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[quote name='waynepunkdude' post='839394' date='May 16 2010, 11:34 PM']You have just described the finest looking neck you can get, no neck finer than maple with black blocks and binding.[/quote]


Oh absolutely..... if done well. But this did look like it had just been drawn on with felt tip.

Cornwall!!!

So no

[quote name='Grand Wazoo' post='839252' date='May 16 2010, 09:04 PM']I have no experience with the lollar, but you must bear this in mind, which is the advice I have received from experts on the subject: the original 50's precision is made of ash this one is made of basswood, a vintage pickup will work better with ash but not with basswood, so the antiquity and the lollar might be the perfect match for those but not the Squier CV, and money was not an issue in my case when my friend say to me, go for the quarter pound which is what this bass need to shine and cut through. He was right, I didn't take his word for it and tried the antiquity first and felt very thin, after I put the quarter pound I regretted buying the antiquity and I was lucky to be able to sell it on ebay for a fiver less.[/quote]

I will explore all options and considering you have the very bass I'm referring too I do take your recommendation in high regard. Plus they are fairly well priced.

[quote name='Ou7shined' post='839242' date='May 16 2010, 08:52 PM']Definitely the Lollar then. The SD's are ok but are kind of flat and definitely more modern sounding than the Lollar.
I played my Shuker (with Lollar) at the Moffat bash and guys were stunned by it's powerful and clear P tone - and this is from guys with an ear for significantly more complex and hi-fi sounding basses.
This might sound odd seeing as these are more often than not replace by SD's but a close second for me was the original Fender '51 RI pup. It is way louder and a bit more clankier than the SD's but that's easily be tamed with a decent set of flats - you can pick up a good one for under £30 - a bad one could be full of sweat or had the top piece ripped off by an inexperienced thumb or even be afflicted by the dreaded quiet E pole syndrome.[/quote]


I'm strictly nickel roundwounds....!

I've heard some great, great things about the SD quarter pounders, but I really don't want a 'Flat' tone. I prefer the sound of new strings, for instance, than old strings.

What do you mean by 'Modern' anyway? A Hi-Fi sound ? I usually shy away from anything too clean sounding. I'm not the cleanest player and I love the Black Keys.......

[quote name='Clarky' post='839228' date='May 16 2010, 08:39 PM']£65 is already a £30 saving on the German company - good spot![/quote]

Within Seymour Duncan territory so if they are as good as you guys have been saying it's a no-brainer. Guess I really need to hear both for myself, but that's going to be hard. I'll have to trust whatever reviews I can find.

Even then I'm not going to really know til I've got the whole band behind me.

[quote name='daz' post='839219' date='May 16 2010, 08:36 PM']I think this is a UK site for Lollar pups. Very expensive, I'd love to hear a test and see if they're worth it.
[url="http://guitar-xperience.com/onlinestore/index.php?page=shop.browse&category_id=158&option=com_virtuemart&Itemid=38"]charlie chandlers guitar xperience[/url][/quote]


£64.99 for the Pickup these guys have been recommending? Miles cheaper than they've been suggesting- I take it it's the same one?

[quote name='Clarky' post='839206' date='May 16 2010, 08:29 PM']There is one German supplier, station music (sells for Euro 99, so about £90) - here's the link [url="http://www.station-music.de/gitarre/gitarre_amps/lollar_pu.html"]http://www.station-music.de/gitarre/gitarr.../lollar_pu.html[/url][/quote]


Cheers, I'll look into it at least. The SD QP is almost half the price though, so I'll do my research. Shame the £ is so crap at the moment.

[quote name='Ou7shined' post='839202' date='May 16 2010, 08:27 PM']It all depends upon what sound you are after but without doubt the best pup on the planet for this kind of bass is a Lollar - believe me I have tried a few different makes. You can't buy them new over here, you have to get them sent over fron the States.[/quote]

I guess a great amount of thump but with a bit more tone than a standard Precision. I loved the sound of the Fret King, which had a P/J pickup combo. All the punch of a Precision but with a bit more warmth and a bit more tone clarity.

