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[quote name='marcus bell' timestamp='1359395738' post='1954126']
Think it's a modulator
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Yes. The Modulator has two pickups.

[quote name='marcus bell' timestamp='1359391070' post='1954049']
I really want a two pickup one...
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A two pickup Marathon?

Here's mine!

[quote name='toneknob' timestamp='1359385054' post='1953875']
Try Cafe OTO in Shoreditch, This fella's on tomorrow night. Join in everyone!
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Saw him with the Art Ensemble Of Chicago many years ago. Amazing!

Boaters Inn, Kingston, Surrey. No improvised jazz but worth a visit.

[url="http://www.boaterslivemusic.com/"]http://www.boaterslivemusic.com/[/url]


+1 The Vortex.

[quote name='mbellishment' timestamp='1359313452' post='1952965']
Doesn't the whole objects being called 'she' come from the fact we have a Queen or something? I'm sure I heard once thats why ships are called she.
My basses are she's like.
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When we had a King ships were also called she.

[quote name='Bilbo' timestamp='1359308711' post='1952852']
It' all in the programming of his synths. JZ was renowned for messing with them. On Black Market, for instance, he has the keyboard programmed the wrong way around (high notes to the left, low to the right) etc
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Thanks. I'm just reading Brian Glasser's book on Zawinul again.

When i saw Weather Report (Victor Bailey period) i remember there was much synth strangeness even before the band appeared on stage with the stage in near total darkness and before Victor appeared out of a trunk!

Pedro Aznar.

Pat Metheny's percussionist in the 1990s is a superb bass player.

Firstly i don't read music so be gentle!

The song Forlorn on Night Passage has always intrigued me as the Synth sounds 'off key' (if that's the correct term) towards the end of the song. I realise that's the aim but how does Joe Zawinul get that sound? Is it pitch bending?

I saw Weather Report do this song live and it was a bit mind bending.

[quote name='BigRedX' timestamp='1359297885' post='1952626']
Be careful. The bottom has already fallen out of the analogue synth market once. You could barely give them away in the late 80s and early 90s. When someone perfects digital control of an analogue signal path at a sensible price, it may well collapse all over again. Plus a lot of them use electronic components and other parts that are no longer in production. Getting them into working condition (and they are worthless if not) can be extremely expensive.
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Spot on. I totally agree with that. Something that's flavour of the month this month may not be in fashion next month or year.

[quote name='Truckstop' timestamp='1359286940' post='1952414']
As for unfashionable, I think pointy basses and entry level Yamahas and Ibanez should do quite well.

Truckstop
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That's what brought me to my original post. I was talking to the guys at my local guitar shop yesterday and they reckon that pointy guitars are going to be future collectables.

[quote name='Grangur' timestamp='1359284148' post='1952374']
How about the Ibanez Ergodyne bass?
Its sound is good, solidly built, good bridge etc, 3 band Eq, 24 frets, good comfortable shaped body. They get a poor press cos careless folk wonder why you can't bounce them against the ceiling and stay intact. So in the future numbers will be limited.

Just wondering what others think?
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I like Ergodynes and they go for really reasonable prices..........at the moment. So may well be a good one for the future.

[quote name='RAY AGAINST THE MACHINE' timestamp='1359278018' post='1952284']
Cool. Where are you based. Now ?
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Just up the road in Hampton Hill

[quote name='RAY AGAINST THE MACHINE' timestamp='1359246857' post='1952193']
Sorry no. Ive been living in twickenham 10 years . As i dont drive, only been to surbiton a couple of times .) ( where's the blush icon?)
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You haven't missed a lot in sunny Surbiton. In fact i don't go there since Bell's music emporium closed some years ago.

P.S. I'm Twickers born and bred.

[quote name='RAY AGAINST THE MACHINE' timestamp='1359245985' post='1952189']
Oops! Just reread your op,) in which case i would say, Encore , Dean stylist, and hondo/columbus and satellite that you already mentioned,)
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No worries Ray. Do you remember Bells Musical Instruments in Surbiton? I gazed in that shop window many times in my youth!

[quote name='LukeFRC' timestamp='1359245256' post='1952179']
ah I get you now!

The moral of the story is that you should buy whatever is really unfashionable!
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There's no moral to it but yes, probably. Oh, and it's got to be cheap.

I forgot to say Luke that in the 70s if you'd have got on the bus with a Jedson you would have been the height of fashion!!!

[quote name='LukeFRC' timestamp='1359242696' post='1952157']
a fortune? how much do you think a jedson will go for? factor in inflation too and they arn't that good.
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If you read my quote you'll see i said that the shop was full of these sort of guitars and was a very big shop. I think that you're missing my point though. You couldn't give these guitars away a few years ago. Nobody wanted them until the world went retro crazy. That was obviously the time to buy then and NOT when they were new. That's my point.

Basses called she?

I was really disappointed when this bloke down the pub said he had a hareem in his loft. Turns out he had a load of Fenders up there..........

Chuck Rainey is a superb bass player. His website is really informative especially when he talks about his time with Steely Dan.

[quote name='bagsieblue' timestamp='1359235835' post='1952075']
SGC Nanyo Bass Collections?
Surely the penny will drop soon as to how undervalued and how great these basses are?
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Now you're talking. I saw an early 1990s 301 for 80 quid recently.

I bought one of the about 20 years ago brand new. Absolute gem!!!

a Travel Bass bump

[quote name='RAY AGAINST THE MACHINE' timestamp='1359224935' post='1951914']
I would say kubicki ex factor, Billy's Attitude in green. original steinbergers.
Pedals? Id say bass whammy, akai deep impact.
Amps? '80s gallien kruegers.Aguilar .
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Those are all definitely future collectables but also very collectable now. I was meaning things that were cheap and nobody really wanted. I remember seeing Mutron 111s going for 30-40 US Dollars in the early 90s. Also all those Jedson, Columbus, Satellite and Hondos that you couldn't wait to trade in for the real thing!

Don't know how long you've lived in Twickers Ray but i remember that Bells of Surbiton was full of those brands in the 70s and 80s. They'd be worth a fortune now!

[quote name='BigRedX' timestamp='1359204420' post='1951496']
This question comes up from time to time, and the real answer is no one can really tell.

However I think that there are 5 things that need to happen:

1. Will no longer be in production. The company that makes them might still be going but the collectable instruments will be ones that are no longer being made.

2. There was a reasonable number made (but not too many). Probably somewhere between 100 and 2000. I mustn't be so rare that the chances of finding one are next to impossible, but at the same time not so common that they show up on eBay every week.

3. There needs to be a fair degree of consistency from one example to the next. That rules out custom builders like Sei, where although they have a fixed range of body shapes within the ranges each instrument is so completely unique that the only common features are the shape and the name on the headstock.

4. The instruments have a unique feature (or set of features) that have not been copied elsewhere.

5. They are associated with at least one big-name player with a unique sound.

Good luck with your predictions.
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Of course no one can tell. That's the fun!

The reason i was thinking this was a conversation had at my local guitar shop. They reckon that pointy guitars are going to be collectable in the future and i just wondered what else?

[quote name='AndyTravis' timestamp='1359205994' post='1951527']
It's being brought in by Fender and that's the suggested retail price I assume inc Vat.
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Cheers!

I don't mean vintage Fenders, Gibsons, Musicmans etc but what basses that aren't a lot of money now are going to be collectable in say 10 years time?

Just a bit of fun but who'd have ever thought that those Japanese guitars and basses of the 60 s and 70s would ever sell for the money they do today.