit. A couple felt like nothing special, but the olympic white 60's jazz felt awesome.

[quote name='bh2' post='808914' date='Apr 16 2010, 09:18 PM']Hmmm... not so sure about that one.[/quote]

Me neither. They are very good, and I've tried several alongside Mexican Standards and other MIM gear, but for me the Mexican's did have a bit extra about them.

Bast**d

butterscotch all day long! How can you not?

How'd you find the D'addario Chromes?

I've been meaning to do much more experimenting with strings, as I do like warmth of nickel but do find them a bit zingy from time to time.

Definitely more growl to your sound than with roundwounds. What's the tension like on them compared to roundwounds?

Ah Cock! You've brought the GAS back!

That's it- I've got to get one of those Classic Vibes!
Either that or the 51 reissue- although you don't hear nearly as many good things about them as you do the CV.

You should try the Road Worn series (see my other thread)

After GASSING for a classic '50's in Honey Blonde, and getting my local music shop to hold one back (plus a Sunburst one) I ended up going for the more expensive Road Worn in faded Fiesta Read (salmon pink!) I didn't like the colour, I didn't like the whole fake relic'd thing, but it was head and shoulders above both the classic 50's to play and feel.

I have a MIM standard, but the classic 50's felt significantly better than that, and really, at £499, not much more expensive.

I can't praise the Road Worn enough though, but it is more expensive.

I was obsessed with getting one of those Classic Vibe '50's precisions a while back- I love the look of them! Never, ever heard anything but good things about them either. Plus it's got the tele headstock and a maple fretboard!

Lucky boy!