[quote name='EssentialTension' post='839197' date='May 16 2010, 08:22 PM']... the heel of the palm sat on the pickup cover, the fingers pulled against the tugbar (as it was known), and you plucked the strings with your thumb - that was the plan. It stayed that way until the early 1970s. Classic Vibes and other reissues usually recreate how it used to be.[/quote]

That makes sense!

Well I still need a Thumb anchor as the single coil has no casing around the sides for my thumb to rest on. I'm OK for the A D G strings as I use the string above as an anchor, but for the E string I usually use the Pickup as an anchor.

That wiring kit will be going in as well!

[quote name='Grand Wazoo' post='839190' date='May 16 2010, 08:13 PM']1) Pickups: Seymour Duncan Quarter Pound I believe is the best match for this bass [url="http://www.seymourduncan.com/products/basslines/progressive-1/scpb3_quarterpo/"]http://www.seymourduncan.com/products/bass...cpb3_quarterpo/[/url]





2) Wirings & Pots: change the Volume and Tone pots for a set of original Fender CST 250 K and high quality Fender waxed cloth covered wiring together with the correct Sprague capacitor and a Switchcraft input jack all of which are available as a complete kit for £14.99 on this link: [url="http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/WIRING-KIT-FENDER-PRECISION-BASS-HIGH-QUALITY-/270578014080?cmd=ViewItem&pt=UK_Guitar_Accessories&hash=item3effb4d780"]http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/WIRING-KIT-FENDER-PR...=item3effb4d780[/url]






I've tried the other Seymour Duncan vintage pickup but the Quarter Pound gave it the necessary presence and punch that I was looking for whereas the other one felt thin in comparison.[/quote]


Marvellous advice as always Grand Wazoo!

I told you I'd get one didn't I?

I have spotted a Seymour Duncan Antiquity pickup for the single coil Precision in the For Sale section. These are around £75 new, wondered if that would be a good match? I don't know too much about them though, the only thing I can find is that they are a sort-of reissue of the original Telebass pickup, a sort of 'original vintage' so to speak.

I've been trying to sell my Fret King bass on here for the last couple weeks to fund another bass. As good as the Fret King was, I couldn't get on with it. On a trip to London this weekend I headed to The Gallery to see if I could trade it. After trying a load of basses and hanging out in the shop for about 2 hours, I narrowed it down to just a few basses including a CV '50's Precision and a Vintage Modified Jazz.

The Jazz was staggeringly heavy compared to the CV, and after having balance and comfort issues with the fret king this was a major drawback to me. It sounded GREAT with those duncan pickups, but I easily prefer the sound of a Precision over a Jazz, so that didn't really help me. Another thing that put me off were the block inlays on the neck. These seem to have been drawn on in felt tip, as well as two lines running the length of the neck on the top and bottom respectively. Wasn't a great job, and the unfinished neck felt just that, unfinished. It should have been much smoother to the touch and didn't look half as good as the quality of wood on the CV. The body looked well finished though, and the grain of wood looked attractive through the laquer.

The action was very well set up on the VM Jazz, and for a while this put me off. Although the 'made in Indonesia' tag on the back of the headstock didn't sit as comfy with me as the 'crafted in China' on the back of the CV headstock!

I also tried a Cort (very nice) a SoundGear by Ibanez, a G&L L2000, and a Fernandes musicman copy.

The Cort and the Ibanez were great but both had very narrow necks. Ibanez had HUGE gaps around the neck pocket. I'm not sure of the model, but it had Bartollini's and Hipshot tuners with a natural finish.

The Cort looked and sounded great, very well put together with MightyMite Pickups, block inlay neck, and matching headstock. But the neck was too narrow for me.

The G&L had an absolute baseball bat of a neck! Seemed identical to the Fret King I just traded in, and considering they have the exact same headstock I wonder if there's been some buying up of old G&L parts by the people who make Fret Kings? Also quite heavy, and actually felt so much like my fret king I didn't pursue it further. An awesome feeling of quality from the instrument though, it really stood out amongst the rest. It had a really low, lazy action with no fret noise, but I could see myself having the same comfort issues with this one. The amount of switches was putting me off too. I don't want to be faffing around with my sound.

Fernandes sounded great, very growly and musicman like, but not for me. I wasn't impressed by the quality of the neck wood either.

