Woodwind

On 08/04/2021 at 14:14, SumOne said:

That's a lot of Freezing and looping!

I like the tipex on the EHX pedals move - I've done the same in the past and will do the same on the switchblade pro I just got (or I'll keep raiding my kids stickers collection!), always seems a bit of a design flaw to create pedal controls with tiny dull thin lines on them that are difficult to see from at least 6 foot away in a dark venue. 

The tippex is vital!

I was doing a lot of shows where my stage lighting was a dark red wash which completely knocks back the contrast of things on stage so I needed a big bold line to see the position of the knobs. Fun Stickers would have been better, but it was applied in an emergency in a soundcheck and has remained ever since 😂

I'm not a bassist per se anymore although I play big bass frequencies as well as lots of high frequencies from a woodwind instrument in contemporary solo chamber music settings.

I layer chords with the two freeze pedals and use the looper in a similar fashion

6 hours ago, Dood said:

I played a fairly large outdoor gig before lockdown where the hired "professional" PA company "mic'd" my cabinet. With an SM57, a good 15" away from the cabinet edge, off axis. I wished that they had DI'd, especially as I had clearly explained why the DI would be a better option. I forget the name of the PA company, maybe that's not a bad thing. Don't even get me started on their "IEM" mixes lol..

 the irony.

When I was early in my bass playing career I would beg sound engineers to mic my amplifier.

I just knew that the sound of my marshall B65 combo being driven to an inch of its life to keep up with a drummer trying to compete with a guitarist with no perception of volume produced the most amazing tone (still 20 years later it's a tone I would have any day of the week). The di sound was lifeless in comparison.

Practicing for some shows planned later this year (fingers crossed they materialise) so thought I'd put my board up.

Input from my instrument into:

Mantic Hulk set for dry through - dedicated sub out goes to separate mixer channel.

Loop station

Freeze 1

Freeze 2 

Pitchfork

Obscura Delay

Skysurfer reverb (set very low, just gives an extra bit of bloom on dry stages).

Eventually I'll add an isolated power supply which will go between the Hulk and reverb pedal.

Thanks for posting this @Bart Funk Bass Beasties had a lot of good bass lines and great bass sounds.

rip MCA

Great to see people getting bookings!

It is intriguing what shows are being planned and what aren't. Absolutely no promoter I work with is planning anything.

On 20/03/2021 at 09:04, pantherairsoft said:

It’s been a loooooooooooong time since I posted a board here ...

...powered by a Cioks DC7.

 

Good to see your latest set up 😎

I wasn't aware of the Cioks range.

That DC7 looks like an incredibly versatile power supply.

I need to investigate further.

11 minutes ago, taha_never said:

Thank you Woodwind.

3-4 hours use of public transport per day, in Tehran! loud and frightening traffic on the way to office. excessive use of horn and wild bikers everywhere. savage people who are unable to do a small task without making lots of unnecessary noise. I'm also HSP (highly sensitive) so you can imagine. time to get my ears checked i think 😣

Yup I can completely relate to this.

I've had to resort to wearing ear plugs when near traffic if I'll be near a main road for prolonged periods.

All the best

22 hours ago, taha_never said:

oh thanks everyone for shedding a light on this. never expected it to be a serious factor. sounds right as i just start playing when i get home after about 10-12 hrs of work outside and my ears are already tired and when the clarity goes away it never comes back no matter what.
thanks again

Please be careful Taha_Never!

What is the work you're doing outside?

I do a lot of work outside and just the increased high end content in the sound of london traffic on wet roads can irritate my hearing.

Sustained fatigue will eventually lead to permanent hearing loss.

19 hours ago, Ricky Rioli said:

Thing is, this is a terribly built building - the floors transmit so much sound. At the moment I'm listening to everything so quietly, scared that I've driving my very nice downstairs neighbour berserk. I can feel the drums in my feet coming through the floor as much as I'm hearing them. So the sound is pretty pathetic as it is. Pathetic in a different way, minus the guilt will be good. A few months ago I was listening mostly to Mozart string quartets and that was one thing. Last month its been nothing but Metallica and Megadeth and I can hear the fabric of the building singing along.

It won't be just the sound from stands going into your downstairs neighbours ceiling, but the whole floor resonating to the air moving from your speakers as well.

However in terms of isolating stands from resonanat floors adding mass is very useful: concrete paving slabs under the speaker stands is a first step, a sandwich of carpet between two slabs is better.

In terms of stopping the whole floor transmitting sound Your best bet, and not cheap alas, will be to put a layer of deadening rubber mat across the whole floor, ideally a layer of MDF over this and then your normal flooring.

Of course then your doors won't travel over this so you'll need to rehang them with half an inch shaved off the bottom etc etc.

I've had to do this in various flats I've lived in as well as helping friends with piano isolation for their flats and it works.

As an aside I'm not far off building a new isolating ceiling above my room as well to allow me to practice more than I currently do.

16 minutes ago, Doctor J said:

Here are some real world numbers just to show the bare bones of the actual situation. I don't know why people are so protective of this information, everybody should see how things really are. This is for some original music I wrote and released in 2019 and used CDbaby to publish to the streaming services which cost around $90 to do, if I recall correctly. This is all streaming activity since it was released right up to today. I hope to recoup by 2030.

Ok, 2040 😂

Granted, the style of music we play - slow stoner/doom type stuff where our shortest song is 7 minutes long - is exactly the opposite of how to play the streaming game. Ideally, songs should be as little over 30 seconds as possible to register a play, hence why so many albums now feature short songs, short skits and other filler. We're in it for the doom, not the money, though. I have had to go to 4 decimal places to make sure everything gets covered. Pay is counted in US$. To clarify, we're getting 1.05 cents per stream on SoundExchange, for example, and 1/3 of 1 cent on Spotify.

 

Is this complete plays/streams?

On a tangent - What I have found with my own bandcamp is I am selling less, but (complete) plays are increasing.

Essentially people are using it as a streaming service.

On 17/02/2021 at 13:12, andy67 said:

Small gig set up 👍

I'm a big fan of those TC pedals, but my eyes keep being drawn to your Cyrus (1 or 2?) Hifi amp and Systemdek8 record player.

That must be a great combination!

I digress

5 hours ago, EMG456 said:

 

However... anybody care to explain to me what microtonalities are being used in either the Planet Microjam or the BabaZula clips?

I didn't detect anything untowards...

No real messing with scale temperament there...

Or is there something going on that's too subtle for me?

I agree completely.

However I think it is subtle - the wind instrument in the Planet Jam thing seemed to have a different tuning system which the player was trying hard to bring into pitch with the fixed pitch instruments.

I have a Cd of baroque, renaissance and classical organ music recorded on historical organs tuned to their correct historical temperaments (meantone, Werckmeister etc etc)

Some of the sounds are SO alien or just completely "wrong" sounding, even though it's still 12 tone.

This video is quite a fun exploration of breaking the scale into higher numbers of microtones:

A friend of mine irreparably damaged his hearing seeing my bloody valentine in the 90's.

He then went to see them again a couple of years back(I think it was that recent) and despite ear plugs, worsened his tinnitus even more ☹️

Good Loud - Sunn0))) 2004

Bad Loud - Mogwai (as I mentioned in the gigs you left early thread). 2003

The Sunn gig was so loud it actually seemed quieter when I removed an ear plug as a test and my hearing was completely overloaded.

The bass frequencies were a physical entity. Absolutely brilliant.

There was a point to the volume

Mogwai on the other hand were pointlessly loud. It worked against the delicate moments of their music.

Everything I've seen at the Kentish Town Forum has been loud and sounded crap.

Mogwai, Norwich Waterfront circa 2003.

They were touring Happy Songs For Happy People.

Support came from the superb Kling Klang who stole the show for my friends and I.

Mogwai were proficient and obviously into it, but my God it was so, so loud.

My ear plugs weren't enough and after spending the first 4 songs moving further away from the stage I decided to leave.

Outside were many others who had done likewise.