So, enter the CV Precision. I hadn't tried a 50's CV Precision before and the first thing I noticed was how light it was. The quality and finish of the neck was also very impressive, and although the action could have been better, it sat very comfy on me and the neck felt great to play. The fit around the neck pocket was the best of all the basses I had tried that day, and considering some of them were £600, this was good news. Had a great sound, if not as tight and punchy as some of the basses I had tried that day (G&L and Ibanez especially) it did have a lovely tone to it, and considering it was half the price AND I would change the p'up anyway, this wasn't a huge concern.

In the end, it felt the only instrument that I tried that day that could match the G&L in terms of quality. It feels very well put together with a lot of attention paid to it. I also had lurking in the back of my mind that I have a Road Worn Precision on the way soon, and this not only felt a very similar weight, it also felt like the same profile neck. Considering I may have to swap them around at times, it felt like a good move to go for a similar playing bass with a similar neck profile. If I had to suddenly switch to an insanely narrow neck like the Ibanez had, it might cause me a bit of grief.

I've always loved the look of the '50's CV Precision, and I made sure I wasn't just convincing myself to go for it without giving the others a chance. In the end, considering as well the price, it was a no-brainer for me. I'm sure Jazz bass fans or guys who prefer narrower necks could have got on very well with the Cort or the Ibanez, but these were also much more expensive.

I was also impressed by the quality of the CV in a direct comparison to the Vintage Modified Jazz. I'm sure the VMJ basses have their fans, but for me the CV felt miles ahead in terms of quality. Yes, the CV's may be made from much cheaper materials than the other basses I tried that day, but they've been put together and finished so well it's no wonder people have been raving about them!

Now I just need to do two things- Change the pickup (Suggestions welcome! Although I see Wizard don't do a single coil Precision p'up) and move the thumb rest from underneath the strings, to above the pickup as I badly need a thumb anchor. (why oh why do they put them underneath the strings? what's the point?)

Anyway, no pics no bass, so here you go:

Hello.

Due to the impending arrival of a Road Worn Precision, it's a shame I have to put up for sale my trusted MIM Standard Precision that has served me very well over the past two years.

Bought brand new from Craigs Music in Bodmin in early 2008, this is a 2006 model as can be seen from the diamond badge at the back of the headstock.

Finished in black, I tried to make it a bit more interesting than the usual black/white combination by covering the pickguard in graphite grey vinyl. This can easily be removed if desired.

I fitted Marvel straplocks, and as such I'll include those in the sale along with a grey/black fender strap.

I also fitted an extra string tree for the A string, as without these the A string rides quite high between the nut and tuner- most people either live with this or use loads of wraps around the tuner peg to keep the angle down. I just fitted an extra string tree.

Apart from that it's standard.

People say you can get good and bad Fenders. As far as I'm concerned this is a 'good one'. Neck pocket is extremely tight- forget the credit card test, this passes the paper test. Pickup has always been quite powerful compared to the other basses I have used, and I've never felt the need to change it. It's currently set up very nice and plays very well.

It does have a few small dinks, one very small one on the top of the neck, and two on the body. I've tried to photo these as best as I can. Nothing Major.

Recently strung with D'Addario XL nickels, plenty of life left, actually still need to calm down a bit.

I will include a worn, but still functional and well padded TGI gig bag.

Price is a firm [b][size=3]£250[/size], [/b]plus P&P or collect from St Austell, Cornwall.

Sorry no trades.


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[quote name='Prime_BASS' post='835790' date='May 12 2010, 11:31 PM']Well since I changed the description a lit and the thread title I got a lit of interest, and acdeal is now done and I'm looking forward to a jack cassady bass.[/quote]


Jammy bastard

[quote name='spinynorman' post='835526' date='May 12 2010, 06:19 PM']A lot of people seem to see a need to justify their reasons for selling a bass. So you get a large part of the ad saying things like: "It's a great bass, but just not for me, I prefer an xyz because ...". Why do that? Most people on here have sold one or more basses at some time, we know the score, people sell for all sorts of perfectly valid reasons. We expect sellers to describe the bass they have for sale honestly, and if they don't, they'll soon get rumbled. Some ads are a better sell for the bass they're keeping that the one they're trying to move on.[/quote]


Point taken


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[quote name='OldGit' post='835390' date='May 12 2010, 03:59 PM']Ah but this isn't a traditional Fender.
I have no problems selling the occasional Japanese P and J bass I get in.
Traditional plus quality will always win out over "the hit of 1987!" as ony a small percentage of people will take a risk on a lesser known instrument.