48 minutes ago, tauzero said:

If I was in the market at the moment, I would have a look at https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Caline-P1-Isolated-Guitar-Effects-Power-Supply-Direct-From-Caline-in-China/164191630829 and https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mosky-ISO-Guitar-Effect-Pedal-Processsor-Power-Supply-Adapter-10-Isolated-Output/313203059775 and see if there's any more info available on the interwebs. In fact, regarding the latter one, see https://www.thegearpage.net/board/index.php?threads/mosky-iso-10-power-supply-any.2162617/ and you will see examples of fact (which say it's a Good Thing) and of speculation (which cast doubt on it being a Good Thing without any facts whatsoever).

Wow Brilliant, thank you so much for the heads up on these!!!

I'll investigate now.

I'm a bit new to all this so I really appreciate those pointers!

Cheers

Thomas

On 18/02/2021 at 16:53, tauzero said:

Mine has worked well....However, you can't get them now. There's a selection of allegedly isolated budget PSUs available with assorted different mixes of power output, mostly taking the form of half a dozen or so low current outputs (100mA or 300mA), one or two high current 9V outputs, a dedicated 12V and a dedicated 18V output.

I have just discovered they aren't available now.

Looking at some of those low current ones, but I'm not convinced and I worry the old adage "buy cheap buy twice" will very much apply to these forty quid jobbies, so I should maybe just go straight for a one spot cs6 etc etc

Bit of a thread resurrection, sorry.

Anyone who has been using a vitoos iso8 got any long term feedback?

Cheers

Thomas

6 minutes ago, itu said:

...so your watch has to be an IWC GST?

I bought a bag for my (wooden) foldable FX board from a sail maker. Robust zipper and good, water resistant textile.

That's a great solution for the bag Itu!

i'll be making mine, but the design will evolve so once I'm set I may commission something much better from a specialist.

As for the watch, I'm in a more modest price bracket 😀

55 minutes ago, stewblack said:

Sadly mine has come to a halt. Lost my workspace recently. 

Yours looks fascinating. 

Damn, I can totally empathise with the annoyance of losing a workspace.

My pedal board will be quite crude as I've already decided to change things as I got working.

I need something for a recording session in two weeks, so I'll get this done and refine it thereafter.

Any progress @stewblack ?

I Just found this thread as I'm making my own pedal board. The requirements being - as light and as strong as possible, while being very low profile and easy to travel with.

Today I'm carving out the Aluminium sheet to mount the pedals on which will then be sewn into a custom bag.

Eventually all the holes will be drilled to half an inch, but I want to use the better pillar drill in my other workshop which is currently closed.

I'm more used to working with silver, gold and titanium - making Jewellery and woodwind instrument repairs, but I can see more of this type of thing happening.

On 14/02/2021 at 11:19, Dapper Bandit said:

 

Khanate - oh my, not a band to listen to if you're not feeling secure in yourself. Unrelentingly grim, punishing stuff. When you're mad at the world, nothing else quite touches this.

 

I was lucky enough to catch Khanate at the Underworld around 2004/2005.

Absolutely Phenomenal gig, however I passed up the chances too see them when they toured again as, as you say, it can be punishing.

Yup, every time I pass through Soho, I can't believe how corporate and "developed" it has become. Souless.

22 minutes ago, SteveXFR said:

I've never been to desertfest but that and Hellfest are on the list for 2022.

Im still a relative beginner with bass. Any recommendations for essential doom covers to learn? I keep trying Om and Shrinebuider songs and then running out of talent because Im not Al Cisneros. 

work your way through Dope Smoker/Jerusalem.

I can't read tab so can't verify this at a glance, but there's a good load of stuff here to work through -

https://www.songsterr.com/a/wsa/sleep-dopesmoker-bass-tab-s79798t2

Just now, Jus Lukin said:

Nice one- folks still look at me funny when I say it out loud without the 'O' ( ))) )!

😀 it's only because I knew of the amplifier maker back then that I didn't add the Oh sound.

I was invited by friends who were big fans of the band, but theybwere worried I wouldn't enjoy it at all.

It was, without wanting to sound too dramatic, if not a life changing experience, a musical horizon changing experience.

One of the same friends also introduced me to the orchestral work of Arvo Pärt in the same year. Turns out Sunn and Part hse a lot of the same triad chords 😀