Just how heavy [i]is [/i]this bass?
Maybe you need to make your strap longer or shorter or stand better...[/quote]

Not that heavy, I just don't feel all that comfortable with it on.

I'm sure someone else would love it and have no problem with it.

I've messed around with the strap loads btw.

I'm interested in the combo

Dunno if you're still interested my guitar, but there could be a deal to be done.

Bumpzilla

I just want a bass that doesn't give me a bit of back ache.

Other wise I'd keep it in a shot, it does everything I need it to do and more.

Someone out there must get on with Jazz basses and fancy something different?

Very nice basses.

I got my local music shop to order a couple in, and was impressed, felt much nicer to play than my mexican standard P and the neck felt much more natural to me.

I ended up buying a Road Worn that I'd played a few times before, but that's a different story.

I emailed Fender customer services just the other week to find out what pickups they used in the Road Worn series and was told they use the American Standard pickups in both the Classic '50's series and the 50's Road Worn series, so it's weird that so many people are complaining about weak pickups.

[quote name='luckman67' post='834642' date='May 11 2010, 08:11 PM']I really like my SUB & the fact that not only did I get it for a silly price,but it's made at the same factory using the same pickup & active 2 band eq as the Classic Stingray 4H.[/quote]

Arrgh don't come on here rubbing it in again ya jammy sod

To think of all the things I've wasted £99 on....

Don't worry dude I'm having the same trouble trading mine [url="http://basschat.co.uk/index.php?showtopic=86299"]Click[/url]

The irony is, when I bought it from tom1946 only a couple months ago, loads of people seemed to be interested in it, and it was £60 more expensive then!

I've literally used it 4 or 5 times, realised it's not for me, and I can't give it away.

I mean, it's a seriously quality bit of kit and it's basically brand new. Sounds good, plays AMAZING, and I'm asking for half the RRP. I've even approached people about trades for well used Classic Vibe squiers (£250-ish RRP?) and no one is biting.

It's a great guitar, it's absolutely leagues ahead of my Mexican Precision in terms of quality and to play, but I've always found Jazz basses feel slightly off-centered when I'm wearing them, and as such I lean to the side a bit to compensate and end up getting mild back ache.

I need to get my MIM precision to my local shop where it's to be traded in against my birthday present, a fiesta red RW precision, but I can't really do that as I now need the MIM for rehearsals and gigs. I could put up with using the Fret King, it doesn't cause me agony just a bit of discomfort, but now I've made up my mind to move it on I'd rather not risk damaging it and losing even more money on it. £300 is too cheap as it is.

I'm off to London this weekend and I'm gonna try and trade it in at The Gallery while I'm there, but I can imagine they'll probably ask me to put money in for anything worth more than £250

It sounds like you have too much relief in the neck, which will cause your action to be high no matter how low you adjust the bridge saddles. There should be a slight bow, but it shouldn't be that easy to notice unless you're looking down the sight of the neck.

As it says on the fender website, a good idea is to hold the E string down at the 1st fret and the very last fret, and check the size of the gap between the bottom of the string and the top of the 8th fret.

The idea here is that the string makes a straight line, so you can tell how much 'relief' (i.e bow) is in the neck.

This part can vary from bass to bass and player to player, but most people like to see a gap about the thickness of a credit card. If the gap is looking a lot bigger than that, the truss rod needs to be tightened a little. If the strings are flat against the 8th fret, your truss rod needs loosening a little to allow more relief.

I would definitely leave this to a specialist if you're not sure what you're doing. Other things, such as the tilt angle of the neck, may also need adjusting, and this is a whole different ball game.

Once all that is set up right, you can then mess around with the bridge to get your action comfy. This is easy enough to do yourself.

I'm fed up of this post now.

I'm GASSING for a SUB!

Someone let me trade my Fret King for one! I'm getting a GAS headache

low mids- good
high mids- rubbery